I could wear a fanny pack, fill it with lead, and still lap you in a 51 old timer.
stop yer whining wrote:
Stop being a p ussy and run outside. It's "pitch black and frozen outside" is no excuse. I'm 51 and know better than to run on a treadmill during resolutionist season. Do you wear a fanny pack too?
This Kid at the Gym .... wrote:
I do my double runs on the treadmill as it is pitch black and frozen outside. We're still in "new years resolution" phase where EVERY member of the community suddenly starts exercising. They all do it the same - run way too fast for 5-10 minutes, walk 3 minutes, and get off. Out of the 30-odd treadmills I was clearly the only person there who has ran more than 3 days in a row in their lifetime, and I was the only person not over weight.
Run outside pu$$y! I just ran in 20 degree weather...felt like a sauna!
Hi poster. I've been a clinical psychologist for over 4o years and it seems to me that this youngster is literally feeling your oats. He's basically looking for a dominant relationship with a superior male (you). On the other hand, the youngster may be a budding cuckold shill preying on older men. With that said, I'd call the fitness center's corporate office and issue a complaint that they're hiring unqualified trainers who are unfairly letting their enthusiasm get your gall. So give that a whirl. Complain that he's unqualified as state laws require fitness center employees to be certified. If that kid said something to me I'd give him my card and tell him to make an appointment before his cuckoldism gets out of hand.
Rather than complaining, just work with the system rather than against it. Run on a treadmill for 30 minutes, and then switch to a different treadmill for the last 30 minutes. Problem solved.
Randy Oldman wrote:
You can't sprint on a treadmill. Takes too effing long to increase the speed.
xfitguy is probably one of THOSE people that does their sprints through the walkways in the gym
NotACasual_Fan wrote:
You're no more entitled to use the equipment because you are...
not fat
a committed customer
a serious runner
But what you should be doing is talking to someone in charge of the gym, explain your situation.
Your a serious customer who is paying to use the equipment for 60 continuous minutes and That is what you Expect.
Ask if it is fair for you to have a full hour block to do your long run. Explain the value you bring to the gym by being a disciplined athlete (and why that desereves and exception to the rule), likely you could be inspiring other people in the gym to train and be more committed. If the gym hopes to survive it needs more people like you, and the gym should be focused on honoring its commited/repeat customers.
Directly state the value you bring to the gym. And then personally ask for an exception to the 30 minute rule.
If that person in charge does not seem to be negotating with you, figure out what he wants. But maybe there is a 0% chance he will change his policy.
At that point you can...
start asking for benefits to comensate for your loss of percieved value. Because now this gym is worth less money to you. You want a Free locker, Free gym classes, A free month membership, free guest passes. Get something back.
Go to another gym, find their policy on treadmill use. get a quote on what'd they'd offer you to switch. Bring this information to your talk.
Avoid...
loseing your cool. You can gently threaten that you know your options with other gyms (and tell them), but you'd prefer to stay. But once you give an ultimatiom (example. 60 full minutes or i quit), you end negotioation. And if you dont want to switch gyms, dont say that.
Meet the language of the gym, expolit their needs and wants, if they sell themseleves as a serious product, tell them you make serious expectations with their product and you need full results.
You can also threaten to go online and write negative reviews of the company, tell your friends your story, create negative image in the community. (If they seek to have an online pressence, that would be signifigant.)
As long as you dont come across like a jerk, but resonable and pratcial, they will like you and meet the needs you ask. Be on their side so they want you there.
I'd rather you just find another gym...you're not worth the trouble
Talking to other people like adults is not worth the trouble?
Josh Hamilton is an Angel wrote:
NotACasual_Fan wrote:You're no more entitled to use the equipment because you are...
not fat
a committed customer
a serious runner
But what you should be doing is talking to someone in charge of the gym, explain your situation.
Your a serious customer who is paying to use the equipment for 60 continuous minutes and That is what you Expect.
Ask if it is fair for you to have a full hour block to do your long run. Explain the value you bring to the gym by being a disciplined athlete (and why that desereves and exception to the rule), likely you could be inspiring other people in the gym to train and be more committed. If the gym hopes to survive it needs more people like you, and the gym should be focused on honoring its commited/repeat customers.
Directly state the value you bring to the gym. And then personally ask for an exception to the 30 minute rule.
If that person in charge does not seem to be negotating with you, figure out what he wants. But maybe there is a 0% chance he will change his policy.
At that point you can...
start asking for benefits to comensate for your loss of percieved value. Because now this gym is worth less money to you. You want a Free locker, Free gym classes, A free month membership, free guest passes. Get something back.
Go to another gym, find their policy on treadmill use. get a quote on what'd they'd offer you to switch. Bring this information to your talk.
Avoid...
loseing your cool. You can gently threaten that you know your options with other gyms (and tell them), but you'd prefer to stay. But once you give an ultimatiom (example. 60 full minutes or i quit), you end negotioation. And if you dont want to switch gyms, dont say that.
Meet the language of the gym, expolit their needs and wants, if they sell themseleves as a serious product, tell them you make serious expectations with their product and you need full results.
You can also threaten to go online and write negative reviews of the company, tell your friends your story, create negative image in the community. (If they seek to have an online pressence, that would be signifigant.)
As long as you dont come across like a jerk, but resonable and pratcial, they will like you and meet the needs you ask. Be on their side so they want you there.
I'd rather you just find another gym...you're not worth the trouble
^+1^
Gyms have policies. I presume you signed a contract with your gym stating that you would follow its rules.
Poster, Josh Hamilton is an Angel(as a Rangers fan I hate this name), is giving bad advice. If the gym owner were to change rules for the OP there would be line of people wanting and demanding that the owner bend the rules for them too. Believe me, once you bend the rules for one member, it spreads like wild fire(i.e."I want another week added onto my membership because I was sick last week and I couldn't workout." or "Can my son use my membership while I am out of town?". Owners make their rules and have to stick to them. Don't think for a minute that other members wouldn't notice that the OP is getting special treatment if the owner allowed him to stay on the treadmill longer than 30 minutes.
I worked at various gyms and sports clubs when I was younger, and had this exact situation arise many times.
There is room for discretion--all members should be served well, according to their differing needs.
When I saw someone who who seemed like they were hogging, I'd look at how much time they had left. I never would have interrupted at 54 minutes, I would have explained to the 2 guys waiting that I was going to give him until 60 because he would likely finish by himself. Same with times of, say, close to 40 minutes, which it seemed like people often chose, IIRC.
It wasn't just on the treadmills, either. Everybody understood the benefit of this system, and it was up to me as an employee to mediate between competing interests, in a courteous and calm way. It's really not too hard to bring things down to a simmer for 5 minutes, unless you are a maniac.
After letting someone finish in this fashion, we would ask them what happened, to better understand the situation.
With a half-hour limit on a piece of equipment, people will often hop on, and if there is nobody waiting at the time they finish, they will "start another 30-minute segment" without interruption.
That is certainly a fair way to characterize the situation. Consider this: what if, instead of continuing without interruption so that their clock now reads 54 minutes, they reset the machine so that the clock read 24 minutes instead?
If all the mills were full and someone wanted to use them, there should either be a signup list, or they should take the responsibility of noting who will finish first, and return to the mills at that time, to avoid confusion.
But if somebody shows up when somebody's clock reads 54 minutes, and not before that time, I'd tell them to patiently wait 6 minutes for their turn, and at a later time, interview the person who was running to make sure that they do, in fact, understand the guidelines.
Enjoy your fanny pack and good for you that you can lap me sonny boy.
Sprintgeezer wrote:
I worked at various gyms and sports clubs when I was younger, and had this exact situation arise many times.
There is room for discretion--all members should be served well, according to their differing needs.
When I saw someone who who seemed like they were hogging, I'd look at how much time they had left. I never would have interrupted at 54 minutes, I would have explained to the 2 guys waiting that I was going to give him until 60 because he would likely finish by himself. Same with times of, say, close to 40 minutes, which it seemed like people often chose, IIRC.
It wasn't just on the treadmills, either. Everybody understood the benefit of this system, and it was up to me as an employee to mediate between competing interests, in a courteous and calm way. It's really not too hard to bring things down to a simmer for 5 minutes, unless you are a maniac.
After letting someone finish in this fashion, we would ask them what happened, to better understand the situation.
With a half-hour limit on a piece of equipment, people will often hop on, and if there is nobody waiting at the time they finish, they will "start another 30-minute segment" without interruption.
That is certainly a fair way to characterize the situation. Consider this: what if, instead of continuing without interruption so that their clock now reads 54 minutes, they reset the machine so that the clock read 24 minutes instead?
If all the mills were full and someone wanted to use them, there should either be a signup list, or they should take the responsibility of noting who will finish first, and return to the mills at that time, to avoid confusion.
But if somebody shows up when somebody's clock reads 54 minutes, and not before that time, I'd tell them to patiently wait 6 minutes for their turn, and at a later time, interview the person who was running to make sure that they do, in fact, understand the guidelines.
Where is the fun in that?
Michael Eskind has a pretty nice fanny pack. That's where the fun's at people.
While we're on this subject
http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=2027828&page=0
Next time tell the kid he's cute and he can disturb you any time he wants.
Seriously don't hate on this kid. I had a job like that this past summer where I basically just did what my superiors told me to do, and also had to cater to other customer's complaints. It's not his fault, he was just doing his job, and it sounds like he was being very professional about it.
You should have just said you only had 6 minutes left and I can tell you, he would have just left you alone.
Sorry OP, but no sympathy here.
Overweight and out of shape people often complain that they don't work out because they are made to feel unwelcome and out of place in gyms by people who are in shape. Fit people complain about the out of shape customers taking up machines, and in the same breath, criticize people for being out of shape. Which way do we want it, for pete's sake? Be encouraging, not discouraging. As runners, aren't we supposed to be advocates for exercise, at least in some small way?
And by the way... join a gym with an indoor track, and use it in cases of extreme emergency. They aren't ideal, but there's no waiting line. You can do 30 on the treadmill, then 30 on the track.
Don't know if this has been mentioned, but if the gym is crowded, and you see a treadmill open up midway through your run, you could switch treadmills. Then you have a fresh time going and a new treadmill. Then they can't kick you off. You'd be like two different users using the treadmill for 30 min each.
I had to use this system all the time in college when I was hurt and had to use elliptical machines and stationary bikes. Once did 90 min on three different machines, but was "obeying" the rules of only 30 min.
The problem with overweight and out of shape people is that they are wasting their time on the treadmill. They aren't losing any weight while slogging.
Much better off investing that time in doing compound lifts.
THIS PUNK Arse OP AINT NO REAL MAN. I THINK WE NEED CLARIFICATION ON THE CRITERIA DEFINING a REAL MAN.
you should have been listening to music while on the treadmill and when the kid came to disturb you, just hold up 1 finger like you're about to be done and finish your workout