RE: Cheating at Marathons

Maybe you went sub 10 at one of PMs races. I would buy that. The only reason she went anywhere near 10 is because she cut the course and people saw her!!!!!! Just like the runners at this years Badwater!!!! People see things and they are finally speaking out in ONE PLACE. This blog!!! Finally, all in one damn place!!! You can't make this stuff up. Seek help immediately.

Off topic, but this is not a blog

Good point, sorry. I am old school. I don't know what this is. Darn internet things. Lol. Chat forum? Anyhow, it's all conveniently packaged in one place.

OK - guessing sub 10 50 miler is Parvenah. She writes in broken English just like she talks. Some of the other recent posts appear to be the "threesome". PM even outs Denise as one . Angela are you another? Why don't you ladies chill and let us impartial observers sort this out? Sheesh.

Luv this blog wrote:

Maybe you went sub 10 at one of PMs races. I would buy that. The only reason she went anywhere near 10 is because she cut the course and people saw her!!!!!! Just like the runners at this years Badwater!!!! People see things and they are finally speaking out in ONE PLACE. This blog!!! Finally, all in one damn place!!! You can't make this stuff up. Seek help immediately.

This isn't a blog you upper class crazy twit. Take your lithium before your head explodes.

https://www.facebook.com/IRanMarathons/photos/a.458557417512591.108200.329229270445407/458557457512587/?type=3&theater

PM is looking fine here

PM. You dont run. You cheat.

This thread is in danger of coming off the rails. The main problem seems to be PM and her husband posting (likely while drunk) in asinine back-and-forths with PM's former girlfriends-turned-mortal-enemies.

The funny thing is, if PM's own husband is actually telling the truth, then there are like at least 6 people who once had a positive relationship with PM that now want to destroy her. I can understand someone having one nemesis, maybe even two, but when you start to have around a half dozen crazy adversaries I gotta think it says more about you than them.

And this is under the stipulation that everything PM's husband has posted about her is true, so it is basically the best case scenario for PM. Let that sink in a little, friends.

Look up the runners who supposedly do these bogus marathons organized by PM. How many real people doing a marathon for the first time will pay to do one with a handful of other runners and no support, no t-shirt, no nuthin'. None. But people have to be listed to make it seem like a real marathon.

Fact: 2013 at Jackson Hole Marathon. PM asks race director is she can start early. She is denied. She does it anyway and numerous runners catch her on course in advance if start. Her finish time if 5:19 should have been a 6:19 if you add in the early start. Official cut off is 6 hours. That would be a DNF thank you. You are not fast enough to break 6 hours. Fact.

Everyone loves sharing their favorite PM stories.

Wow Jackson this is great! Should be easy to confirm. At least 72 runners would have had to pass PM in the race. Pretty sure some of them (especially the leaders) would remember seeing a lone woman with a beef shirt on ahead of them a half hour or so into the race. Just contact 8 or 10 of these entrants. I am sure 1 or 2 would be willing to come on here to confirm. I am being serious. I am not one of the interested parties here.

Jackson Hole Walk wrote:

Fact: 2013 at Jackson Hole Marathon. PM asks race director is she can start early. She is denied. She does it anyway and numerous runners catch her on course in advance if start. Her finish time if 5:19 should have been a 6:19 if you add in the early start. Official cut off is 6 hours. That would be a DNF thank you. You are not fast enough to break 6 hours. Fact.

Everyone loves sharing their favorite PM stories.

I was at the sign in table when PM came to pick up her race number for the JH marathon. PM had run a marathon the day before and told us how tired she was and asked if she could start 1 hour early. PM was told no she could not start 1 hour early. Sad to say people find ways to cheat no matter what. it can not be proved she cheated so nothing can be done about this.I have been to races where people start at the 1ok with the pack of runners go through or stay at a porta john and wait to jump in the race. So many ways to cheat these days or to cut a course. Without 100% proof nothing can be done and the race directors can't DQ you.

This is not what Jackson Hole Walk said. This person said specifically that PM started an hour ahead of everyone despite being prohibited.. Nothing about hiding in johns or jumping in at the finish. Everyone that finished ahead of her would have to have passed her. Sorry, not familiar with the course. I guess if there are loops she could have cut the course. But then why call attention to yourself by trying to start early? Makes no sense. I am not a PM defender, just looking to think logically. If she started early despite being told not to, that, in my opinion, would be a stupid way to cheat.

It seems to be certain that Pervany Movada is a cheater. No doubt about it. The word is out now and a lot of people have picked up on it. Sigh. So what else is new? This is my last post (lawl).

easypeasy wrote:

This is not what Jackson Hole Walk said. This person said specifically that PM started an hour ahead of everyone despite being prohibited.. Nothing about hiding in johns or jumping in at the finish.

Thanks for the input 'Sam Kolter', just adds to the mounting valid evidence against PM by eye witnesses.

'easypeasy', I think he was referring to cheaters generally about the ways they find to cheat, not specifically about PM "hiding in johns or jumping in at the finish", and he did confirm what 'Jackson Walk Hole' said about her wanting "start 1 hour early".

It's hard for anyone to prove anything. Especially the RD and that puts them in a tough spot.

However, word informally gets out about people these days. The running community talks....in addition to running. Just seems like one questionable occurrence after another.

Btw. I ran the JH marathon that same year. It was awesome!!! Well run and absolutely beautiful!! Highly recommend it. Ok , did I just break protocol by adding something positive to this message board? (-:

I did not hear or say anything about her hiding in porta johns or whatever. Just that she started early.

Sam Kolter wrote:

I was at the sign in table when PM came to pick up her race number for the JH marathon. PM had run a marathon the day before and told us how tired she was and asked if she could start 1 hour early. PM was told no she could not start 1 hour early. Sad to say people find ways to cheat no matter what. it can not be proved she cheated so nothing can be done about this.I have been to races where people start at the 1ok with the pack of runners go through or stay at a porta john and wait to jump in the race. So many ways to cheat these days or to cut a course. Without 100% proof nothing can be done and the race directors can't DQ you.

How many people were at packet pick up when she was there?

Maybe we can contact them.