Is LA really Rupp certified? wrote:
It's a ploy. DNS or DNF for sure.
I can't believe it took so long for this to be posted. 100% ploy.
Is LA really Rupp certified? wrote:
It's a ploy. DNS or DNF for sure.
I can't believe it took so long for this to be posted. 100% ploy.
there's no incentive to run fast at the trials. the course certainly suits him, because 2:09-10 pace probably isn't difficult for Rupp after his very alone solo half at 4:40 pace.who else can run alone at that pace in a low key half marathon?THE ONLY THING THAT'S IMPORTANT IS TO BE IN THE TOP 3. (or 4 because someone will probably get hurt or back out)that's it. that's all. nothing else. 2:05 or 2:21, doesn't matter at the trials as long as you qualify.
Montesquieu wrote:
A few observations.
1. The course does not suit Rupp well. He's a rhythm runner, and all those turns won't help him.
2. In a marathon, one doesn't sit on someone else.
3. One never knows, but I'd be surprised if his entry does not guarantee a faster pace than would be the case if he didn't run.
4. He didn't need it, but I think this will give Ritz an extra piece of motivation.
5. It looks like the weather will be warmer than average--mid to high 60s at race time, and then into the lower 70s.
duhhhhh wrote:why wouldn't do that? He should sit wherever he needs to outkick whoever for 3rd place and make team without the risk of blowing up.
Actually, it does matter if he is top 3 in 2:21 because then he does not qualify for the Olympics- he does not have the standard of 2:19.
jjjjj wrote:
interesting how they use a picture of him wearing a mask for every story about him.
Not every story. That's just letsrun. There are hundreds of pictures of Rupp in the 99% of races that he has run without a mask but in possibly the biggest story in Rupp's career, they use a picture of him with a mask. That's a letsrun thing and the more mature folks who lurk around here know that.
obviously they (meaning letsrun) resent him for being privileged.
not privileged like the trust funders who run this site, mind you, but privileged by Al and Nike.
I don't think the pace of the race has much to do with whether the course suits him. And if the race were a half-marathon, then his Portland run would be a good predictor of how he would do. However, that run is not a good predictor for a marathon, much less on a course in which the pace will be anything but smooth. Rupp is a great runner and if I had to bet, I'd bet he makes the team, but I would not be surprised in the least if he doesn't.
smoke and mirrors and rubbish wrote:
there's no incentive to run fast at the trials. the course certainly suits him, because 2:09-10 pace probably isn't difficult for Rupp after his very alone solo half at 4:40 pace.
who else can run alone at that pace in a low key half marathon?
THE ONLY THING THAT'S IMPORTANT IS TO BE IN THE TOP 3. (or 4 because someone will probably get hurt or back out)
that's it. that's all. nothing else. 2:05 or 2:21, doesn't matter at the trials as long as you qualify.
Montesquieu wrote:A few observations.
1. The course does not suit Rupp well. He's a rhythm runner, and all those turns won't help him.
2. In a marathon, one doesn't sit on someone else.
3. One never knows, but I'd be surprised if his entry does not guarantee a faster pace than would be the case if he didn't run.
4. He didn't need it, but I think this will give Ritz an extra piece of motivation.
5. It looks like the weather will be warmer than average--mid to high 60s at race time, and then into the lower 70s.
Agreed. Just a question of whether it will be considered too warm, too cold, too windy, too much pollen, etc. as a excuse.
jjjjj wrote:
obviously they (meaning letsrun) resent him for being privileged.
not privileged like the trust funders who run this site, mind you, but privileged by Al and Nike.
There you go. And privileged by enormous talent, years of hard work, and decency, as far as I have ever seen except for from the mouths and keyboards of the people who are obsessed with Nike, Al, and the University of Oregon. They are in a minority, however, disproportionately represented here, but not indicative of the views of the vast majority of runners, most of whom don't hang out on the letsrun.com message boards.
Montesquieu wrote:
A few observations.
1. The course does not suit Rupp well. He's a rhythm runner, and all those turns won't help him.
2. In a marathon, one doesn't sit on someone else.
3. One never knows, but I'd be surprised if his entry does not guarantee a faster pace than would be the case if he didn't run.
4. He didn't need it, but I think this will give Ritz an extra piece of motivation.
5. It looks like the weather will be warmer than average--mid to high 60s at race time, and then into the lower 70s.
duhhhhh wrote:why wouldn't do that? He should sit wherever he needs to outkick whoever for 3rd place and make team without the risk of blowing up.
Rupp may be a "rhythm runner" compared to erratic East African surges, but he has absolutely no problem with changing terrain.
it's going to come down to a battle between Ritz and Rupp. Ritz goes back to his high school racing strategy and tries to drop the field early.
This is so so apparent to "objective fans" of T & F, which LetsRun.com is NOT!
What makes Estrada a good pick for Rio? Seemed as if he doesn't do well in the heat as shown in the US 10k champs this past year.
I say Rupp and Ritz takes up two of the spots. It's kinda funny how this was thought to be one of the weaker fields before and now it seems to be one of the most competitive trials race ever.
Rupp may lap the field.
What runner's (who have a chance of a podium finish) who are running this race have been doing races with 180 degree turns? I don't know how we can know how any of these guys are going to handle that. It seems to me that this feature will have pretty much the same effect on all of them, as far as we know. It's conceivable that it will effect some more than others but I don't know that there is any evidence who that will be.
according to NOP Twitter, Rupp is running indoors this Friday night.
The fight wrote:
Fee wrote:Isn't the downside (for Rupp) that he will miss out on the big appearance fee he would have gotten from one of the major marathons for making his 26.2 debut there? I'm sure he'll still command high fees later on, but you would think he would get extra for debuting somewhere.
I keep hearing this repeated everywhere, but is there any merit to the idea? I know Mo got quite a lot of money for his debut, but he's a British superstar in a way that Rupp simply isn't for America. Are appearance fees really any higher for an unknown debut of a star than they are if said star wins an Olympic medal in his second ever marathon? I don't actually know much, so I could easily be wrong. It just seems wrong that what you're saying is dogmatic and repeated everywhere seemingly without much weight behind it.
There's a lot of merit. Rupp would be a big deal to a lot of marathons, especially the US majors and they would pay well into the six figures for him to run.
Montesquieu wrote:
2. In a marathon, one doesn't sit on someone else.
Ummm... ever heard of Toshihiko Seko?
OklahomaGuy wrote:
according to NOP Twitter, Rupp is running indoors this Friday night.
https://twitter.com/oregonpjt/status/692831630088536064
Pre trials injury coming up.
agip wrote:
more like 2:11
sub 2:10 for an American is very very rare - i doubt it's going to happen in this race.
Well, there were 4 sub 2:10 finishes at the last Olympic Marathon Trials
Sounds a bit like Salazar's approach when he was running--intermingling track and marathon. I suspect this shows Rupp and Salazar are extremely confident that Rupp will qualify in LA.
OklahomaGuy wrote:
according to NOP Twitter, Rupp is running indoors this Friday night.
https://twitter.com/oregonpjt/status/692831630088536064