Hingle McCringleberry wrote:
Peja Stoy wrote:Online degree?
No, UF.
What position did you apply for at McD's? CEO?
Hingle McCringleberry wrote:
Peja Stoy wrote:Online degree?
No, UF.
What position did you apply for at McD's? CEO?
jamin wrote:
Funnily enough, the blue-collar jobs that liberals, for some reason, believe young people should be discouraged from pursuing, will become in-demand as soon as the Baby Boomers retire in droves. How many people in my generation know how to do the work that an electrician does? Hardly any, which is why those who do will make bank due to scarcity of their skill.
this is already happening. I know quite a few people from my semi-rural hometown who are making $100k+ in skilled blue-collar work/trades, without a 4-year degree or even without any postsecondary education whatsoever. At the same time I have plenty of friends who broke the bank to pursue worthless or unprofitable degrees. Our society harps on college so much, but the fact of the matter is there are plenty of perfectly viable ways to make money many of which don't require superb intelligence or academic credentials.
some real life examples
1. community college dropout who does auto body work, 30 years old raked in 200 grand last year working 50 hours a week.
2. 26 year old HVAC technician who had a 1.8 high school GPA made 150k last year working similar hours
Nothing Impressive wrote:
How do you think our parents and grandparents dealt with WWII? Do you actually believe that "tech bust, 9/11, global war on terror, housing bust, bush, obama" etc are something that would be causing depression?
NOTHING as nasty as the influenza of the early 1900s, WWI, WWII, has occurred. Frankly, most of what HAS occurred to young people exists only on the internet, in their minds.
Kids are depressed today because they ARE ALLOWED to be depressed.
My dad was no allowed to be upset about the death of his father in the Gulag, and the fact that his teenage years consisted of dragging his drunk stepdad out of a ditch or of taking a whip in the a@@ when said stepdad was able to stand.
He is the most positive person I know and achieved great things. Depression doesn't exist in his lexicon....people were taught to GET OVER THINGS and move on.
Amazing that you KNOW so much. You must be some kind of genius.
Realism wrote:
jamin wrote:Funnily enough, the blue-collar jobs that liberals, for some reason, believe young people should be discouraged from pursuing, will become in-demand as soon as the Baby Boomers retire in droves. How many people in my generation know how to do the work that an electrician does? Hardly any, which is why those who do will make bank due to scarcity of their skill.
this is already happening. I know quite a few people from my semi-rural hometown who are making $100k+ in skilled blue-collar work/trades, without a 4-year degree or even without any postsecondary education whatsoever. At the same time I have plenty of friends who broke the bank to pursue worthless or unprofitable degrees. Our society harps on college so much, but the fact of the matter is there are plenty of perfectly viable ways to make money many of which don't require superb intelligence or academic credentials.
some real life examples
1. community college dropout who does auto body work, 30 years old raked in 200 grand last year working 50 hours a week.
2. 26 year old HVAC technician who had a 1.8 high school GPA made 150k last year working similar hours
How common is it for 30 year mechanic making 200K and 26year old HVAC technician making 150K?
How do you really know these kind of examples? To get 1.8 GPA, you have to be ridiculously lazy, and all of a sudden, he's a superstar technician? And pulling 150K doing it?
Pointing Out the Obvious wrote:
Nothing Impressive wrote:How do you think our parents and grandparents dealt with WWII? Do you actually believe that "tech bust, 9/11, global war on terror, housing bust, bush, obama" etc are something that would be causing depression?
NOTHING as nasty as the influenza of the early 1900s, WWI, WWII, has occurred. Frankly, most of what HAS occurred to young people exists only on the internet, in their minds.
Kids are depressed today because they ARE ALLOWED to be depressed.
My dad was no allowed to be upset about the death of his father in the Gulag, and the fact that his teenage years consisted of dragging his drunk stepdad out of a ditch or of taking a whip in the a@@ when said stepdad was able to stand.
He is the most positive person I know and achieved great things. Depression doesn't exist in his lexicon....people were taught to GET OVER THINGS and move on.
Amazing that you KNOW so much. You must be some kind of genius.
No. He simply believes that we've become a nation of self-absorbed candy-asses. And I agree with his opinion. (you may now go take your next selfie)
So other kids are entitled because you're jealous that they are being successful in what they want to do and you screwed up?
Cosh darn it, people. Just develop a skill or create a product or service that has value to others. Market yourself a bit. Build a reputation. BAM! People will start barking up your tree.
Gazed a gazely stare wrote:
Pointing Out the Obvious wrote:Amazing that you KNOW so much. You must be some kind of genius.
No. He simply believes that we've become a nation of self-absorbed candy-asses. And I agree with his opinion. (you may now go take your next selfie)
Hate to point out the obvious but
1) I have never taken a 'selfie'.
2) As such, it may be safely assumed that your opinion of me has no connection with reality.
3) And of course, this leads to the inevitable conclusion that your opinion on this entire topic is also completely disconnected from reality.
Now run along in your little fantasy world where "Kids these days..." is all the rage.
They're only happy when they are spewing foul language, drinking excessively and taking selfies.
Pointing Out the Obvious wrote:
Hate to point out the obvious but
1) I have never taken a 'selfie'.
First, that assertion is not obvious to anyone here, bra. Second, congratulations on this notable life achievement. You must be some kind of lady.
Harry Pi wrote:
umm wrote:What is the root cause of growing depression amongst young adults nowadays? Unrealistic expectations of life? Parental issues? Pressures of social media?
Their parents did a piss-poor job of preparing them for adulthood.
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Ding ding ding. We have a winner!!!!
Gazed a gazely stare wrote:
Pointing Out the Obvious wrote:Hate to point out the obvious but
1) I have never taken a 'selfie'.
First, that assertion is not obvious to anyone here, bra. Second, congratulations on this notable life achievement. You must be some kind of lady.
Not obvious to anyone here? So?
Unlike so many folks such as yourself I learned long ago that truth is not subject to public opinion polls. That assertion is true regardless of your own personal ignorance of this fact.
Now try thinking. Try really, really hard. You never know, it might do you some good.
Pointing Out the Obvious wrote:
Gazed a gazely stare wrote:First, that assertion is not obvious to anyone here, bra. Second, congratulations on this notable life achievement. You must be some kind of lady.
Not obvious to anyone here? So?
Try to be lucid, bud. You're unraveling.
Used to be Rono wrote:
Pointing Out the Obvious wrote:Not obvious to anyone here? So?
Try to be lucid, bud. You're unraveling.
Oh, I see. K5 is back in action.
Good to see you old chum.
The shouldn't be. Housing prices are up. The stock market is up. inflation is tame. By every measure that matters Americans should be happy. Just buck up, get a job and be happy.
(Sarcasm of course)
ryan foreman wrote:
The shouldn't be. Housing prices are up. The stock market is up. inflation is tame. By every measure that matters Americans should be happy. Just buck up, get a job and be happy.
(Sarcasm of course)
why are you sarcastic? what you said is pretty much true.
Most Americans are inactive.
Most Americans spend too much time watching TV/browsing web.
Most Americans have a poor diet.
Mental health issues are really stigmatized.
The rat race makes no one happy, but we all pretend we must be as successful as possible at it to be happy.
Most CEO's are miserable.
The country with the highest "happiness" levels year to year is Denmark. Many people there live in group town-house like communities, where neighbors are more like extended family. People do everything together: play, garden, cook meals.
People just don't know where happiness comes from. It comes from shared positive experiences, being healthy, and having good friends and family.
umm wrote:
What is the root cause of growing depression amongst young adults nowadays? Unrealistic expectations of life? Parental issues? Pressures of social media?
Interesting question. I know a reasonable number of young adults and I don't see evidence that they are depressed. But assuming a significant number are I'm going to suggest that it's because we've allowed psychiatrists and the like to reframe normal sadness and discontent, things that actually can drive people to try to improve their circumstances, as a psychiatric condition requiring "treatment."
That doesn't explain all cases. There have always been people, even very successful ones, predisposed towards melancholy. Lincoln and Churchill come to mind. I worked in the mental health system for many years and it is a system that is good at creating and expanding its market. Selling someone who is unhappy because they can't get a job they want on the idea that feeling bad about that is a mental illness can sell a lot of drugs.
Baby-Boomer Entitlement Generation for the past 30 years: "Study hard and go to college so that you don't wind up digging ditches. Do well in school and you'll be able to afford your house, car, and 2.5 kids."
Baby Boomer Entitlement Generation today: "WTF is wrong with you? Terrible economy my a*s. If life is so hard, you should be working back-to-back ditch digging jobs and be perfectly happy doing it. Then you'll be promoted to head ditch digger, and you can afford your house, cars, and 2.5 kids. Also, be sure to save for retirement!!"
..... wrote:
Baby-Boomer Entitlement Generation for the past 30 years: "Study hard and go to college so that you don't wind up digging ditches. Do well in school and you'll be able to afford your house, car, and 2.5 kids."
Baby Boomer Entitlement Generation today: "WTF is wrong with you? Terrible economy my a*s. If life is so hard, you should be working back-to-back ditch digging jobs and be perfectly happy doing it. Then you'll be promoted to head ditch digger, and you can afford your house, cars, and 2.5 kids. Also, be sure to save for retirement!!"
absurd. the unemployment rate for college grads is 3.8%. Sure there is some underemployment, but who isn't underemployed in their 20s? I sure was. Virtually everyone I know was. I was worthless at age 25 - I made $8 an hour at a running store. I moved to manager. So I learned sales and management and finally was worth something. Then I got a budget priced MBA and now I am making good money.
Virtually everyone in their 20s is worthless - you have to learn a trade. But you can't do that unless you work a lot.