D1 in PA - CT - RI - NY

Ah, now I see. You're just on here to pitch that $300+/month service. Nice try.

D1 Asst Coach wrote:

Can you share a list of these kids that are crying for money to run in a Mid-Major or lesser conference so I can reach out to them and confirm if in fact they would be willing to run at such a program?

I am now curious, as we recruit hundreds of kids a year from sub-9 to sub-10 for Men and sub-11 to sub-12:30 for Women.

My last full scholarship female- 58, 2:13, 5:00, 11:33.

My last full scholarship male, 9:36, 15:17

9:36?

No offense, but your team must suck ass.

NCSA is a scam for runners. Now you know who that poster is. NCSA contacts every runner in the country and that is why he is misleading people into thinking there is money for slow kids. Times are an objective metric that does not require advertising. Don't listen to anyone claiming that there are full rides because there aren't. Kids over 9:30 get nothing, nowhere, nohow. Slow schools are slow because they have no scholarships. Fast schools are fast because they utilize 12 scholarships but you need to be really fast to get anything. Posters have pointed out that coaches would be fools not to advertise that they give money to 9:30 kids because they would be bombarded with emails of 9:20 kids looking for money. Have any coaches divulged the name of any college on here yet? No.

I ran 9:37 and got a full scholarship, D1. You need to be informed.

Where?

The one I’m specifically talking about was UNC Charlotte. 16 flat kid, barely ran track, ~10th at XC states.

I also know a kid who was slightly more credentialed: 15:4X XC, 29th or so at foot lockers. Got full tuition and some housing at Penn State.

We weren’t talking about DII but I know kids who could barely break 10:00 that got full rides at a few DII schools

Don't take this the wrong way, I'm not a sarcastic d1 runner but rather a junior HS trying to learn about colleges, but is a school like UNC Charlotte like any other D1 schools? In my state we don't have many state colleges like that so the names throw me for a loop. Do these schools have decent funding for travel?

Penn State doesn't give full tuition scholarships unless you run 1:48 or 4:08 in HS. The slowest 5k runners on Penn State from HS: Last is 4:19. Second slowest ran 4:19 and 15:22. Third slowest ran 4:14. Fourth slowest ran 4:15 and 9:26. Fifth slowest ran 8:56. These are their 5 slowest guys and they are walk-ons. They had 7 guys run the equivalent of sub 4:10.

Charlotte is not a fully funded program and they have no 16 minute guys on the team.

Pay attention to these fake posts. They are trying to mislead you in order to lead you into one of those recruiting services. My neighbor got a full ride at 9:50, my son got a full ride at 9:39, I got tuition at penn state by running 4:39. Many schools publish their standards. Looking at a bunch of D1 schools, the average walk-on standard is 9:20. The starting scholarship standard is 9:10 and the target recruit is 8:58. That means to run at a power 5, you need to run 9:20 as a junior. To get even $1, you need to think about hitting 9:10 as a junior. Kids don’t get full rides at D1 schools.

You’re not fast enough for D1 rate now. Like others said D2/D3 are more of a running fit.

Also, more importantly evaluate your major and price of school. If you want to be a teacher going to a 20-30 thousand year school is stupidity. However if you want to be a doctor/lawyer it might be worth it.

Now go for a run and get faster.

Look at D1 Texas schools you can get SOME money at 930. Maybe only 1/4 but yes it is there.

Not sure what your agenda is, but as I stated, I ran 9:37 for 3200m and got a full scholarship at Division I. I have no problem sharing my details, as my story has been told. I chose Florida International University. Also offered from Univ. of Florida and Univ. of Miami, full rides. I could have gone to UCLA, Notre Dame, and Clemson and paid a lot of money, but I chose the best financial situation. My little brother ran 4:28/9:54 and got a full ride to FIU as well, then transferred to Florida State and earned a full ride. My sister ran 5:16/11:38 and got a full ride. My wife ran 5:28/12:18 and got a 100% scholarship, DI. More relevant, my niece ran 11:30 in 2016 and got a full ride, DI as well (Southland Conference). My best friend's son went sub-9 (last year) and obviously signed 100% full ride at one of the best DI programs.. When I was a DI Coach, I offered full rides to kids than ran between 9:20-9:50. Girls, anything under 12:30 for 3200m. My sister coaches a solid top high school in Florida and continues to sign full scholarship girls to college. Their school record is around 5:00/10:50. So whatever your agenda is, just stop posting. There are over 300+ Division I universities in the country that need to fill rosters and that have scholarships and are funded and a lot of these don't deal with sprints/jumps/field. Obviously, there are more opportunities for women, but there are dozens of programs out there looking for talent and simply, bodies. My advice: decide what is important for you: is it to run at an awesome DI running school; is it to go to an amazing academic program; or is it to be 100% free of any debt when you graduate and you make your life and degree what it's worth? You guys know how to find me, send me an email if you want any strategic advice. I've got a high school sophomore in this process right now, so I know the game. Enjoy Black Friday... and to the kids wanting to run D1, don't let anyone ever tell you that you can't run DI. Running is about progress. 80% of the NCAA D1 is made of of kids that run 9:30-10:00. Find a program/coach that believes in you and give it your best.

Don’t be scammed wrote:

Pay attention to these fake posts. They are trying to mislead you in order to lead you into one of those recruiting services. My neighbor got a full ride at 9:50, my son got a full ride at 9:39, I got tuition at penn state by running 4:39. Many schools publish their standards. Looking at a bunch of D1 schools, the average walk-on standard is 9:20. The starting scholarship standard is 9:10 and the target recruit is 8:58. That means to run at a power 5, you need to run 9:20 as a junior. To get even $1, you need to think about hitting 9:10 as a junior. Kids don’t get full rides at D1 schools.

ThatAverageRunner wrote:

The one I’m specifically talking about was UNC Charlotte. 16 flat kid, barely ran track, ~10th at XC states.

I also know a kid who was slightly more credentialed: 15:4X XC, 29th or so at foot lockers. Got full tuition and some housing at Penn State.

We weren’t talking about DII but I know kids who could barely break 10:00 that got full rides at a few DII schools

Like someone else pointed out to you there is zero chance that Penn State gave full tuition and some housing to a 15:4x Cross guy. Think about it. They are competing in the Big 10. Do not believe what people tell you. A lot of parents and kids like to claim they are getting money. Penn State has a full track team so the only money they are giving out is to national caliber athletes. The father who wrote above about his two sons is telling the truth. 4:12 and 9:11 will get you into schools and onto the team but no money at big schools and top conferences.

Hello Dolly wrote:

You’re not fast enough for D1 rate now. Like others said D2/D3 are more of a running fit.

Also, more importantly evaluate your major and price of school. If you want to be a teacher going to a 20-30 thousand year school is stupidity. However if you want to be a doctor/lawyer it might be worth it.

Now go for a run and get faster.

Unless you go to a shtzy school in state there are zero schools where cost of attendance is under 20-30k. This person has zero brains

I have no agenda to push. I ran for a DIII school and am just posting stories of local runners I knew from high school. Penn states XC team (guys) is trash and the kid im talking about emailed a lot of different coaches over the summer (because he had a mediocre junior year) and states his goal, then succeeded them by going under the former state course record (but he was 3rd in that race) and qualifying for footlockers. The kid admits he didn’t run well at penn state.

And both DI kids I was talking about have since graduated so looking at current rosters won’t help.

I personally think the OP should consider DIII, but there are ways of getting money at DI and DII schools without being the best couple guys in the state.

Maybe you were from the 1950s. OP said he wasn't looking for money just advice. I think he shy do well at a school like Duquesne or URI. Providence would be a stretch but nothing wrong with having them as a stretch goal.

Oh my gosh you have no clue wrote:

Hello Dolly wrote:

You’re not fast enough for D1 rate now. Like others said D2/D3 are more of a running fit.

Also, more importantly evaluate your major and price of school. If you want to be a teacher going to a 20-30 thousand year school is stupidity. However if you want to be a doctor/lawyer it might be worth it.

Now go for a run and get faster.

Unless you go to a shtzy school in state there are zero schools where cost of attendance is under 20-30k. This person has zero brains

If you’re going into a field like teaching those small state schools make more financial sense. Employers in those fields just want to see a diploma/certification.

It’s amazing how many teachers I know whom are 100k in debt and make 50k a year. When they could of payed 50k in total tuition over four years to get the same certification.

In US high schools last year:

TOP 500

1600: 4:19.65

3200: 9:24.42

You ran 13 seconds slower than what the 500th fastest kid in the US ran and you got a full ride? Your little brother, who is 9 seconds off over the mile and probably not even ranked in the top 1000 got a full-ride to Florida State?

Please. STOP LYING. There is absolutely no reason to keep trying to get everyone's hopes up.

Just looked up FIU's team. Holy crap is that team trash. Average 28:00 over 8k? That's barely average for a D3 school.

What the hell are they giving money out for? For kids that would finish 60th at the UAA meet?