I’m a huge fan of Ingebrigtsen. In all my years of following the sport, I’ve never seen such a talented runner that races and goes after records as often he does. Look at all the threads about him. He is wonderful for the sport.
I think he is greatly overrated in a sport that has lost all credibility through its doping and that has a reduced public following compared to other major sports. So we differ there.
Even with the lost credibility, reduced public following and doping in the sport, you avidly follow Ingebrigtsen’s career. He’s made you into a bigger fan of distance running.
I think he is greatly overrated in a sport that has lost all credibility through its doping and that has a reduced public following compared to other major sports. So we differ there.
Even with the lost credibility, reduced public following and doping in the sport, you avidly follow Ingebrigtsen’s career. He’s made you into a bigger fan of distance running.
I'm not a fan. I follow the sport in the same way I follow what has happened in US politics. It doesn't make me a Trumper, but an observer of decline.
Even with the lost credibility, reduced public following and doping in the sport, you avidly follow Ingebrigtsen’s career. He’s made you into a bigger fan of distance running.
I'm not a fan. I follow the sport in the same way I follow what has happened in US politics. It doesn't make me a Trumper, but an observer of decline.
You don't follow the sport. You obsessively post about a handful of runners and call every fast one a doper. You don't even watch races.
At no stage before the race did he claim the 10k record was his "plan". That is a retrospective claim, made by those such as you. What athlete of his calibre enters a HM to run himself into the ground seeking a national record for a distance that isn't even half that of the event he is entered? He performed way below expectations - his own included - and embarrassed himself by being reduced to a walk by the half-way mark. Your feeble justification for it - it was all a "master plan" - only adds to that embarrassment, but your record on these boards shows that if you choose to defend anything it will invariably be false.
You only have to watch the race, and his sprint finish at 10K, to see that it was intentional. He doesn't need to say it out loud.
In any case, he didn't say much before the race at all, only confirming it the day before. His expectation was so low, he wasn't even sure he could finish the race -- looks like he exceeded that expectation. Here's what he said:
"I'm looking forward to test myself in the half marathon, for the first time, in Copenhagen," Ingebrigtsen said on the organisers', Copenhagen Half Marathon, website. "Normally this is a distance that would suit my training very well, but after a long season on the track working towards the 1500m, it's exciting to see if I even can reach the finish line."
At no stage before the race did he claim the 10k record was his "plan". That is a retrospective claim, made by those such as you. What athlete of his calibre enters a HM to run himself into the ground seeking a national record for a distance that isn't even half that of the event he is entered? He performed way below expectations - his own included - and embarrassed himself by being reduced to a walk by the half-way mark. Your feeble justification for it - it was all a "master plan" - only adds to that embarrassment, but your record on these boards shows that if you choose to defend anything it will invariably be false.
You only have to watch the race, and his sprint finish at 10K, to see that it was intentional. He doesn't need to say it out loud.
In any case, he didn't say much before the race at all, only confirming it the day before. His expectation was so low, he wasn't even sure he could finish the race -- looks like he exceeded that expectation. Here's what he said:
"I'm looking forward to test myself in the half marathon, for the first time, in Copenhagen," Ingebrigtsen said on the organisers', Copenhagen Half Marathon, website. "Normally this is a distance that would suit my training very well, but after a long season on the track working towards the 1500m, it's exciting to see if I even can reach the finish line."
Then he shouldn’t have run it and instead waited a few months to give the HM a try. A poor performance, with excuses, is an incomplete.
You only have to watch the race, and his sprint finish at 10K, to see that it was intentional. He doesn't need to say it out loud.
In any case, he didn't say much before the race at all, only confirming it the day before. His expectation was so low, he wasn't even sure he could finish the race -- looks like he exceeded that expectation. Here's what he said:
"I'm looking forward to test myself in the half marathon, for the first time, in Copenhagen," Ingebrigtsen said on the organisers', Copenhagen Half Marathon, website. "Normally this is a distance that would suit my training very well, but after a long season on the track working towards the 1500m, it's exciting to see if I even can reach the finish line."
Then he shouldn’t have run it and instead waited a few months to give the HM a try. A poor performance, with excuses, is an incomplete.
I agree with you but Jakob is known for just going for it, even when he ends up overdoing it. Do you remember that race in Norway where he collapsed at the end?
Then he shouldn’t have run it and instead waited a few months to give the HM a try. A poor performance, with excuses, is an incomplete.
Why not?
And who said it was a poor performance with excuses? He still set a national record for 10K, and established a personal best for the half, without any expectation of even finishing.
How does it make more sense to wait a few months -- now is the time for recovery, and then training for next year.
At no stage before the race did he claim the 10k record was his "plan". That is a retrospective claim, made by those such as you. What athlete of his calibre enters a HM to run himself into the ground seeking a national record for a distance that isn't even half that of the event he is entered? He performed way below expectations - his own included - and embarrassed himself by being reduced to a walk by the half-way mark. Your feeble justification for it - it was all a "master plan" - only adds to that embarrassment, but your record on these boards shows that if you choose to defend anything it will invariably be false.
You only have to watch the race, and his sprint finish at 10K, to see that it was intentional. He doesn't need to say it out loud.
In any case, he didn't say much before the race at all, only confirming it the day before. His expectation was so low, he wasn't even sure he could finish the race -- looks like he exceeded that expectation. Here's what he said:
"I'm looking forward to test myself in the half marathon, for the first time, in Copenhagen," Ingebrigtsen said on the organisers', Copenhagen Half Marathon, website. "Normally this is a distance that would suit my training very well, but after a long season on the track working towards the 1500m, it's exciting to see if I even can reach the finish line."
So we got it wrong. He wasn't trying to run a HM but a 10k road race - but only at the speed of the top HM runners. So much for his "best distance". The Africans run rings around him - which is easily done when he is walking.
You only have to watch the race, and his sprint finish at 10K, to see that it was intentional. He doesn't need to say it out loud.
In any case, he didn't say much before the race at all, only confirming it the day before. His expectation was so low, he wasn't even sure he could finish the race -- looks like he exceeded that expectation. Here's what he said:
"I'm looking forward to test myself in the half marathon, for the first time, in Copenhagen," Ingebrigtsen said on the organisers', Copenhagen Half Marathon, website. "Normally this is a distance that would suit my training very well, but after a long season on the track working towards the 1500m, it's exciting to see if I even can reach the finish line."
Then he shouldn’t have run it and instead waited a few months to give the HM a try. A poor performance, with excuses, is an incomplete.
Then he shouldn’t have run it and instead waited a few months to give the HM a try. A poor performance, with excuses, is an incomplete.
Why not?
And who said it was a poor performance with excuses? He still set a national record for 10K, and established a personal best for the half, without any expectation of even finishing.
How does it make more sense to wait a few months -- now is the time for recovery, and then training for next year.
You do know 10k is not a HM? His performance was like a md guy going for his best 800 time in a 1500 race - at the same speed as the 1500 runners and then getting buried by them over the full distance. That's what his 10k "record" is worth.
I only mock Jakob because he is a big-head who constantly overstates what he says he is going to do and then often produces excuses when he fails. If he didn't do that it could simply be accepted he has bad days and makes errors of judgment - although these appear to be produced by his egotism leading him to overestimate his abilities. But it is the bs posted by fans here that is most worthy of derision. Completely detached from reality.
You do know 10k is not a HM? His performance was like a md guy going for his best 800 time in a 1500 race - at the same speed as the 1500 runners and then getting buried by them over the full distance. That's what his 10k "record" is worth.
This is what he said before the race: "after a long season on the track working towards the 1500m, it's exciting to see if I even can reach the finish line."
63:13 is not a bad debut under the circumstances. Setting a national record is just the whipped cream and cherry on top.
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