Swaglord wrote:
But man, Stormy is disgusting. Bad taste in women, rawdawgs a girl that has had some serious stuff in there. He lies about it too. Lied to his wife. What a mess! And he's our president. So now high schoolers and middle schoolers who read about it think it's kinda sorta alright. What a loser.
Kinda like JFK.
OLD SMTC SOB wrote:
Swaglord wrote:
But man, Stormy is disgusting. Bad taste in women, rawdawgs a girl that has had some serious stuff in there. He lies about it too. Lied to his wife. What a mess! And he's our president. So now high schoolers and middle schoolers who read about it think it's kinda sorta alright. What a loser.
Kinda like JFK.
Or Lyndon Johnson
Or...
wejo wrote:
Marksch wrote:
I don't think it is relevant whether or not YOU are worried about the blackmail angle, but the $130k and NDA show that TRUMP is worried about it..... And if he is worried about blackmail from an affair 12 years ago that most people seem not to care that much about, what do you think he feels about his shady dealings with the Russian mafia?
Possible shading dealings in Russia is something else. Let's focus on this.
I guess I don't understand the blackmail angle.
My thinking is Trump's team went around and paid off all the women he had slept with because he didn't want any November surprises.
How is he fearing blackmail? If he feared blackmail he WOULDN'T pay her off. I assume his henchmen went to her and said "don't talk about the affair". Here is some cash for your silence and she agreed. Is that a crime in some way? Now if campaign money is involved that's something separate but I'm curious how this is a possible crime to pay someone for their silence about an affair.
I think the fact that he is paying people off is clear evidence that he fears blackmail.
1. You know something about me that I don't want to get out in public.
2. You could blackmail me with that.
3. To circumvent the blackmail, I will pay you off with an NDA.
Again, though I agree with many others that this illustrates his reprehensible character, the bigger deal to me is that it represents his susceptibility to blackmail in other dealings....
Again, like his shady business dealings with the Russian mafia
Everyone knew before the election that he was a hound dog. Look what came out of his mouth when he was pushing 60 and had a young pregnant wife at home. Yet, many women continued to support him, even those who were well educated and should have known better. Nothing about him surprises me. Even he didn't collude with the Russians they interfered with our election hoping to put him into the White House as he would be the candidate who would most destabilize the U.S. Look around now and you could see the destabilization- our relations with our allies, plans for tariffs, soft treatment of the Russians, destruction of our environment, and so much more. It's only been a little over a year. Hang on. The ride has just begun!
His wife? wrote:
You’d love to hear about someone bragging about cheating on his wife? A person who is a leader and should be setting an example for American children? You’re reinforcing stereotypes about gay men having no moral compass and an inability to be monogamous. Good job.
If you’re looking for a political figure to set moral standards for children you’ve already failed. You’re reinforcing stereotypes about straight men being haughty and emasculated and an inability to take a joke without the realization that you are indeed a weak male with low testosterone. Good job.
Trump is a very suiccesful businessman, very handsome, suave and debonair. Most women would love chance to have a romp with him. Stormy should count her lucky blessings that she had that chance and now just shut up.
The President is fighting a losing battle. The women have the "Trump" card in my book. They women can violate the NDA anyway. What are the repercussions if they do? They're not criminal. And it results in more negative publicity for the President if he sues them. So I think the info is going to get out. Even if they don't speak, we're all talking about the affairs because indirectly it's in the news now. A better course of action I think would be to just let them speak, but that's not in the President's wheelhouse. He holds grudges and is a fighter. We already know he cheats on his wife and isn't of high moral character so if they just talk about the affairs I think it's out of the news quickly.
Marksch wrote:
I think the fact that he is paying people off is clear evidence that he fears blackmail.
1. You know something about me that I don't want to get out in public.
2. You could blackmail me with that.
3. To circumvent the blackmail, I will pay you off with an NDA.
Again, though I agree with many others that this illustrates his reprehensible character, the bigger deal to me is that it represents his susceptibility to blackmail in other dealings....
Again, like his shady business dealings with the Russian mafia
Blackmail is staying quite about something for money. Trump is just getting ahead of the game. He doesn't mind paying them to be quite so I wouldn't say he fears blackmail. He if anything is fine being blackmailed about the affairs.
Shady business dealings with Russians is something else all together and of much more interest. If the Russian knew the President did some shady stuff in Russia and essentially are like "toe the line with us or we'll expose it and you're finished" is much different than some porn star accepting his offer of money to not talk.
And if Trump ever gets under oath about these affairs he'd better watch out as he has trouble sticking to the truth and that got Clinton impeached. Looking back at the Clinton thing you can be impeached with a partisan vote. Much harder to be removed from office as it takes 2/3.
Trump this wrote:Trump is a very suiccesful businessman, very handsome, suave and debonair. Most women would love chance to have a romp with him. Stormy should count her lucky blessings that she had that chance and now just shut up.
“[The sex] was textbook generic. I actually don’t even know why I did it.”
http://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/stormy-daniels-151652wejo wrote:
The women can violate the NDA anyway. What are the repercussions if they do? They're not criminal.
The issue for Trump with the NDA is that is signed by only one party. An unsigned contract can be considered legally enforceable by a court if the conditions were met and the parties to the contact did not sign it. A fully signed contract of course is enforceable. But one party signing and the other party refusing to sign make the contact unenforceable.
Trump is fighting a losing war because he refuses to sign such contracts—other NDAs and probably any construction contracts. And the reason Trump refuses to sign is to give him cause to not complete the terms on his end of the deal—such as stiffing contractors.
Jdjdjdj wrote:
OLD SMTC SOB wrote:
Kinda like JFK.
Or Lyndon Johnson
Or...
Yes indeed.
The leader of a country is a reflection of the values of the people who allowed him into the office. We have deferred making contact with your world until it gets it's act together, including the USA.
You have no credibility either wrote:
If you knew how lie detectors worked, you'd know that "truthful" just means (at best) she's believes she's telling the truth. Many delusional ppl pass these tests all the time about their fantasies.
But at least this on topic for LRC, with the Paula Radcliffe bailiwick.
When are you people going to realise that a ‘lie detector’ isn’t a real thing?
wejo wrote:
The President is fighting a losing battle. The women have the "Trump" card in my book.
They women can violate the NDA anyway. What are the repercussions if they do? They're not criminal. And it results in more negative publicity for the President if he sues them. So I think the info is going to get out.
I agree. The problem for Trump is that he'd likely have to testify in some fashion whether in a deposition or in court (if he chose to sue for breach of NDA assuming the NDA is deemed a legit contract). Based on what we've seen from him over the years and not just his Presidential campaign and first 1 1/4 years, that would be a dangerous situation to put himself in.
We already know he cheats on his wife and isn't of high moral character so if they just talk about the affairs I think it's out of the news quickly.
As someone who thinks Trump is an absolute incompetent, this entire pornstar issue is not a big deal at all aside from the potential FEC violation if the $130k is deemed so. I don't particularly care about that one either.
Blackmail is staying quite about something for money. Trump is just getting ahead of the game. He doesn't mind paying them to be quite so I wouldn't say he fears blackmail. He if anything is fine being blackmailed about the affairs.
He fears something although I'm not sure what it is. He seems to attempt to present himself at some level of human perfection. Maybe he fears it getting out.....or maybe there's stuff which the pornstar can state that verifies sexual practices mentioned elsewhere.
Shady business dealings with Russians is something else all together and of much more interest. If the Russian knew the President did some shady stuff in Russia and essentially are like "toe the line with us or we'll expose it and you're finished" is much different than some porn star accepting his offer of money to not talk.
Obviously this is a much larger issue and my gut feeling is that his dealings with Russia will expose him in some fashion along these lines.
And if Trump ever gets under oath about these affairs he'd better watch out as he has trouble sticking to the truth and that got Clinton impeached. Looking back at the Clinton thing you can be impeached with a partisan vote. Much harder to be removed from office as it takes 2/3.
He'll never be impeached. The only way I think that would occur is if his presidency becomes such an unmitigated disaster that it completely screws up the makeup of Congress for the Republicans.
Trump this wrote:
Trump is a very suiccesful businessman, very handsome, suave and debonair. Most women would love chance to have a romp with him. Stormy should count her lucky blessings that she had that chance and now just shut up.
She makes more money through the insinuation. Trump is pathetic. He has to pay for sex with women who have a slew of venereal diseases. He's like Jordan Belfort, only unattractive. Stormy Daniels is trailer trash, a redneck's wet dream.
The Fokus wrote:
He'll never be impeached. The only way I think that would occur is if his presidency becomes such an unmitigated disaster that it completely screws up the makeup of Congress for the Republicans.
Which might happen given the numbers of Republicans retiring in this cycle. But, the chances are slim.
The discipline the chief idiot is showing with this issue is very well out of his impulsive, child-like norm. Something more must be at risk with Trump for him to remain so silent.
comedyrelief wrote: Stormy Daniels is trailer trash, a redneck's wet dream.
A perfect fit for Trump!
Bottom line....I don't really care what Trump has done, does or will do. Banging washed up porn stars, colluding with Russia, obstructing justice, getting spray tans, eating copious amounts of Big Macs....whatever. As long as at least one of his stupid missteps forces him out of office and shuts up the 30 percent of whackos who worship his lack of character, that is all I care about.
unprotected sex with Stormy Daniels? that is badass. Make America Great Again!
comedyrelief wrote:
She makes more money through the insinuation. Trump is pathetic. He has to pay for sex with women who have a slew of venereal diseases. He's like Jordan Belfort, only unattractive. Stormy Daniels is trailer trash, a redneck's wet dream.
Hey, she’s no trailer trash!
I’m sure if she hit on you, you couldn’t resist.
She seems pretty smart and obviously pretty hot.
And she happens to be a pornstar. She probably took the easy road to fame & fortune.
I don’t blame Trump for being weak to resist Stormy. Though, he probably did assault at least one of the many women but it’s too hard to prove even with number of women coming forward. When you’re rich and powerful, you can get away with it.
Anyway, Trump will get away with it because there are so many dumb people that don’t give a crap and are too stupid to figure out why it should matter. They don’t care or think unless it affects them directly.... like the pro lifer who wants his mistress to have an abortion or the father of the girl that was raped. They’re pro life until it affects them directly. My mom has been pro life all her life except for that time her married brother got a stripper pregnant.
There's no such thing as a lie detector.