The full USADA report on Alberto Salazar has been leaked - Here it is

rojo wrote:

Most of the group isn't cooperating fully in the investigation. If you've got nothing to hide, why not let them have full access?

Page 33 says :

As a consequence of these types of communications from Salazar, Alberto Salazar’s lawyer is currently representing at least seven (7) current or former Oregon Project athletes, including Alvina Begay (former),57 Mary Cain (current),58 Matt Centrowitz (current),59 Dawn Grunnagle (former),60 Jordan Hasay (current), 61 Galen Rupp (current),62 and Shannon Rowbury (current).63 As a result of the involvement of Salazar’s lawyer, and with limited exceptions as described herein, the foregoing athletes have largely refused to permit USADA to review their medical records.

I don't know. Go ask Paula.

Seriously, Who GIVES A CRAP. Just train and run fast.

USA USA USA!

Anyone who has been involved in some kind of legal process knows that this is a tactic to waste the other side's time. Basically you create a haystack in which to hide your needles, then you hand it over just before the relevant interview. The idea is to create a situation where the other side is not prepared. Hell, sometimes NONE of the documents are relevant.

MurphMurph wrote:

Salazar dumped 5,000 documents on USADA 3 days before his interview.

They then write he is not cooperating? 5,000 f'n documents isn't cooperating?

Production dump wrote:

Anyone who has been involved in some kind of legal process knows that this is a tactic to waste the other side's time. Basically you create a haystack in which to hide your needles, then you hand it over just before the relevant interview. The idea is to create a situation where the other side is not prepared. Hell, sometimes NONE of the documents are relevant.

MurphMurph wrote:

Salazar dumped 5,000 documents on USADA 3 days before his interview.

They then write he is not cooperating? 5,000 f'n documents isn't cooperating?

When you say 'hide your needles' you mean it literally.

This is where I'm at and just trying to figure out how much of a NOP bias, either positive or negative, would affect my take on the report.

If I, like LRC, have a negative NOP bias this report is just the tip of the iceberg and there is a whole lot more to come. Sort of like, "If they're willing to abuse L-Carnitine and vitamin D what else would they be able to do?"

If I have a positive bias then this report is much ado about nothing, "What, no EPO/steroids/testosterone, etc? Compared to Kenyan, Ethiopia, Russia, Jamaica these guys are looking like Girl Scouts."

I hope not especially during this time of year when the sun tends to be out. NOP has an agressive training schedule and in order to progress their using frequent blood testing resources. What has not been noted and should be reported to inform and educate the reader is that Vitamin D is Fat Soluble. If we have a LR audience there is a chance they're outside training ☀ The Vitamin D overhype is such big business. If your the blue collar LR and don't get tested regularly for 25 hydroxy(vitamin D) and are taking it your levels could get too high and would cause Calcium to sit in bloodstream creating plaque, high BP not to mention taking Calcium(hypercalcemia) away from bones which for a runner causes random odd aches pains in joint, bone, muscle tendon.

On the pharmacy wall you have 400iu, 2000, 3000, 5000, etc You could have Vitamin K2 supplemented which is supposed to put Calcium into bones but say your level was already good (40-60) which should follow

Mr. Obvious wrote:

I've skipped ahead to the discussion of infusion limits with L-carnitine (~p. 180-215).

Basically said that from all the records they believe Dr. Brown infused more than 50ml into Ritzenheim (and Rupp, but this section doesn't focus on him) but they can't really prove it.

A 50mL limit is a joke because how much that is depends on how concentrated the solution is.

That is true. But it could also be true that discovery requests by USADA are very broad (for example, all correspondence).

Production dump wrote:

Anyone who has been involved in some kind of legal process knows that this is a tactic to waste the other side's time. Basically you create a haystack in which to hide your needles, then you hand it over just before the relevant interview. The idea is to create a situation where the other side is not prepared. Hell, sometimes NONE of the documents are relevant.

MurphMurph wrote:

Salazar dumped 5,000 documents on USADA 3 days before his interview.

They then write he is not cooperating? 5,000 f'n documents isn't cooperating?

Yea, a lot of these emails seem really nutty. I suppose we don't have the context which just adds to it. In this one, the jump to this level of detail right off the bat seems whacko. Like it's missing a lot of context that a legit doctor would want to know.

Like a setup in a bad movie. "Kara had a baby. Not enough time to fix her with pills, can i inject? Happy Holidays!"

Bad Wigins wrote:

Mr. Obvious wrote:

I've skipped ahead to the discussion of infusion limits with L-carnitine (~p. 180-215).

Basically said that from all the records they believe Dr. Brown infused more than 50ml into Ritzenheim (and Rupp, but this section doesn't focus on him) but they can't really prove it.

A 50mL limit is a joke because how much that is depends on how concentrated the solution is.

There's a lot of talk about this and how feasible the supposed concentrations are, etc. etc.

The key part of all of this is that it does not matter at all how concentrated the solution is because L-carnitine is not prohibited, regardless of dose.

The prohibited method is infusion of more than 50ml of fluid in a 6 hour period.

This method is prohibited (rather specifically) in the WADA code because it is a way to mask doping, not because it is a way to infuse high amounts of vitamins, minerals, supplements

Am I missing something. It seems like everyone is going to Brown because of their performance. Look at Goucher's email. He was sent by wetmore. And look at Solinsky. Is the difference just scale?

Sick reading about this from guys like Ritz, Goucher, and even Solinsky! How can they all defend this wacko doctor?

Lapped Miler wrote:

Hey, stupid Rojo, would you, a clean runner, want your medical records made public? You know, records of your colonoscopies for Irritable Bowel Syndrome, and the record of your one visit to the doc after you found what you thought was a lump on your right gonad -- which turned out to be nothing? PROBABLY NOT!

[Those are theoreticals in the above example...wouldn't want to cause the man embarrassment over that which I couldn't possibly know - BECAUSE HIS MEDICAL HISTORY IS CONSIDERED PERSONAL AND PRIVATE IN OUR LEGAL SYSTEM, FOR A GOOD REASON.]

I'm clean, but damned if I'd want my medical records put out there just because some others with whom I've been linked are suspects in an ongoing investigation. Damned if I'd want my medical records released to the public for ANY reason!

I am all for medical privacy. WE're not talking about releasing them to the public. We're talking about releasing to USADA.

A) You could redact anything sensitive and

B) We're talking about sharing reports with your visits to Dr. Brown.

They wouldn't have to release they terminated a pregnancy two years ago.

SMOKING GUN PAGE 197!!!!!!

I like Salazar. Nooooooooooo!!!

rojo wrote:

I am all for medical privacy. WE're not talking about releasing them to the public. We're talking about releasing to USADA.

A) You could redact anything sensitive and

B) We're talking about sharing reports with your visits to Dr. Brown.

They wouldn't have to release they terminated a pregnancy two years ago.

Ritz released his records to USADA and now a whole bunch of those records are now available for public scrutiny.

Would you trust USADA to keep your medical records private?

WADA TUE's (private medical records) also leaked to the public.

Hi Team,

We sent out an email earlier today requesting that you begin (or continue

on) a calcitonin nasal spray for bone health.

Dorian wisely pointed out that there has been some very recent research

showing that long term use of calcitonin may slightly increase cancer risk

over time.

Although the FDA has not restricted calcitonin at this time, it does appear

that it is revisiting the long term safety of this drug.

If you are currently taking calcitonin, we recommend that you immediately

stop taking this prescription until the FDA brings more clarity to the matter.

In the meantime, we will look to explore some alternatives to managing

good bone health.

PJ242

Pete Julian’s retraction email prompted immediate reaction from Dathan Ritzenhein,

who seven minutes later plaintively inquired, “Is this some kind of joke? I have been

taking this for the last four years!”243 Unfortunately for Dathan it was not a joke.

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What about Mo Farah

maybe this explains lots of his health issues???? dont worry ritz all those mega dosages you been taking for the enhancement of running faster might have some adverse effects. i mean they either doped big big time and all this....or the mega dosages and doing lots of needles really messed up kara's brain. but yeah talk sh*t about her all you want. if i was being told to take meds and mega dosages and to be pushed onto injections right after having a baby and none of it is under the supervision of a doctor but instead some wacked out sleazy ex runner i dont think i would be ok with it.

This is the type of stuff I'm talking about. Not embarrassing stuff.