RE: Cheating at Marathons

go away wrote:

This thread is on PM.

Sorry, I know I'm a naughty boy, but I thought it was relevant, not only to Angela but also PM.

Things are getting creepy.

go away wrote:

Valid? wrote:

Err, valid? So an anonymous poster called 'Eyewitness to a cheater' posting it makes its valid?

Impossible splits from the RR100. 3 marathons and 100 miler in a weekend. 100% runner rankings from Ultra signup in the same year as 60%.

There is tons of numerical proof that something wacky is going on with PM.

I have no clue who Angela is, and maybe she's a cheater too, go dig up some numbers and post em. On a thread about Angela. This thread is on PM. And to be honest I had never heard of her either. But now that I have, I don't like what I see.

Quantity = slower pace? She went from running 24 a year to over 100 plus several 100 milers.

I have heard that people also get slower as they get older. I'm 17 so what would I know?

I also saw Angela start the race in Arkansas with the early starters.

Someone going back to the RD and correcting their time shows integrity and a concern that her times are correct.

Please someone with a Facebook account leave a comment about Parvaneh cheating here:

https://www.facebook.com/Legends100Club

I tried, but I have now been blocked

I now see she posted another article yesterday about here finishing Badwater.

http://endurancebuzz.com/2014/08/08/2014-badwater-135-results-and-reflections-from-our-tribe/

It's interesting that she ran these 2 ultras faster than she runs marathons.

Pretty sure I couldn't hold marathon pace for 50 miles, let alone faster than MP.

MP is your race pace over a marathon.

By definition you could not hold MP for 50 miles.

If you could, then thats not your marathon pace, or you cheated.

I guess I need to remember that PM and the rest of these compulsive marathon walkers are not actually racing any of these runs. If you have no hope of competing I guess the draw is to find a gimmick. For them it is walking 300 marathons a year.

Thank you for everything you have done here, Angela.

I have definitely heard Angela during races and I have seen her start early even when there weren't "official" early starts. But who are these other two?

Serious question- Has anyone even contacted Guinness World Records about this? This is just ridiculous and has gone on long enough now.

Definitely not Angela.

Wild Hare 50 miler November 19th, 2011

3rd Place Female with a 50-mile time of 10:16 ?!?!?!? Wholly smokes that is an incredible time!!!!!

The following was OK'd to post by Allen. He indicated that "the truth is never hard to remember".

This explains the amazing time and 3rd place finish.

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I was running the 50 miler, and in the afternoon, I was approaching “Speedway” (I think that’s the name of the trail that runs up and down next to the county road), I was not far behind her (but I was not in contention for any award as she was a lap ahead of me, maybe two laps ahead, who knows), and I saw her cross over the trail markings, completely eliminating running “Speedway.”

I also think she saw me, as I caught her dead stop in the act!

I have suspected since that day that she is a habitual cheater.

Regards,

Allen Lazenby

Assuming this is referencing PMs actions?

Yes, PM was 3rd place female in 2011. 10:16. That is not possible for her. Thanks for sharing this.

PM needs to stick to her niche of walking 7 hour marathons everyday. It seems like she gets into trouble when she ventures into the established ultra races. Of course, that may just be because she can get away with cheating at her own races. Who knows.

But seriously, PM, you are like the dog who had the bone in your mouth (this bone being your frequent marathoning gig) and dropped it to get the bone that she saw that the other dog had - really just a reflection in the water (the other bone being ultra marathon "glory").

But guess what, the new bone fell in the water and you are left with nothing, Pav. (your exposed cheating at ultras has cast doubt on everything you've done).

Strong finisher again. (But so was the winner Amanda Alvarado- anyone know her?)

Here are the top 3 women at 2011 Wild Hare, a 5 mile and 6x 7.5 mi loops:

Amanda Alvarado

0:50:34 2:05:44 3:28:56 5:09:29 6:55:16 8:32:03 9:54:36

_ _ _ 1:15:10 1:23:12 1:40:33 1:45:47 1:36:47 1:22:33

Pace: 10:07 10:01 11:06 13:24 14:06 12:54 11:00

Cheryl Tulkoff

0:50:31 2:22:54 3:47:36 5:12:49 6:45:28 8:26:03 10:10:11

_ _ _ 1:32:23 1:24:42 1:25:13 1:32:39 1:40:35 1:44:08

Pace: 10:06 12:19 11:18 11:22 12:21 13:25 13:53

Parvaneh Moayedi

0:58:50 2:27:47 4:00:36 5:32:32 7:11:40 8:53:11 10:16:39

_ _ _ 1:28:57 1:32:49 1:31:56 1:39:08 1:41:31 1:23:28

Pace: 11:46 11:52 12:23 12:15 13:13 13:32 11:08

Ultra runners talk. We share. We don't cheat. We don't care about records. We love running for what it is.

If you cheat, we at going to share. PM, you are not welcome in our sport. Go away.

How many more people need to come forward for people to take action? People don't just make accusations like this unless they are absolutely 100 percent positive of a witnessed fact, especially when they offer their actual name. Numerous people have shared what they witnessed and included their actual names. More are coming forward I am sure. Three Badwater runners witnessed cheating less than a month ago. It just keeps coming...

ultra fail wrote:

PM needs to stick to her niche of walking 7 hour marathons everyday. It seems like she gets into trouble when she ventures into the established ultra races. Of course, that may just be because she can get away with cheating at her own races. Who knows.

But seriously, PM, you are like the dog who had the bone in your mouth (this bone being your frequent marathoning gig) and dropped it to get the bone that she saw that the other dog had - really just a reflection in the water (the other bone being ultra marathon "glory").

But guess what, the new bone fell in the water and you are left with nothing, Pav. (your exposed cheating at ultras has cast doubt on everything you've done).

How does one walk a 7 hour marathon and then expect people to believe that she is capable of the times that she has done 50 milers in?

Also, why isn't she a tad lighter in weight? Not being mean, I am quite serious. She's too big to run that far for that long (unless it's the pictures not doing her justice).