Posture needs work wrote:
She needs to work on her posture. Her shoulders are very rounded. I really want her to get back to her former self but like others her body has changed quite a bit.
Sniff.. Our kids, they grow up so fast. It seems like yesterday they're just toddlers, and now she's a woman.
The Human League wrote:
I know I will get ragged on for saying this but her personality is what makes her golden. She could have easily become the next Jordan Hasay but even with all the publicity and offers she sees through the facade of competition at the highest levels. The money, the medals, etc. it's all a myth. This is no Alexi Pappas people, if Mary Cain wanted to she could make an Olympic team in something with consistency being her only lucky chip in the process. So long as Mary Cain enjoys life I hope she does whatever she wants even if she runs only a so-so half marathon and puts a 13.2 sticker on her bumper. The monotonous and almost robotic Jordan Hasay could never just be herself like Mary Cain. Jordan Hasay runs for everybody else. Not even sure Hasay knows who she really is.
That's just plain mean. You don't know Jordan, and yet try to belittle her.
Ok, to recap;
Mammoth seems to put out a video of a hobbling Mary Cain as an advertisement for their location?
I think Mary was a breath of fresh air in the many interviews she did in her heyday.
Now she is power limping in California and quoting Winnie the Pooh?
Mary was amazing in her day, maybe she is in the road back, please re-release a video of her refreshed, resplendent and restored....
Because I can’t watch that video again without shedding a tear.
The Human League wrote:
I know I will get ragged on for saying this but her personality is what makes her golden. She could have easily become the next Jordan Hasay but even with all the publicity and offers she sees through the facade of competition at the highest levels. The money, the medals, etc. it's all a myth. This is no Alexi Pappas people, if Mary Cain wanted to she could make an Olympic team in something with consistency being her only lucky chip in the process. So long as Mary Cain enjoys life I hope she does whatever she wants even if she runs only a so-so half marathon and puts a 13.2 sticker on her bumper. The monotonous and almost robotic Jordan Hasay could never just be herself like Mary Cain. Jordan Hasay runs for everybody else. Not even sure Hasay knows who she really is.
Mary is going to run a half plus an extra 180 yards?
The Human League wrote:
The monotonous and almost robotic Jordan Hasay could never just be herself like Mary Cain. Jordan Hasay runs for everybody else. Not even sure Hasay knows who she really is.
Buddy, you have no idea what you are talking about.
Wrong again. Have to laugh at you for boasting about your self perceived parenting skills when you couldn’t make sense out of my first post. Keep up the good work!
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Jenapharm wrote:
I just wonder what was the point of releasing the video?
This. I am not sure either. Strange video. Mary is very likable. Confident, articulate, great smile. But dang does her form look almost as bad as mine in that video lol.
The bottom line for Mary is that, well, she became a woman. Not overweight proportionally by norma standards but she isnt a little girl any longer. Clearly she is gimpy but the footage is more than that. Mary always had a unique form. not sure if gangly is the right term. Maybe awkward? Was always rounded at the shoulders and maybe a little stiff upright looking. Not disputing the undeniable effectiveness she had a few years ago.
I went back and watched a few videos of her. The ‘13 us womens indoor mile was clearly many “issues” ago but wow, the power. Incredible turnover. She lengthened that stride and accelerated with ease. But that form is a world different than the Mammoth video. Too many injuries? Too much tinkering with her form by Al and how many others? Total loss of flexibility?
Regardless, it was great to see her having some fun and enjoying life in the Mammoth video.
666 wrote:
that may be true, but wrote:
She's not an elite.
Nike contract says otherwise.
Rappers get sponsored by Nike.
hardset nipples wrote:
MM3307 wrote:
It's almost like it's a bad idea to drop a HS kid into a high-pressure professional environment with a bunch of adults that are 10+ years older than her.
No idea why her parents thought this was her best option. Did they get a cut of the Nike contract?
Her Mom thought Salazar calling was a "sign from God". You don't mess with the big guy.
PwacTwac wrote:
Jenapharm wrote:
I just wonder what was the point of releasing the video?
This. I am not sure either. Strange video. Mary is very likable. Confident, articulate, great smile. But dang does her form look almost as bad as mine in that video lol.
The bottom line for Mary is that, well, she became a woman. Not overweight proportionally by norma standards but she isnt a little girl any longer. Clearly she is gimpy but the footage is more than that. Mary always had a unique form. not sure if gangly is the right term. Maybe awkward? Was always rounded at the shoulders and maybe a little stiff upright looking. Not disputing the undeniable effectiveness she had a few years ago.
I went back and watched a few videos of her. The ‘13 us womens indoor mile was clearly many “issues” ago but wow, the power. Incredible turnover. She lengthened that stride and accelerated with ease. But that form is a world different than the Mammoth video. Too many injuries? Too much tinkering with her form by Al and how many others? Total loss of flexibility?
Regardless, it was great to see her having some fun and enjoying life in the Mammoth video.
That video was from January and she was obviously injured then. She may have just done a little running to appease the people putting the video together, who knows. In the race she just ran NYRR tweeted out a finish line video and she looked completely different. I think it'll be a long climb back for her, but her ceiling is still immensely high. It's hard to bounce right back from 2.5 years of injuries, but if she is patient and builds her speed back with an adult body she can still be a US star. And wouldn't that be quite the show?
When the foundation crumbles and the roof caves in, the ceiling is not actually as high.
from january wrote:
PwacTwac wrote:
This. I am not sure either. Strange video. Mary is very likable. Confident, articulate, great smile. But dang does her form look almost as bad as mine in that video lol.
The bottom line for Mary is that, well, she became a woman. Not overweight proportionally by norma standards but she isnt a little girl any longer. Clearly she is gimpy but the footage is more than that. Mary always had a unique form. not sure if gangly is the right term. Maybe awkward? Was always rounded at the shoulders and maybe a little stiff upright looking. Not disputing the undeniable effectiveness she had a few years ago.
I went back and watched a few videos of her. The ‘13 us womens indoor mile was clearly many “issues” ago but wow, the power. Incredible turnover. She lengthened that stride and accelerated with ease. But that form is a world different than the Mammoth video. Too many injuries? Too much tinkering with her form by Al and how many others? Total loss of flexibility?
Regardless, it was great to see her having some fun and enjoying life in the Mammoth video.
That video was from January and she was obviously injured then. She may have just done a little running to appease the people putting the video together, who knows. In the race she just ran NYRR tweeted out a finish line video and she looked completely different. I think it'll be a long climb back for her, but her ceiling is still immensely high. It's hard to bounce right back from 2.5 years of injuries, but if she is patient and builds her speed back with an adult body she can still be a US star. And wouldn't that be quite the show?
This was probably a 'sponsored' thing where she got some free lodging/physio in exchange for an appearance video. This is more about Mammoth Lakes as a place, not Mammoth Track Club.
Everyone wants a "Is Mary Cain Update?" and this is what it is. Everyone wants to see her come back and succeed. Plus this puts her back on the map for other sponsorship opportunities.
SDSU Aztec wrote:
I don't understand why attending Portland State and training with NOP would be any different than running for a D1 school. If I had been good enough to compete at a world class level at her age, I would have been loving life.
.....and not competing at a world class level.
bleu wrote:
Then I can’t help you. You never ran D1.
"Running" D1 is not the same as what Cain was attempting. You're clueless.
Nature wins wrote:
SDSU Aztec wrote:
I don't understand why attending Portland State and training with NOP would be any different than running for a D1 school. If I had been good enough to compete at a world class level at her age, I would have been loving life.
I'm guessing that she had to revolve her classes around NOP workouts and had little time to get involved in anything on campus or meet anyone. On a D1 team, you have a built in social network of teammates who have the same schedule as you do.
So from a running standpoint it's ideal but at 18, no social network is tough.
Eureka!
The LetsRun board is proven to have at least one coherent parent prospect.
bleu wrote:
13.1
Not if you don't run the tangents.
Like the NHL does every year?
MM3307 wrote:
It's almost like it's a bad idea to drop a HS kid into a high-pressure professional environment with a bunch of adults that are 10+ years older than her.
Its egun wrote:
Ok, to recap;
Mammoth seems to put out a video of a hobbling Mary Cain as an advertisement for their location?
I think Mary was a breath of fresh air in the many interviews she did in her heyday.
Now she is power limping in California and quoting Winnie the Pooh?
Mary was amazing in her day, maybe she is in the road back, please re-release a video of her refreshed, resplendent and restored....
Because I can’t watch that video again without shedding a tear.
Cain just had a really good race in New York. Sucks to be you.
TTH wrote:
SDSU Aztec wrote:
I don't understand why attending Portland State and training with NOP would be any different than running for a D1 school. If I had been good enough to compete at a world class level at her age, I would have been loving life.
.....and not competing at a world class level.
Huh? I have to hate life to run at a world class level?