I've realized that I'm never going to get married

Steven R wrote:

The fact that I posted this on a public forum is a sign that I'm NOT taking this too seriously. If this was something that was dragging me down I'd be looking for ways to change or seeking help from more qualified individuals. Instead, I was simply looking for what other runners had to say.

And then belittling everything they say. You're right. It's not that complicated.

dukerdog wrote:

Steven R wrote:

The fact that I posted this on a public forum is a sign that I'm NOT taking this too seriously. If this was something that was dragging me down I'd be looking for ways to change or seeking help from more qualified individuals. Instead, I was simply looking for what other runners had to say.

And then belittling everything they say. You're right. It's not that complicated.

Wrong. The only posters I've "belittled" were the ones who have questioned my honesty and/or self-reflection.

This thread is the longest relationship you have had in a while.

[quote]Steven R wrote:

- I do not drink alcohol

- I do not want children

- I'm an atheist

- I'm a libertarian

- I have severe holotois

man I kill me

You mean the ones who said you might be wrong?

Stater of the Oblivious wrote:

This thread is the longest relationship you have had in a while.

Ha, you might be right. I do appreciate the responses, namely those who have been in similar situations.

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I was just wondering why you think theism and atheism are silly? If your an atheist then i can understand why you would think theism is silly, if you believe in god then you would find atheism silly, but im just wondering why you included them both? Unless your arguing that trying to figure out whether there is or isn't a god is silly.

That was kind of my point. I was saying that gnosticism is silly, regardless of whether it comes in theist or atheist forms.

Agnostic theists are atheists both accept that their beliefs are founded upon premises that can't be proven, and therefore should not spout their beliefs as fact, or beliefs contrary to theirs as fiction. When you operate under an unproven premise and treat is as cold hard fact, you become an idiot (though arguing premises is as the heart of any good debate :D ).

1) The no alcohol thing is no big deal. Lots of people don't drink, and especially if you don't mind if she does, then I don't see an issue.

2) Not wanting children is also not a major issue, ESPECIALLY as you get past 30...you'll meet more and more women who have decided that they don't want children (gotten into a career and/or lilfe style they like and realize the clock is ticking on having a healthy baby and they've decided they want nothing of it...find MORE of that when the single women you'd date are over 30 than under 30).

3) LOTS of atheists don't want children. I know several couples who have decided not to have children and are atheists. Many people who "find" religion do so after they've had children.

4) Libertarian? Big deal, unless you constantly denigrate anyone who isn't one.

Dude, you can find a woman who will either match all these qualities or will decide to ignore them if you really want to.

Go to a dating web site and plug in your preferences. You just might find a woman who is right there with you with regard to all of that. It's not that out there brother...it really isn't.

Have you even thought of trying internet dating? Since your pool of women is going to be small and thus hard to locate, you might try and use some sort of dating site.

Also, you would be best to hang around NASA or some place where hard evidence overrides belief. You need to find a scientist of some sort. Although, she might be above your pay grade. But those women are so into their careers, that children are the last thing on their minds.

Saying "never" when you haven't even begun to explore every avenue is pitiful. If you really want to find someone, keep working at it. Otherwise, take your pity party elsewhere.

Flagpole, you would think that political leanings are not that big a deal, but as I mentioned before, I live in D.C., and this is a major issue for women I meet. I avoid talking about politics (and religion) at all costs, but as a relationship progresses, these subjects come up.

The poster who mentioned women working at NASA might be onto something. I would be very interested in meeting women who work in the scientific community. I just haven't met any single ones yet.

sounds like you:

- have a sh*t personality

- are self-centered

- are not very attractive

- all of the above

part B wrote:

sounds like you:

- have a sh*t personality

- are self-centered

- are not very attractive

- all of the above

Ah, the high schoolers are getting out of bed.

I am exactly the same, except I like kids

Married @ 42 to a 27yr old woman. There is no rush, and your thoughts about what marriage is, and your expectations of it for yourself, changes as you get older.

I predict you will be a big hit with the divorcees when you get into your mid and late 30s. Keep running, being even moderately fit gives you a huge edge over the rest of the dating pool.

The political thing, that seems like the only one that is a big hinderance and it is based on your location. I don't have a strong political identity but generally lean libertarian. I have no preference though in political identity in somebody I date but have found a lot of women are very liberal and very outspoken about it. That gets a little wearying.

I think you'll never get married because you have the personality of a dead moth.

Steven R wrote:

- I'm an atheist

Getting married should be the least of your worries.

Eternity is a very long time.

Sorry but you seem like the problem, not your views. I have met lots of women who either fit your "list" or couldn't care less about your list.

The fact that you think you are so special and you think you have such hard to accept characteristics demonstrates that you are one of these self centered people who thinks they are unique. This likely makes you a pain to hang out with.

Also, making a statement like "I am never getting married" demonstrates a childlike certainty about the world and your future. I suspect your lack of intellect and openess to future possibility is also a turn off.

And stop saying women in "DC" are the problem: i.e. religious, drinking, anti-libertarian baby machines. DC is a prime place to meet open minded, anti-big government, athiest career women who don't want kids - other than NY and Cali, I can't think of a better place to do so.

i tried marriage in my 20's. didn't take. i wouldn't do it again. you and i share some similar beliefs (i don't want kids, and i'm an athiest). that said, i most certainly DO like to party, and i'm about as left-wing politically as you can get without being deported. my solution? i pretty much only date girls in their early-mid 20's (i'm 38). at that stage of the game, they are into partying, not being too serious, wayyy too young to feel their biological clocks ticking, and they are of the generation that is too sophisticated to fall for the whole religion trip. plus, they are generally more politically left than women my age. since i'm a runner, i'm in better shape than most dudes their age, and i'm over the whole 20's angst thing, so they get a somewhat emotionally stable (and financially stable) dude. i realize that this lifestyle isn't for everyone, but you might consider it, if you get older and realize that your priorities are still the same. pity about the drinking thing though.... that WILL limit your opportunities somewhat. just being honest.