Largely disagree with you Sagarin and Lance, whoever he is. The guy is right and you've just repeated a lot of what he said. No way is Ritz medaling in the 5 or 10. Do you guys even have a clue of how fast the run? Ritz cannot maintain that pace. By the way, his 60:00 half suggests that he's much faster over the marathon. Same arguement as your 12:56 suggests a faster 10,000.
I would agree and say that I think Ritz' best chance of medaling in 2012 is in the marathon. Does he have the 5k credentials time wise? Yes, and that time could translate well to a 10k, but much more can happen over the course (pun intended) of 26.2 miles than what can happen in an event of 5000-10000m.
I will also go on to say that in honesty, Ritz' best chance of medaling in 2012 is in whatever event he has the most confidence in his abilities. We can say he should do this or that event, but we have no idea what internal demons, horrors, and insecurities he may be dealing with in his mind. He may be afraid of the marathon and that time and very confident as the former american record holder at 5000m. He also could not be confident in his kick but know he has the strength in the marathon. We wont know until that day he makes his declaration for events.
I think at this point we should all hope he stays healthy and injury free and also hope that God guides Ryan Hall to some good training.
I totally agree with mirror man(?) and most everything he said in his loooooooong post.
But I will say what a waste of time dude. You did a fine job of explaining and I really agree with your analysis on Meb, but those others guys never responded, so was it worth it?
They probably agree, but you must be new here 'cause people don't come back when you're right. Truthslayer just regurgitated what you said as did sagaman(?). If you stick around LR long enough, you'll learn. Sir Lance is quite full of himself and will argue his point to no end even when he's been soundly beat.
one up man wrote:
Truthslayer just regurgitated what you said as did sagaman(?). If you stick around LR long enough, you'll learn. Sir Lance is quite full of himself and will argue his point to no end even when he's been soundly beat.
Wow, you really think I just repeated his theory? I staunchly advocate Ritz NOT running the marathon in 2012 and leaving it for after that, WHETHER or not he has a chance of medaling on the track, which I don't think he does. But he's a much better track runner than marathon runner to date, and even if he "pops" one, that doesn't give any indication that he wouldn't crap out, as per usual, in London. He's not getting a medal no matter what, but if he's a 26:50 guy and it's not a ridiculously slow affair, then maybe he has a chance.
Ritz, quit dicking with your form, and contact Vigil if you want to run marathons. Yes, Hansons, McMillan, and Hudson (you) all have their 2:10 guy, but Mahon, consulted by Vigil, produced a 2:06 guy, and Larsen, consulted by Vigil, produced a 2:09 guy and silver medalist, while Vigil himself coached Deena to an AR and an Olympic bronze. Frankly, your PRs are because of the base you built under Hudson anyway, with a little sharpening and recognition of your REAL talent on the track, aided by an altitude tent and other gadgets.
Sagarin wrote:
Wow, you really think I just repeated his theory? ....
Sagarin, I think this thread is dead. I have a strong hunch that besides you and me, most of the last several posts have been from the same person. Although some points were valid, I think he is getting a little weird with the multiple personality thing now.
Sir Lance-alot wrote:
Sagarin, I think this thread is dead. I have a strong hunch that besides you and me, most of the last several posts have been from the same person. Although some points were valid, I think he is getting a little weird with the multiple personality thing now.
I have a hunch your hunch is correct. And I really do hope Ritz runs a stellar 10,000 in 2011.
I have known Dathan for years and I promise you that he will never ask Dr. Joe Vigil for advice when it comes to the marathon. Dathan is in a good place right now and there are several people that he trusts when it comes to the marathon and Dr. Joe Vigil is not one of them.
If you guys are coaches, Sagarin and Sir Lance-alot, you guys don't know what you are talking about. His Meb comparison was right on. No, I'm not whoever the poster was, but I support him and not you. What a bunch of blow hards. If one of you are coach Vigil, as implied, I have lost all faith in you, what little I had.