The article was initially entiteld, "Zane Robertston!!!!" but we changed it to make it more descriptive. Here is our article on his bust and fake excuses (he said he went to a hospital for a COvid-19 vaccine but they gave him EPO instead) which points out that in 2016 he expressed frutation at the amount of doping in the sport:
It's interesting how it takes you several paragraphs to concede you can't answer the question and prove your claim about the number of Kenyan world record holders in the events listed prior to 1980. Nor can your little lap dancer, slowwer.
He just told you where to find those names. Took me 1 minute. It's on page 43.
Because you are as thick as a row of bricks, a conviction for criminal offences isn't necessary to establish an offence may have been committed, otherwise charges would mean nothing. If charges were to be brought the evidence is clearly on the side of the AIU. But the AIU is not a law enforcement agency so it doesn't bring criminal charges. That is the role of the police. Your attempts to be clever only show what a dullard you really are.
I know words like "clever" and "sly" have slightly different meanings to Americans than those under the Commonwealth.
I'm attempting to be clever by asking you basic questions you claim are well within your domain of knowledge and education and experience? I would have thought asking questions implies that the asker does not have information that the answerer might -- in other words that the asker has a reason to believe the answerer is the "clever" one in this instance. I guess you might say that "thick as brick" persons need to ask questions from those who have answers in order to get thinner.
But you've done absolutely nothing to address any of the basic legal questions before you. The disciplinary tribunal suggested that seemingly the AIU was the victim of crimes. With your vast depth of legal expertise gained presumably by obtaining a law degree, and while being in a bar -- is the statement correct, that the fraudulent conduct rises to the level of a crime? Maybe it is simply civil fraud. If I'm a victim of a crime, I can go to the police. Can the AIU? Will the AIU?
It's telling that even in the area you claim to have a superior education, resulting in a law degree, you still chose to completely ignore the clear and simple entry level legal questions in front of you, in order to propogate conspiraces, and attack the intelligence of the person simply trying to obtain any glimpse of your intelligence in a domain you claim competence.
This perfectly demonstrates where your true competence lies.
I am not interested in discussing the legal issues of the AIU report - it isn't a court case - with a doping apologist bean counter, who has has no understanding of the law.
It's interesting how it takes you several paragraphs to concede you can't answer the question and prove your claim about the number of Kenyan world record holders in the events listed prior to 1980. Nor can your little lap dancer, slowwer.
It's too funny watching you still flapping and playing obvious childish games. You are not able to answer legal questions or perform simple searches, so you project your failures on to me.
What's even more funny is that 4 days ago, in this very thread, "slowwer" again gave you a long list of record holders which includes all the names I was able to find, and you replied to it 3 days ago.
But as funny as this is to experience, the most interesting question for me is -- can you find the answer before someone gives it to you? I already gave you two successful methods: 1) search wikipedia (hint: there are compiled lists of "world record progressions") or without even leaving this forum, 2) search this forum for the answers "slowwer" already gave you twice (hint: search for what you know: "slowwer Armstronglivs keino rono" and look through your own posts). Any grade school pupil can find that 4 Kenyans set 10 world records in 4 metric track events, during this period in question, from 1964-1980 (no offense meant to grade school pupils or septuagenarians).
It's telling that even in the area you claim to have a superior education, resulting in a law degree, you still chose to completely ignore the clear and simple entry level legal questions in front of you, in order to propogate conspiraces, and attack the intelligence of the person simply trying to obtain any glimpse of your intelligence in a domain you claim competence.
This perfectly demonstrates where your true competence lies.
I am not interested in discussing the legal issues of the AIU report - it isn't a court case - with a doping apologist bean counter, who has has no understanding of the law.
I know where your interest lies -- I even said so: "conspiracies and personal attacks".
The question is not your interest, but your ability to even do so.
I will interpret your silence as a tacit concession that the conduct in question does not satisfy the the necessary elements of a crime, and you are simply not interested in admitting that.
He just told you where to find those names. Took me 1 minute. It's on page 43.
List them next to the events below:
- 800m
- 1000m
- 1500m
- 2000m
- 3000m
- Steeple
- 5000m
- 10000m
I'll make it easier for you -- you don't need to search imperial distances or road races.
Or I'll make you another deal -- I will provide you the names and dates and events of 4 Kenyans setting 10 records in 4 track events before 1980, only after you admit without ambiguity or exception that you are simply not competent enough to find them for yourself, even after being told directly at least two times, and you only play childish games to hide your incompetence from yourself and others who you believe are not smart enough not to recognize your incompetence and your childish games.
I'll make it easier for you -- you don't need to search imperial distances or road races.
Or I'll make you another deal -- I will provide you the names and dates and events of 4 Kenyans setting 10 records in 4 track events before 1980, only after you admit without ambiguity or exception that you are simply not competent enough to find them for yourself, even after being told directly at least two times, and you only play childish games to hide your incompetence from yourself and others who you believe are not smart enough not to recognize your incompetence and your childish games.
I am not interested in discussing the legal issues of the AIU report - it isn't a court case - with a doping apologist bean counter, who has has no understanding of the law.
I know where your interest lies -- I even said so: "conspiracies and personal attacks".
The question is not your interest, but your ability to even do so.
I will interpret your silence as a tacit concession that the conduct in question does not satisfy the the necessary elements of a crime, and you are simply not interested in admitting that.
You will interpret it that way because you are as dense as a brick.
The AIU has identified the existence of elements of a criminal practice. That isn't the same as the bringing of charges against any named individual and obtaining a conviction, which is not the role of the AIU but the police and the Courts.
But of course your diversion to who has been tried and convicted for criminal fraud in this investigation when no charges have been laid is your risible effort to deny what the AIU has uncovered. That's like saying there no black market till someone's been convicted. A denier to your last tiresome gasp.
It's interesting how it takes you several paragraphs to concede you can't answer the question and prove your claim about the number of Kenyan world record holders in the events listed prior to 1980. Nor can your little lap dancer, slowwer.
It's too funny watching you still flapping and playing obvious childish games. You are not able to answer legal questions or perform simple searches, so you project your failures on to me.
What's even more funny is that 4 days ago, in this very thread, "slowwer" again gave you a long list of record holders which includes all the names I was able to find, and you replied to it 3 days ago.
But as funny as this is to experience, the most interesting question for me is -- can you find the answer before someone gives it to you? I already gave you two successful methods: 1) search wikipedia (hint: there are compiled lists of "world record progressions") or without even leaving this forum, 2) search this forum for the answers "slowwer" already gave you twice (hint: search for what you know: "slowwer Armstronglivs keino rono" and look through your own posts). Any grade school pupil can find that 4 Kenyans set 10 world records in 4 metric track events, during this period in question, from 1964-1980 (no offense meant to grade school pupils or septuagenarians).
You will interpret it that way because you are as dense as a brick.
The AIU has identified the existence of elements of a criminal practice. That isn't the same as the bringing of charges against any named individual and obtaining a conviction, which is not the role of the AIU but the police and the Courts.
But of course your diversion to who has been tried and convicted for criminal fraud in this investigation when no charges have been laid is your risible effort to deny what the AIU has uncovered. That's like saying there no black market till someone's been convicted. A denier to your last tiresome gasp.
Once again, instead of sharing knowledge in a field of expertise you claim to possess, you tellingly choose personal insult, with some name calling for good measure, because you believe I threaten your belief in conspiracies.
I know what they AIU said -- but is it correct? Maybe while you were bartending, you met some real lawyers who have the expertise you claim, to interpret it for you, and you could share that with us.
Yes I think Kenya today is pretty much about systematic doping these days. They should have been banned Russia style at least a few years ago. I would also have banned any runners living/training in Kenya for long periods of time. But the governing bodies have just turned a blind eye to the situation.
I see that Rono held the steeplechase and 5k records in '78. That appears to make him the only other Kenyan record-holder than Keino from the mid 60's to 1980.
Any confirmation that Rono held the steeplechase and 5k records in '78? Where did you get this info?
Since 1939, when Rudolf Harbig has run 1:46.6 for 800m, the 800 WR always at least was 1.5 seconds stronger than the 880y record (a distance less than 0.6% longer than the 800). Trying to belittle Kenyan running success again and again because no record in the 880y, is hard to beat in its pure ridiculousness.
But Armstrong challenges himself constantly. The last real WRs in the 3 Miles and in the 6 Miles both were set in 1965. After this just a few intermediate times were recogniced.
Pure stupidity and ignorance to ask for those records again and again.
In the 16 year period 1964 - 1979, no other nation has set as many track distance running WRs than Kenya: namely 10.
In the events Kenyans have set no WR in this period, they really came very close to do so:
0.07 s in the 800m
around 1s in the 1000m, the 1500m and in the Mile
The only nation who was close to this in the given period was GB.
Why would you say "still"? They were produced for you three months ago.
I gave you a deal.
They weren't. List them next to the events above. You and your little doping denial stooges are making the claim. Support it. But you can't. There are only Keino and Rono. You are totally full of sh*te.