Road Racing and Training Thread, Week Ending 02-02-2020

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On the strug bus, my apologies

Rrr - I think he may have stolen your claim to skinniest legs on the thread.

Thanks Lanc! I definitely had a lazy 200 from 800 to 1k and those college kids starting making a bunch of noise like their buddy was about to pass me. Got scared and pulled my act together for the last 600 after that lol.

I'll be focused on track stuff through early summer, but that certainly won't preclude me from hopping on the roads here and there. I had tentatively considered trying to get up to Boston for the Valentine invite on the 15th, but I don't think I'm quite at a point to make that trip worth it. Given that, I'll probably have to be patient and try to line up some quick races outdoors.

Thanks. I largely took this advice and tried to work down to between M and T pace. Ended up with the below + 3 up and 1 down. This felt about right... not too hard but I was definitely working. Hoping it will make M pace feel a bit easier.

6:37/6:34/7:26,6:13/6:26/7:56, 6:25/6:28/7:42, 6:13/6:13/8:02

angryjohnny wrote:

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On the strug bus, my apologies

Rrr - I think he may have stolen your claim to skinniest legs on the thread.

Haha! Not my actual legs :) thanks for the help everyone, I'll take some more time off in case it's a stress reaction.

Nice work

"When you come to a fork in the road, take it."

-Yogi Berra

M, 32, 6'1" 158

Recent: 28:18 5-miler

Goal: half 4/26, sub 1:20

65.8 miles in 8 runs.

Long run 14.7 with middle 4 at 7:40. Not a workout exactly, but quicker and focused for easy LR.

Still all easy miles. Just rambling and going down a lot of new roads/trails, killing time, pondering koans from Mr. Berra and other sports people. Which is starting to get a little old. About ready to add some intensity.

Joining the party late after a big weekend. Friday was my birthday and then there was travel to and from an out of town wedding. To summarise: I spent several days indulging in various buffet lines, one of which included a small robot that excreted pancakes. This was much appreciated after my longest run in 2 years.

Form change update: seems ok so far. I'm really watching out for new issues, but nothing seems concerning. A few light creaks have come and gone, but that seems par for the course and things are trending clearer. Feels like an adjustment period is passing by well.

Not planning to add any more miles at this time. Would like to keep the long run at 14-15 and then add quality to it before too long.

So this is pretty cool...

The Rock N Roll Series is debuting a half marathon team competition this weekend in New Orleans that will continue in each city they visit going forward. They score the top-3 athletes on each team based on cross country scoring (not average or net time). Prizes are $4000 for 1st, $2000 for 2nd and $1500 for 3rd. The competition will be broadcast on their Facebook page.

Local track clubs can enter a men's and women's team, granted that each team member satisfies at least one of the entry standards ... Men - Sub-2:37 full, Sub-1:15 half, Sub-33:00 10K, Sub-16:00 5K ... Women - Sub-3:09 full, Sub-1:29 half, Sub-38:00 10K, Sub-18:30 5K.

My track club (Power Milers) is one of four entered this weekend. We'll be going up against the talented Boulder Track Club, the Gator Track Club and the Working Man's Track Club.

Should be fun.

imagebearer: Hate to say it but I'd be concerned about shin pain you can pinpoint. Its one of the things I've been most nervously watching out for in troubleshooting my own lower leg issues.

GT: Great week. Several new high scores lately, yeah? Good stuff.

DB: Congrats on the PR! A minute and a half is always big, but it sure is huge off a 34 min. 10k.

hhw: Great session on Wednesday. Looking really strong. Maybe a pretty pronounced taper could clear up the Achilles isssue.

LR: Sorry to hear about the kids. Hope all of you have a better week.

JQ: Cool back to back races, that's gotta have some positive training value at your volume. I think I'd be wrecked.

TL: Definitely a solid race on the heels of a bachelor party.

CM : Congrats again. Pretty cool to be a national champ.

HJ: I heard good things about that. Is it like a training log with notes added after the race?

cocoon: Way to hang tough in the race, good stuff. That's a nice "train, don't strain" workout on Tuesday.

PowSloke: I think that is the right spin. Definitely salvaged a good race out of it. Gutsy racing to not pack it in, and a great example of why you should stick it out sometimes.

stat: Pretty zippy all around this week, and nice double on the track.

M45 5'6 128

Recent PR's: 16:29 5K, 33:59 10K, 1:15:14 half, 2:42:22 full

Goal Race: London Marathon Age Group World Champs 4/26/20

Next race: local half sometime in March 2020

Had some left anterior hip pain early in the week so skipped my speed workout and reduced miles for the week. Sometimes you just have to dial back your training to try to stay healthy. Also focused on slowing down my easy and recovery run paces.

Mon: PM Dirt Trail Loop recovery 8.1@8:04

Orange Theory Treadmill HIIT 4.6@5:28+ strength/core

Tue: Treadmill Recovery 6@8:14 (left hip felt achy)

Wed: Treadmill Easy 8@7:09

Thu: AM: Treadmill WU 0.5@7:11, Tempo 6@5:37, CD 0.5@6:35

PM Park Easy 3.3@7:57

Fri: AM Orange Theory Treadmill Intervals 2.7@5:30-ish + strength/core/rowing

PM Treadmill Easy 8.3@7:03

Sat: Group Long Run 18.8@6:55

Sun: Recovery Dirt Trail Loop 8@8:13

Comments:

GT: Strong week of training and congrats on the weekly mileage PR. Nice way to kick off your Boston training.

DietBacon: Congratulations on the 10K PR . Looking strong for London.

fnd: Welcome back to the thread.

Stone Cutter: Hope you feel better soon... you probably needed this week to recover so you can come back stronger in your training.

RRR: Looking forward to you getting back to running.

OR: Strong week of running. Hope that little niggle that you felt on Saturday is nothing serious.

Going faster: Glad to hear things are continuing to come along. It is smart of you to build back up gradually.

HHW: amazing set of workouts especially considering you have a gimpy Achilles.. good luck with the sub-3 and BQ at that marathon. Taper time. I am not doing Daniels (I am following a modified Hanson's) but I would do a speedwork session and a 10 mile tempo at MP during the week 2.5 weeks out from a goal marathon.

LancRunner: Not much you can do when you get sick and your kids get sick. Hang in there and you can get back to your training once everyone gets healthy again.

RunnerSam: Solid restart back into serious training.

JQ: Congratulations on great results for your back to back races and especially on the race win.

THOUGHTSLEADER: Solid 4 mile race. What is Project Fearless by the way?

Darkwave: Very strong set of workouts. I think that 2:55 is definitely a realistic goal for your marathon with your current fitness.

pewow: Congratulations on a solid 10K race and nice to see improvement in your tempo intervals workout.

Coyote: Congratulations again on the award. Good to see you getting back at it with your training.

Sub-6: Solid recovery week after a great half marathon race. I vote Fukuoka... running in a race in Japan would be awesome. And you get to run with only faster runners with the 2:35 qualifying time.

BHViking: Nice recovery week with that one solid tempo run at MP to spice things up.

Tyler: Really nice set of workouts and good luck in your half marathon race this weekend. Those are tough standards for the team racing but good luck to your team.

hoggy jobber: Nice base building week... when does serious marathon training start for you? I think I have the physical copy of that book but I need to find it and finish reading it.

AJ: Impressive 110 miles with some strong workouts. You are going to do something special at London.

NiceGuy: Nice set of 2Q workouts.

cocoon: Solid week of training with the high mileage and the workouts with a tough 10K race at the end of the week.

HHH: Very impressive 14K alternating pace tempo run! Nice parkrun tempo as well.

Still Improving: Nice long run.. looks like you have recovered nicely from the leg issues.

powsloke: Great race despite feeling pretty awful through the race. Just think of it as a tuneup/tempo workout run.

statfanatic: Great set of speed workouts and the 4:20/1:59 double at a meet was impressive.

mdubs: Thanks for answering my question. That was a tough track workout with the heavy winds but I am sure it will make you a stronger runner.

jewbacca: Staying healthy and preventing injuries from ballooning into something bigger is so important. Good to see you running miles and gradually ramping.

Guy Broman: Nice long run followed by some sweet buffet meals. Eat and run it off.

Haven't had orientation or anything, but it appears to be something like this for the 100 people involved:

14-week training plan leading into Popular BK Half with 3x weekly in-person sessions. Goal is to get you to raceday healthy and in great shape. Personally aiming for sub-1:21 to AQ into NYC 2021.

- weekly long run

- weekly speedwork

-weekly mobility day ( I suppose I'll do an easy run in the morning)

You get to work with the Nike Run coaches, and they have a bunch of partners as well that you get access to/special offers etc. They send out training plans to start each week. Some free Nike gear involved as well (it's to promote the injury-prevention shoe ~ React Infinity so we'll see if that's involved).

I'm not sure what to expect, I've been self-trained, mostly running solo and am pretty bare-bones as far as my routine. Just run, stretch post-run and foam roll, essentially. So we'll see how it all shakes out with the group dynamics, coaching, and auxiliary stuff to running. Excited to find out.

Sub 6:00 wrote:

As for the rest of the year, probably won’t do a spring marathon, and will just have some fun with shorter races. Some ideas for fall:

1. NYC - Too late for a time qualifier, would have to do the lottery

2. Indianapolis - This would be a nice, normal thing to do

3. Philadelphia - Same thing, and can just take the train

4. Fukuoka - Maybe I’m crazy? Looks like I can wait until September to apply.

Decided against:

1. Berlin - Too late

2. MCM - Can save this for when I have kids and need something close. Doesn’t look like they’re doing the 50k this year.

3. CIM - If I’m traveling that far, might as well keep going to Japan.

4. Richmond, Detroit, Chicago - Would like to do something new, but maybe in the future.

How about Twin Cities?

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angryjohnny wrote:

Rrr - I think he may have stolen your claim to skinniest legs on the thread.

Haha! Not my actual legs :) thanks for the help everyone, I'll take some more time off in case it's a stress reaction.

My legs are much skinnier!

and yes it does sound like a stress reaction/Fracture with the not warming up and able to pinpoint w pressure.. esp if its on the bone

runrincerepeat wrote:

imagebearer wrote:

Haha! Not my actual legs :) thanks for the help everyone, I'll take some more time off in case it's a stress reaction.

My legs are much skinnier!

Pics?

The Large fellow that I was running beside make my legs look even skinnier

That large fellow - who is really good looking - has calves bigger than your quads.

Its pretty easy to determine the best looking dude in that picture.

The guy mostly obscured right behind you wearing Hokas and sweatpants, apparently just full on playing Candy Crush on his iPhone really puts everything in context for me.

runrincerepeat wrote:

Its pretty easy to determine the best looking dude in that picture.

And it’s definitely not the “dude” wearing the pink crop top and hipster bracelets.

Bracelets on point, crop on point ... my point exactly.