You've already asked me a few times. My answer to "why" is always "belief" and "hope".
I don't see the link between "busts" and "works". WADA does not require a substance to "work", or proven to "work" to be a banned substance (or method).
There are so many busts and so many Kenyan busts, because there are many tests on distance runners, with most of those tests on Kenyans, and because "belief" is widespread and deep and goes all the way to the top.
The way to measure "works" and "effective" is not by counting busts, but by comparing two performances, one with blood-doping, and one without, with all other things being equal.
If so many Kenyans dope without the confirmation of results and yet still risking a ban you are effectively saying they are the dumbest athletes on the planet. If only they heeded you and took the advice of a non elite who has never tried it.
What I say and what you effectively understand are often worlds apart. My world is Earth. You just want to build the next strawman.
But your dumb interpretation effectively tells me your biggest fear is being seen as the dumbest person on the planet. That's why my words hurt you so much.
Back here on planet Earth:
Kenyans are not the only athletes in the world doping. Someone told me as much as 80% of athletes world-wide.
Many of the poorer no-name lesser athletes may rationalize it as their best option, with nothing to lose. Many may be forced to dope, either directly or indirectly, being exploited by foreign management as a necessary condition for funding and travel.
"jacksprat" specifically asked about EPO. Of the Kenyan athletes who are "busted" only a small minority of busts are for EPO or ABP. Most are for steroids or other exotic substances. These "work" at all altitudes.
If not me and my informed opinions based on decades of performance history, maybe they should heed the words of a lifelong experienced coach with a proven capability of producing world class performance for Kenyans and Europeans alike.
If so many Kenyans dope without the confirmation of results and yet still risking a ban you are effectively saying they are the dumbest athletes on the planet. If only they heeded you and took the advice of a non elite who has never tried it.
What I say and what you effectively understand are often worlds apart. My world is Earth. You just want to build the next strawman.
But your dumb interpretation effectively tells me your biggest fear is being seen as the dumbest person on the planet. That's why my words hurt you so much.
Back here on planet Earth:
Kenyans are not the only athletes in the world doping. Someone told me as much as 80% of athletes world-wide.
Many of the poorer no-name lesser athletes may rationalize it as their best option, with nothing to lose. Many may be forced to dope, either directly or indirectly, being exploited by foreign management as a necessary condition for funding and travel.
"jacksprat" specifically asked about EPO. Of the Kenyan athletes who are "busted" only a small minority of busts are for EPO or ABP. Most are for steroids or other exotic substances. These "work" at all altitudes.
If not me and my informed opinions based on decades of performance history, maybe they should heed the words of a lifelong experienced coach with a proven capability of producing world class performance for Kenyans and Europeans alike.
More bs and lies. Kenyans lead the world for doping positives.
Quoting Canova is a joke. He is as big a doping denier as you - you both claim that EPO doesn't aid elite Kenyans who train at altitude. The same Kenyans who continue to dope in their numbers. As Sage Canaday said, you are the biggest moran on these boards.
More bs and lies. Kenyans lead the world for doping positives.
Quoting Canova is a joke. He is as big a doping denier as you - you both claim that EPO doesn't aid elite Kenyans who train at altitude. The same Kenyans who continue to dope in their numbers. As Sage Canaday said, you are the biggest moran on these boards.
I must have hit a sore spot. I can't imagine how frightening it would be to realize that you were so naive and gullible for nearly five decades because you chose poorly who to believe, unable to evaluate anything on their own merits.
I asked you to give me the top-5 pieces of information you have, that I don't, and then predicted you would be unable to answer it. How about three? Or just one? The next time you come out for a breath, why don't you ask your new chosen leader to help you?
More bs and lies. Kenyans lead the world for doping positives.
Quoting Canova is a joke. He is as big a doping denier as you - you both claim that EPO doesn't aid elite Kenyans who train at altitude. The same Kenyans who continue to dope in their numbers. As Sage Canaday said, you are the biggest moran on these boards.
I must have hit a sore spot. I can't imagine how frightening it would be to realize that you were so naive and gullible for nearly five decades because you chose poorly who to believe, unable to evaluate anything on their own merits.
I asked you to give me the top-5 pieces of information you have, that I don't, and then predicted you would be unable to answer it. How about three? Or just one? The next time you come out for a breath, why don't you ask your new chosen leader to help you?
You have no hope of getting anything from Armstronglies; as he has never read anything.
If so many Kenyans dope without the confirmation of results and yet still risking a ban you are effectively saying they are the dumbest athletes on the planet. If only they heeded you and took the advice of a non elite who has never tried it.
What I say and what you effectively understand are often worlds apart. My world is Earth. You just want to build the next strawman.
But your dumb interpretation effectively tells me your biggest fear is being seen as the dumbest person on the planet. That's why my words hurt you so much.
Back here on planet Earth:
Kenyans are not the only athletes in the world doping. Someone told me as much as 80% of athletes world-wide.
Many of the poorer no-name lesser athletes may rationalize it as their best option, with nothing to lose. Many may be forced to dope, either directly or indirectly, being exploited by foreign management as a necessary condition for funding and travel.
"jacksprat" specifically asked about EPO. Of the Kenyan athletes who are "busted" only a small minority of busts are for EPO or ABP. Most are for steroids or other exotic substances. These "work" at all altitudes.
If not me and my informed opinions based on decades of performance history, maybe they should heed the words of a lifelong experienced coach with a proven capability of producing world class performance for Kenyans and Europeans alike.
There seems to more bans for ABP cases since the WADA-accredited lab went online in Nairobi back in late 2018 (they had shutdown for awhile during Covid).
In addition to the "poorer no-name lesser athletes" there are plenty of bigger household-names popped for EPO or ABP anomalies like Kiprop, Jeptoo, Kiptum, Sumgong, Risio, Winjuri, etc.
Have you reviewed the ABP case with another top Kenyan - Joyce Chepkirui?
Patterns of active doping during prep for big competitions over the last several years followed by more normal blood values when not racing.
A 1:06 HM PR. Some big road wins. Some top finishes in major marathons.
If so many Kenyans dope without the confirmation of results and yet still risking a ban you are effectively saying they are the dumbest athletes on the planet. If only they heeded you and took the advice of a non elite who has never tried it.
What I say and what you effectively understand are often worlds apart. My world is Earth. You just want to build the next strawman.
But your dumb interpretation effectively tells me your biggest fear is being seen as the dumbest person on the planet. That's why my words hurt you so much.
Back here on planet Earth:
Kenyans are not the only athletes in the world doping. Someone told me as much as 80% of athletes world-wide.
Many of the poorer no-name lesser athletes may rationalize it as their best option, with nothing to lose. Many may be forced to dope, either directly or indirectly, being exploited by foreign management as a necessary condition for funding and travel.
"jacksprat" specifically asked about EPO. Of the Kenyan athletes who are "busted" only a small minority of busts are for EPO or ABP. Most are for steroids or other exotic substances. These "work" at all altitudes.
Only a minority of Kenyan athletes are busted for EPO because EPO is part of a "doping cocktail" where the athlete is getting nailed for the androgens first ("doping cocktails" aren't anything new - this strategy has been used by dopers for decades).
Microdosing EPO is far easier to avoid detection vs androgen use - even microdoses of steroids or testosterone.
Distance runners aren't just going to use androgens but those compounds plus HGH, or even "SARMs" would be utilized with EPO as part of their "doping cocktail."
Remember this report on the "high-profile" Ethiopian female runner who readily purchased EPO & HGH from a pharmacy located just down the street from their national track stadium as part of her 45 day doping program? How convenient it must be for these dopers to have access to their gear from a pharmacy right near where they race at. Lol
Guardian investigation shows how easy it is to obtain doping products, uncovers disorganisation at the Ethiopian anti-doping agency and catches leading athlete admitting to having taken performance-enhancing drugs
More bs and lies. Kenyans lead the world for doping positives.
Quoting Canova is a joke. He is as big a doping denier as you - you both claim that EPO doesn't aid elite Kenyans who train at altitude. The same Kenyans who continue to dope in their numbers. As Sage Canaday said, you are the biggest moran on these boards.
I must have hit a sore spot. I can't imagine how frightening it would be to realize that you were so naive and gullible for nearly five decades because you chose poorly who to believe, unable to evaluate anything on their own merits.
I asked you to give me the top-5 pieces of information you have, that I don't, and then predicted you would be unable to answer it. How about three? Or just one? The next time you come out for a breath, why don't you ask your new chosen leader to help you?
I don't debate with a troll. I point out the endless bs you spout.
I must have hit a sore spot. I can't imagine how frightening it would be to realize that you were so naive and gullible for nearly five decades because you chose poorly who to believe, unable to evaluate anything on their own merits.
I asked you to give me the top-5 pieces of information you have, that I don't, and then predicted you would be unable to answer it. How about three? Or just one? The next time you come out for a breath, why don't you ask your new chosen leader to help you?
I don't debate with a troll. I point out the endless bs you spout.
You don’t debate with anyone.
You don’t read ; you make quotes up ; you runaway when challenged but not before you issue vile insults… to everyone.
How can you hide behind claiming Rekrunner is a troll.
I must have hit a sore spot. I can't imagine how frightening it would be to realize that you were so naive and gullible for nearly five decades because you chose poorly who to believe, unable to evaluate anything on their own merits.
I asked you to give me the top-5 pieces of information you have, that I don't, and then predicted you would be unable to answer it. How about three? Or just one? The next time you come out for a breath, why don't you ask your new chosen leader to help you?
I don't debate with a troll. I point out the endless bs you spout.
You make it sound like you could debate, but choose not to.
You never debate with trolls or non-trolls because you simply don't have the information necessary to debate. Otherwise, why not share this information if you could?
You want to shoot holes at my posts, but your guns are always loaded with blanks.
Do you two actually know each other, so the way you endlessly carry on from thread to thread means it's personal, or are you anonymous to each other and just a couple of sad old men with nothing better to do in your lives?
I don't debate with a troll. I point out the endless bs you spout.
You make it sound like you could debate, but choose not to.
You never debate with trolls or non-trolls because you simply don't have the information necessary to debate. Otherwise, why not share this information if you could?
You want to shoot holes at my posts, but your guns are always loaded with blanks.
I learned long ago that debate with one such as you is a complete waste of time, so I don't bother. But it is easy to expose the cr*p in your apologism.
What I say and what you effectively understand are often worlds apart. My world is Earth. You just want to build the next strawman.
But your dumb interpretation effectively tells me your biggest fear is being seen as the dumbest person on the planet. That's why my words hurt you so much.
Back here on planet Earth:
Kenyans are not the only athletes in the world doping. Someone told me as much as 80% of athletes world-wide.
Many of the poorer no-name lesser athletes may rationalize it as their best option, with nothing to lose. Many may be forced to dope, either directly or indirectly, being exploited by foreign management as a necessary condition for funding and travel.
"jacksprat" specifically asked about EPO. Of the Kenyan athletes who are "busted" only a small minority of busts are for EPO or ABP. Most are for steroids or other exotic substances. These "work" at all altitudes.
Only a minority of Kenyan athletes are busted for EPO because EPO is part of a "doping cocktail" where the athlete is getting nailed for the androgens first ("doping cocktails" aren't anything new - this strategy has been used by dopers for decades).
Microdosing EPO is far easier to avoid detection vs androgen use - even microdoses of steroids or testosterone.
Distance runners aren't just going to use androgens but those compounds plus HGH, or even "SARMs" would be utilized with EPO as part of their "doping cocktail."
Remember this report on the "high-profile" Ethiopian female runner who readily purchased EPO & HGH from a pharmacy located just down the street from their national track stadium as part of her 45 day doping program? How convenient it must be for these dopers to have access to their gear from a pharmacy right near where they race at. Lol
Your comments are always informative but you are wasting your time if you think they will make a dent in the religious ideology that is rekrunner's view of doping.
Do you two actually know each other, so the way you endlessly carry on from thread to thread means it's personal, or are you anonymous to each other and just a couple of sad old men with nothing better to do in your lives?
I have plenty to do in my life but deriding the garbage posted by doping apologists for a dirty sport is easy. It's like having a coffee.
Do you two actually know each other, so the way you endlessly carry on from thread to thread means it's personal, or are you anonymous to each other and just a couple of sad old men with nothing better to do in your lives?
I have plenty to do in my life but deriding the garbage posted by doping apologists for a dirty sport is easy. It's like having a coffee.
I once took the time to count, and you posted, at least one post per hour, for 14 hours in a row.
You have nothing to do in your life but hurl insults at others while exposing your ignorance.
You are lonely. But now that you have found a master to worship, maybe you will find some sort of meaning in your life.
Did you know that Sage once beat Krupicka at Speedgoat?
You make it sound like you could debate, but choose not to.
You never debate with trolls or non-trolls because you simply don't have the information necessary to debate. Otherwise, why not share this information if you could?
You want to shoot holes at my posts, but your guns are always loaded with blanks.
I learned long ago that debate with one such as you is a complete waste of time, so I don't bother. But it is easy to expose the cr*p in your apologism.
But you do bother but respond with uneducated drivel which you fail to back up except that when cornered you respond with vile insults.
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