With 4 weeks of specific sprint training, how fast do you honestly think you could run a 100-meter race?

word. wrote:

"oh my" is another jealous runner with minimal speed/talent.

When are we going to see this video of you? You keep talking smack so I assume you're going to back it up.

162430 wrote:

I guess that you not really claim Mo's top end speed to be 12.9. Still a silly thing to bring up in your argument. There is no way in hell that Mo is any slower than 11.HI in a 100m.

And yet, when he ACTUALLY went to the track and ran an all-out 100m with a flying start, he ran 11.3, and when he was ACTUALLY timed in a 100 from a standing start he ran 12.9.

It seems you and "word." just have an aversion to ACTUAL reality. I wonder if he'll ever go out there and time himself in private and then quietly disappear after realizing how wrong he was.

Road Race History Expert wrote:

162430 wrote:

I guess that you not really claim Mo's top end speed to be 12.9. Still a silly thing to bring up in your argument. There is no way in hell that Mo is any slower than 11.HI in a 100m.

And yet, when he ACTUALLY went to the track and ran an all-out 100m with a flying start, he ran 11.3, and when he was ACTUALLY timed in a 100 from a standing start he ran 12.9.

It seems you and "word." just have an aversion to ACTUAL reality. I wonder if he'll ever go out there and time himself in private and then quietly disappear after realizing how wrong he was.

Yeah, I take it all back. 12.9 is that best that Mo can muster. A 3:28 1500m runner would be the 204th best 100m MIDDLE SCHOOL runner in the state of Michigan. Makes perfect sense. On the bright side, he would very nearly be the top female middle school athlete in Michigan.

By the way, I have never run an FAT 100m. I did manage to outrun all of my middle school athletes handily when they challenged me though. I beat my top boy by 5+ meters and he has never run slower than 12.4 this season. I can officially beat Mo by AT LEAST half of a second. Not too shabby for a 56.XX 400 guy/2:39 marathoner.

Yeah man. Now I know that myself, along with an above average 13 year old girl can run a 100m faster than the 6th fastest 1500m runner of all time. Thats sick

A 12-year-old Jordan Hasay could beat Usain Bolt in a 1500, so why not? Do you guys not understand event-specific training?

"5'3, 120 pound weakling. I'm actually six feet, 160 pounds."

You realize there's not much difference between the two correct? 6 foot, 160lbs is still very scrawny.

When asking what you can run for a 100m in 4 weeks it would be a good idea to actually go run a 100m right now so we know where you are starting from.

In only 4 weeks you might cut a tenth of a second.

Alan

Runningart2004 wrote:

"5'3, 120 pound weakling. I'm actually six feet, 160 pounds."

You realize there's not much difference between the two correct?

No kidding, those two are the same BMI.

No I totally understand that. Its just the fact that he has closed in 50 point, showing that he has speed. Usain Bolt is unlikely to show any promise in the distance events.

Old Mexico wrote:

A 12-year-old Jordan Hasay could beat Usain Bolt in a 1500, so why not? Do you guys not understand event-specific training?

This is completely irrelevant. Jordan Hasay was the top middle school distance runner of all-time. To compare, the top middle school sprinter of all-time is Kaylin Whitney who ran 11.59 a couple of years ago. I would agree that Mo may not be able to achieve this time. Your argument sucks. Try again.

Runningart2004 wrote:

"5'3, 120 pound weakling. I'm actually six feet, 160 pounds."

You realize there's not much difference between the two correct? 6 foot, 160lbs is still very scrawny.

When asking what you can run for a 100m in 4 weeks it would be a good idea to actually go run a 100m right now so we know where you are starting from.

In only 4 weeks you might cut a tenth of a second.

Alan

What this guy said.

Speed has a LOT to do with power, and in 4 weeks, how much more power do you think you might gain?

Those who think it's "easier" for a distance runner to drop down than a sprinter to step up are just naive.

Mo is NEVER gunna break 12.

And nor is the OP.

G wrote:

No I totally understand that. Its just the fact that he has closed in 50 point, showing that he has speed. Usain Bolt is unlikely to show any promise in the distance events.

First of all, that doesn't mean he could run much faster in an open 400. Second of all, it is very possible to be capable of a 50 for 400 but not 12.5 for 100, especially if you have good speed endurance but no power out of the blocks.

Renato Canova:

I want to say an anecdote. The Italian Alberto Cova won the first edition of WCH (1983, Helsinki) in 10000m with a last lap of 53.2. We were curious to see his real speed, and with his coach Giorgio Rondelli we bet about his time in a local competition of 400m one week after his victory. His result was... 52"8 !

162430 wrote:

Old Mexico wrote:

A 12-year-old Jordan Hasay could beat Usain Bolt in a 1500, so why not? Do you guys not understand event-specific training?

This is completely irrelevant. Jordan Hasay was the top middle school distance runner of all-time. To compare, the top middle school sprinter of all-time is Kaylin Whitney who ran 11.59 a couple of years ago. I would agree that Mo may not be able to achieve this time. Your argument sucks. Try again.

His might suck, but at least my arguments are based on real results, timed with a watch, and not silly stories.

I ran my first 100m last September, untrained winning my age group.

My goal is a top 4 place in the 2017 USATF National Masters T& F Championship.

I'm giving myself 3 years to improve by over a second.

I think that's a realistic timescale.

2013 results.

M55 100 Meter Dash

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Name Age Team Finals Wind

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Finals

1 Barnwell, Val M55 Brooklyn, NY 11.73 -2.6

2 Edwards, William M57 Columbus, OH 12.34 -2.6

3 Briscoe, Rudolph M55 Kissimmee, FL 12.59 -2.6

4 Johnson, Robert M56 Fort Worth, TX 12.79 -2.6

5 McConnell, Chris M56 Stoneham, MA 13.06 -2.6

6 Kelley, Charles M59 Woburn, MA 13.36 -2.6

7 Beattie, Richard M55 Topeka, KS 13.81 -2.6

8 Hill, Philip M56 Long Beach, CA 14.17 -2.6

Road Racing History Expert wrote:

His might suck, but at least my arguments are based on real results, timed with a watch, and not silly stories.

I just had my training partner time me at the local track. 12.24 HT. I am willing to add .4 for the conversion. 12.64.

First of all Mo went 12.98, not 12.9, so we should be saying 13.0 if we are rounding to tenths.

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Plus, didn't sprintgeezer analyze that race to death? Including the timing, wind, all that stuff? I'm going to search for that thread. IIRC it was 12.98, and probably more because I don't think reaction was counted, and some timing stuff.

found it--

http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=4974206&page=5

No gun sensor, photocell timing, so you have to add time.

So Mo was somewhere between 13 and 13.5, probably around 13.2

I'm guessing every distance runner on this board would be between 12.75-13.25, unless you really suck. Say 13.25 untrained because you are as good as Mo at sprinting, then take off half a second for sprint training effects, so you get 12.75. I guess the best would get 12.25, half a second faster, because you are just more talented at sprinting than you are at distance, even though distance is what you do.

I was 15:18, and 2 years before that went, guess what: 12.98 in a fat 100m (3-point start), and for sure there was a huge tailwind, so it was probably more like 13.3

4 weeks of training is not going to shed 1/2 sec over 100m for someone already in good shape.

Slow boat to China wrote:

I ran 58.2 and 13.2, without no specific training, no blocks and in racing flats.

I'm 5'7", 150 pounds with very little upper body strength.

I reckon I'd gain a second in 4 weeks with specific training using blocks and spikes, so I'd be happy with 12.2.

Honestly, distance runners are absolutely clueless when it comes to sprint times. "Gain a second?" Do you have any idea how much distance is covered in a second in 100m? And do you think that 4 weeks would be enough time to develop the technique for block starts and the strength needed to use them correctly? The answer to both of those questions is No. I'd give you 3 tenths after 4 hard weeks of sprint training, and you'd be walking funny and in terrible pain after each workout.