He's great, perhaps even the greatest running at the moment but like Mo Farah he won't compare to the GOATs UNTIL he has a world record.
He's great, perhaps even the greatest running at the moment but like Mo Farah he won't compare to the GOATs UNTIL he has a world record.
ventomaniac wrote:
coe was accused by jeff atkinson and he had the toxoplasmosis
wonder if cram thinks farah is clean after the eurpean record lol
i bet he doesn't
Anyone can make an accusation about anything!
What was the nature of the accusation and where is the evidence from Atkinson?
Toxoplasmosis is a silly argument for an accusation of blood doping. For a start it would have been his own blood extracted in the first place, so how did it get contaminated? Secondly, do you really think that the world's premier miler would have been involved in an outfit that didn't ensure all equipment was sterilised. And finally, if he had blood doped, then why did they (he and his coach) carry on for so long, none the wiser, after he started training and performing badly with side effects of tiredness, back pain and the like? A doper would have looked at doping as the cause straight away, and not kept putting his head on the chopping block against the likes of Scott, Elliott, Deleze & Cram.
The British press find out everything, and as an ex MP and the chairman of 2012, drug allegations would be huge news. If there was a story the British press would have published it by now.
The subject of Farah is completely different.
wateronice wrote:
I think it's the other way around, there's no fantasy as to El G doping or not - he's the world record holder right now because he's the greatest of all time, and people like you despise them with your full envy.
stay mad.
The only thing I envy is your youthful ignorance. It must be bliss.
someone had to do it wrote:
1) Jim Ryun, capable of 3'24 / 3'41 (as well as 1'39 for 800m)
2) El Guerrouj, would get thrashed by Ryun but still good for 2nd place
3) Keino, capable of 3'26 mid in '68, olympic champ
4) Ngeny, beat El G at his peak, 3'43 mile
5) Lagat, 3'26 guy
6) Morceli, broke WR twice, former 1500m/mile WR holder
7) Kiprop, (best guy since Post-El G era, consistent
8) Coe, good for 3'28 / 3'45 in '81, double olympic champ
9) Aouita, laziest WR holder ever, was capable of much faster than his PR indicates)
10) Maree, former WR holder, capable of 3'28 in '85 (ran 3'29.77 on tired legs)
...
I'll do the rest later
You're funny, Ventolin.
For 4 out of the 6 guy you give times for, the time never happened.
And Aoita was "lazy"? On what basis do you make this ridiculous statement?
ps Just give up on the separate handles. You have grown lazy (actually lazy) in your prior efforts to slightly differentiate them and it's become farcically obvious. Just seems weird now.
lol Peer Mediator!
british press
you mean like jimmy saville?
Brianruns10 wrote:
He's great, perhaps even the greatest running at the moment but like Mo Farah he won't compare to the GOATs UNTIL he has a world record.
"Like Farah"?
What a joke.
Appropriate, since Farah IS a joke compared with Kiprop.
Farah doesn't have a chance at a WR. Maybe before retiring he can come within a second per lap of one? 12:49 or 26:47? He's not even showing much chance of those recently.
rupp-certified saladbar wrote:
Brianruns10 wrote:He's great, perhaps even the greatest running at the moment but like Mo Farah he won't compare to the GOATs UNTIL he has a world record.
"Like Farah"?
What a joke.
Appropriate, since Farah IS a joke compared with Kiprop.
Farah doesn't have a chance at a WR. Maybe before retiring he can come within a second per lap of one? 12:49 or 26:47? He's not even showing much chance of those recently.
He's a 1500m runner. He is much closer to the WR in that event.
Mr. Obvious wrote:
rupp-certified saladbar wrote:"Like Farah"?
What a joke.
Appropriate, since Farah IS a joke compared with Kiprop.
Farah doesn't have a chance at a WR. Maybe before retiring he can come within a second per lap of one? 12:49 or 26:47? He's not even showing much chance of those recently.
He's a 1500m runner. He is much closer to the WR in that event.
Name one 1500m runner that has run a 60:10 Half Marathon.
back in the day the world records were like 1-43 3-32 13-00 and 27-20
and the greats were breaking them and winning titles
it's much harder now
the records are almost out of reach and
like there was NO TEST for epo like for years and only proper testing since about 2006
the new goats just can't break wrs like they used to now
ventomaniac wrote:
lol Peer Mediator!
british press
you mean like jimmy saville?
Supports my point. The press still found out and broke the story eventually. Now they have revealed loads more celebrities from the 70's & 80's that were doing similar things to Saville.
ya! 40 yrs later and after he died
"Now they have revealed loads more celebrities from the 70's & 80's that were doing similar things to Saville"
rubbish... they are merely reporting on police arrests
not outing nonces
someone had to do it. wrote:
And still at 3:25.84 he would be looking at the backside of Jim Ryun. Hell, I am pretty sure Nolan Ryan could break 4 minutes on my calculator.
The above is not me, just some moron playing pretend
How close is he to the HM record? Is he closer or farther than he is from the 1500m record?
My $.02 wrote:
Mr. Obvious wrote:He's a 1500m runner. He is much closer to the WR in that event.
Name one 1500m runner that has run a 60:10 Half Marathon.
Mr. Obvious wrote:
How close is he to the HM record? Is he closer or farther than he is from the 1500m record?
My $.02 wrote:Name one 1500m runner that has run a 60:10 Half Marathon.
His half-marathon time shows he's not a 1500 guy since no other 1500 runner had that kind of endurance (especially in the same season). That's why I asked for another 1500 runner that has run a 60:10 half-marathon. No one has ever done it and Mo did it in the same season. This shows he's not a 1500 guy.
He's a 5k guy with great speed.
My $.02 wrote:
Mr. Obvious wrote:How close is he to the HM record? Is he closer or farther than he is from the 1500m record?
His half-marathon time shows he's not a 1500 guy since no other 1500 runner had that kind of endurance (especially in the same season). That's why I asked for another 1500 runner that has run a 60:10 half-marathon. No one has ever done it and Mo did it in the same season. This shows he's not a 1500 guy.
He's a 5k guy with great speed.
He's a 1500m guy with great endurance. his performance curve gets worse the farther he goes.
Mr. Obvious wrote:
He's a 1500m guy with great endurance. his performance curve gets worse the farther he goes.
Both of you are wrong
He is the same type of runner as Daniel Komen
i.e.,
a 3k runner who can run very well at distances immediately above & below 3000m, namely the 1500/5k.
someone had to do it wrote:
Both of you are wrong
He is the same type of runner as Daniel Komen
i.e.,
a 3k runner who can run very well at distances immediately above & below 3000m, namely the 1500/5k.
As his 7:40 and 13:59 PRs clearly indicate......
Mr Obvious is correct, Kiprop has a lot more speed than someone like Silas Kiplagat. I'd like to see what Kiplagat could do for 3-5k.
Mr. Obvious wrote:
My $.02 wrote:His half-marathon time shows he's not a 1500 guy since no other 1500 runner had that kind of endurance (especially in the same season). That's why I asked for another 1500 runner that has run a 60:10 half-marathon. No one has ever done it and Mo did it in the same season. This shows he's not a 1500 guy.
He's a 5k guy with great speed.
He's a 1500m guy with great endurance. his performance curve gets worse the farther he goes.
How many 5ks has he run all out? None. He just happened to get in the perfect 1500. We don't know his max 5k ability. He was in 12:4x shape in 2011 and has said he's gotten better since then. Also no 1500 guy could win the Olympic or WC 10k.
My $.02 wrote:
How many 5ks has he run all out? None. He just happened to get in the perfect 1500. We don't know his max 5k ability. He was in 12:4x shape in 2011 and has said he's gotten better since then. Also no 1500 guy could win the Olympic or WC 10k.
You can argue hypotheticals all you want. I'm sticking with "his performance curve gets worse the longer he goes"
I know Ventolin is on your side so you've got that going for you.
Hardloper wrote:
As his 7:40 and 13:59 PRs clearly indicate......
Mr Obvious is correct, Kiprop has a lot more speed than someone like Silas Kiplagat. I'd like to see what Kiplagat could do for 3-5k.
imbecile
PR =/= capability