Rowan Seth Clev Whistleblower

I guess no one can name any definite performance enhancing effects. Even WADA says potential but nothing specific. I want to run faster! Seriously it seems to be banned more because the peptide hasn’t been fully researched, etc. Healing quicker isn’t necessarily a performance enhancer and recovery claims aren’t actually proven at all. I’m starting to lean toward witch hunt/vendetta unless there’s definitely been a positive EPO test. Oddball case.

Yeah, that’s a terrible look for Rowan. Those are not the actions of a school with nothing to hide.

What does it matter? The only relevant facts are 1) it’s banned and 2) he took it.

If the argument is suddenly moving towards “Okay, fine, yeah, he took it, but what advantage did it give him, really?”, then things must be getting really, really desperate.

Wake up babe, new Clevenger defense strategy just dropped.

Part of why it’s banned is because it isn’t FDA approved for human usage

Banned is banned it doesn’t matter what benefits it gives if any

I basically stated such. Can anyone name potential benefits? That’s what I’m asking. And I also asked if he’d actually failed and EPO test. Lots of dinger pointing but it’s all “he said, she said” with no definite proof. That’s why I ask. Some guy posting an easily created image/vid of a screen doesn’t seem hard enough. The brigade - which yes, could be one paranoid guy - should be able to steer me towards the actual proof. That’s all I want to see instead of something that looks more and more like click-bait.

He claimed people accessed his email “illegally” yet didn’t deny what was in the email. Read between the lines

Is proof of admitted usage of banned peptide BPC 157 not enough for you? Sorry you don't like the rules. Move along.

Bump, admission lies on the same spectrum as testing positive

You’re not going to get a straight answer from mom’s basement dweller. Your questions did make him uncomfortable. He has a very personal ax to grind. Maybe he’s a new Brooklyn boiler room draftee and the thread is part of his pilpul training. But for now, a better guess is a paranoid-schizophrenic with OCD. As for Clevenger, like you said early on, he probably panicked over injury if he used the peptide. But this guy is nuts and asks you to move along because he has no answers just accusations. Watch him repeat the post.

If you or someone else wants to make the argument that BPC157 shouldn’t be a banned substance you can start a separate thread about that. I’ve spent a bit of time looking into BPC157 due to injury issues and I’m open to the view that it actually is just snake oil and doesn’t do anything beneficial.

But, it is currently a banned substance that Clevenger reportedly admitted to taking, and he and Rowan should do the right thing and have him serve a ban.

There of course is also the allegation that he took EPO, with some evidence to support that allegation. If he’d like anyone to believe that he actually didn’t he could start with being honest about taking BPC157 and serving his ban for that.

Onto your 20th username for this thread?

Most supplements aren’t not FDA approved but still sold everywhere including Amazon.

So?

The non-sequiturs aren't going to make anything happen other than make us laugh at you for even trying.

BPC157 is banned by the NCAA. Taking it triggers an automatic one-year suspension, and he did. It's really as simple as that.

Just because you can buy them does not make them okay to use when the involvement of NCAA/WADA rules are there

Now if you were a middle aged hobby jogger that knows they won’t be a Connor mantz and is HONEST about peptide/EPO usage then it doesn’t really matter

Edit: I didn’t know Allie O was banned initially so try playing better catch up next time

But you were okay with Allie O and S Richardson using banned substances.

Wow, we're now on to completely unrelated whataboutism?

The Clevenger family/army of room-temperature IQ Rowan sprinters are really scraping the bottom of the barrel here so far as coherent, defendable arguments. You idiots are really speedrunning this to the bottom, I thought Seth's mom chirping a student newspaper was the minima but I can't wait to see what's coming next.

My god you Rowan people are delusional.

Apples and Oranges

Allie O took RESPONSIBILITY for what she got banned for and was TRANSPARENT, Sha'Carri was banned for Marijuana/THC which the MAJORITY believe should NOT be banned because there's no benefits to it and the book was outdated for it.

The difference between these two and Seth is that Seth took something that was banned/not FDA approved AND has NOT been transparent on why he should be "innocent." Add in that Rowan are pretty much in on it, they're only digging themselves a deeper hole to jump in.

Rowan is playing chicken. In New Jersey, Attorney fees are recoverable if the public records requestor is forced to file a court action to compel production and prevails. Court cases can also generate a lot of unwanted media coverage. The public presumption becomes "why is the institution being difficult and what is it hiding?"