Josh Mcdougal

Physical Therapy Guy wrote:

I'll explain the loss of coordination in a leg from a Physical Therapy stand point.

When one gets an injury to any part of their body, another part of the body also shuts down its functioning.

A better way of explaining it is when one part is hurt/unstable (maybe don't even feel pain), another part of the body must compensate to stabilize the body. That compensation may be maladaptive, lead to overuse/stress, and possible nerve pinchings or other injuries (~the "loss of coordination"). It's almost like trying to drive a car with a flat tire (or two flat tires on the same side!). Kinetic chain. So if something is not right, it's need to be taken care of ASAP.

douglas burke wrote:

i am very confused, how can an NCAA cross country champion who has run a 3:40 for 1500, a 3:57 mile and a 13:20 for 5k on the track, who because of his traning of over 15 miles a day in singles would seem to add up to a very good marathoner, i am thinking 2:05-2:07 for the marathon potential, how can he not get a sponsor? there are certainly many runners sponsored without his credentials, certainly hansons or mcmillan elite or team minnesota could sponsor him, he has more potential than anyone on those teams.

out of college he really is in the teg, solinsky, hall category, why no sponsor.

i am very curious.

Any of those groups would certainly allow McDougal to join. But that doesn't seem to be McDougal's style. I don't think he wants to be in any of those groups.

And once he gets healthy, and begins to race again, he will get another sponsor. Nike, or whoever, can't just sponsor him indefinitely. It wouldn't be a profitable decision.

I hope he gets healthy, gets his sponsor back, and runs awesome, though.

That's what I was trying to say. Someone from Nike probably just said, "Look, we can't keep you on right now because you're not running but you're welcome back when you put up some decent performances." I agree that it doesn't seem like his style to be in an Oregon Project type of group but if he did join out of college I think he would still have his sponsor.

People cheer for Josh because of his character and his pursuit of living beyond the framework of this world. If everything has crashed and fallen around him and he is still faithful to his God...then that will be sublime.

ak4runnin wrote:

i thought i strained my hammy 6months ago. but this damn thing wont go away. now im having achilles problems bc its getting over worked trying to make up for my hammy. does this sound about like the neuromuscular thing?

I also strained my hamstring awhile back and now it gives out on me whenever I go fast. My leg just starts locking up and shooting out to the side. This sucks really bad seeing as I'm 19 and was planning to break 15:00 on the track this outdoor season. My coach doesn't really know that I have a bum leg but he'll figure it out as soon as he makes us run a tempo as a team. I'm scared I'm going to lose my scholarship. I've been thinking alot about this and if it doenst get better I'm just going to start running ultas where I wouldn't have to run a pace that made my leg lose coordination.

why are you guys highjacking this thread? go to the never ending Lossof coordination in leg thread and hash it out.

Josh.... You are a stud and america would love to see the comeback of a superstar.

Nice to hear there is an article coming out about him in the next issue of Running Times. Will definitely be picking that one up.

Sciatica would make one leg be weak.

eventually, high mileage become a ticking time bomb. you can see it in any number of young prodigies that fizzle over time. like a car, your body can only take so much before it breaks down

You are a retard and do not understand running. Go read the loss of coordination thread. That type of injury can happen on 40 miles a week or 140 miles a week.

I've had the loss of coordination problem. It is real and it is a career ender. I hate to say it but Josh and Nate Jenkins are both done.

did you have it your whole running career or did it come on suddenly? I agree it's most likely over.

been there done it wrote:

I've had the loss of coordination problem. It is real and it is a career ender. I hate to say it but Josh and Nate Jenkins are both done.

From his facebook in reply to this thread:

"haha... i had not seen that... to be honest ive not been on letsrun since... gosh... JR year maybe...kinda scary that someone posted that George McDonald quote from my facebook... i only put that thing up 4 days ago...even better they think its connected to my contract/nike deal...its just about life/faith in general.... although that includes running it actually came from a great convo I had with Clint Jackson while I was visiting colorado springs..."

Hopefully, Josh is as level-headed about this as he seems. He accomplished about as much as any collegiate runner ever could, winning the NCAA XC championship and running 13:20. And he probably had his education paid for, which is about the best one can strive for. But for a very elite and lucky few, running is a very high risk, low reward endeavor in terms of a career. Life may have put Josh on a different path than he had originally planned, as happens to most, but how he handles it determines his true grit and character. There's so much more to life than the self-obsession that's competitive distance running, most importantly living a full and productive life and serving others.

it came on suddenly, I think it was caused by an imbalance due to knee surgery and other injuries. I took a year off and it seems to have cleared up, though I probably haven't run hard enough to bring it on. I also developed my own thoughts on how it is related to form, etc, and that seemed to help me, though I know for a fact that they have not worked for other sufferers.

It has affected me greatly just working out and racing at a recreational/locally competetive level, so I can't imagine anyone being able to compete at the elite level with this problem.

I think the issue brought on by imbalances and it requires form changes and serious time off to go away. Running through it makes it worse, which is why Nate Jenkins and Josh haven't really had success. I guess Nate is having surgery to try and fix it so it will be interesting to see how that works for him.