He hit an absolute home run of a marathon in Chicago and got a little too excited coming back. All he had to do was sit on the couch and eat pizza for 2 weeks and actually recover.
You’re right, but as I said, he started complaining about his hip back in August and then did a buildup for an American record race. No way an injury gets better under those conditions.
What is the actual injury? I always wondered about him because his running form having in roll the legs/feet quite inward. But he was able to do incredible amount of training so I thought it was not problem.
I guess we need to remember that although he graduated college just a few years ago he will be 30 later in 2026. A decade of your best running is about anyone could ask for.
I would love to see more Americans go right to the marathon after college and get started while they are still 22-23 years old.
Sounds like my evaluation of you was spot on. Thanks for confirming.
People here don’t realize what a snowflake board this is. If you went to a hardcore bodybuilding or martial arts board you wouldn’t last a day without breaking down in tears.
I guess we need to remember that although he graduated college just a few years ago he will be 30 later in 2026. A decade of your best running is about anyone could ask for.
I would love to see more Americans go right to the marathon after college and get started while they are still 22-23 years old.
He always wanted to be a marathoner. I believe that’s why he’s been so successful. His shorter distance times aren’t spectacular, but he just went all in on the Thon early.
Sounds like my evaluation of you was spot on. Thanks for confirming.
People here don’t realize what a snowflake board this is. If you went to a hardcore bodybuilding or martial arts board you wouldn’t last a day without breaking down in tears.
Yes, there are miserable people who try to make themselves feel better by being rude to others in online message boards. That's common knowledge.
It doesn't negate the fact that there are also kind people who might actually be sincere when they offer to help someone. It's obvious you can't tell the difference.
Boston is just 15 weeks away and things aren't looking promising at this point. He tried a bit of running a few days ago, just a half mile of walk/jog, but that's been it. Just lots of time on the arc trainer and pool. It's been about 6 weeks now since the injury. At this point, getting fit for Boston is going to be tough, and maybe not even advisable given the circumstance. Anyone know more about what specifically is going on?
Mantz is a weird guy. After every marathon he takes no time off from running and within two weeks he’s back to workouts. Within a month he’s back to HARD workouts. Then add this marathon he ran with his wife on top of that. Of COURSE he got hurt
I said this on a run the other day and agree 100%. Most people go on vacation, go out to bars with friends, spend a few weeks drinking and hanging out, and do little to no training before slowly easing back in. Since his religion doesn’t allow that, he’s got literally nothing to do besides sit around his house and think about training again. You can only do that for so long before it backfires. It’s not a coincidence that Young, Mantz, and the steepler Rooks—plus a handful of sub-elite guys who try to train with them in that group—are all hurt at the same time. Not a knock on them, just an observation.
Another problem is that their group only trains 6 days a week where most everybody else does 7. They are catching up physically by training harder in the 6 days allowed to them which is brutal, and also be effected psychologically knowing they train 50 days a year less than their competitors. Downvoters begin typing now. Question is, do Young or Mantz have another 2 years in them before the 2028 trials?
I don't know why anyone else isn't talking about this. I guess they prefer the bro science of running form, 6 vs 7 days a week, psychology, and other pointless drivel.
I don't know why anyone else isn't talking about this. I guess they prefer the bro science of running form, 6 vs 7 days a week, psychology, and other pointless drivel.
Be honest y’all Connor was probably done in by his own smartphone and earbuds. I swear I could use an RF pro meter right now and scan around his temples and detect a few hundred thousand hertz of brain attacks on his nerves.
Another problem is that their group only trains 6 days a week where most everybody else does 7. They are catching up physically by training harder in the 6 days allowed to them which is brutal, and also be effected psychologically knowing they train 50 days a year less than their competitors. Downvoters begin typing now. Question is, do Young or Mantz have another 2 years in them before the 2028 trials?
They often run an additional run on Saturday evening of 10 miles or more before taking off on Sunday which also adds additional stress.
Boston is just 15 weeks away and things aren't looking promising at this point. He tried a bit of running a few days ago, just a half mile of walk/jog, but that's been it. Just lots of time on the arc trainer and pool. It's been about 6 weeks now since the injury. At this point, getting fit for Boston is going to be tough, and maybe not even advisable given the circumstance. Anyone know more about what specifically is going on?
Mantz is a weird guy. After every marathon he takes no time off from running and within two weeks he’s back to workouts. Within a month he’s back to HARD workouts. Then add this marathon he ran with his wife on top of that. Of COURSE he got hurt
Just about every elite marathoner does the same thing. Eyestone has been revered on LR, but because Mantz is injured, he suddenly knows less about training a marathoner than your average LR Monday morning quarterback. Some times, injuries just happen.
I know it's hard to skip a payday, but if he's not back to fulltime running by now, he's probably better off skipping Boston. Might be wiser to slowly build back fitness, do some summer racing at various distances, then gear up for a fall marathon.
Don't disagree at all, but, with all the cross training, I feel like he could be in a decent place with 8ish weeks of running -- maybe top-10 Boston but not top-3 threat/possibly 1st American. Feel like in last years conditions he can still run sub-2:10ish off a shortened build, but not be in 2:04/2:05 shape.
I would take a step back though. Think about long term success/durability. I also dk if hammering 10k in the pool each day is helping with this. I guess that's what Eyestone feels good about. Unsure what that much volume is rooted in. Seems to go well beyond normal cross training. Top triathletes are mostly hovering 4k-5k/set 4-5 times/week. He doesn't seem to break things up. Just hammering as fast as he can for what are ultra-swim distances.
I know it's hard to skip a payday, but if he's not back to fulltime running by now, he's probably better off skipping Boston. Might be wiser to slowly build back fitness, do some summer racing at various distances, then gear up for a fall marathon.
Don't disagree at all, but, with all the cross training, I feel like he could be in a decent place with 8ish weeks of running -- maybe top-10 Boston but not top-3 threat/possibly 1st American. Feel like in last years conditions he can still run sub-2:10ish off a shortened build, but not be in 2:04/2:05 shape.
I would take a step back though. Think about long term success/durability. I also dk if hammering 10k in the pool each day is helping with this. I guess that's what Eyestone feels good about. Unsure what that much volume is rooted in. Seems to go well beyond normal cross training. Top triathletes are mostly hovering 4k-5k/set 4-5 times/week. He doesn't seem to break things up. Just hammering as fast as he can for what are ultra-swim distances.
People talk about cross training as though it’s some sort of magic pill. If he has an injury, it is possible that cross training will exacerbate it.
Just because he can still swim doesn’t mean that the swimming is helping heal the injury.
People here don’t realize what a snowflake board this is. If you went to a hardcore bodybuilding or martial arts board you wouldn’t last a day without breaking down in tears.
Yes, there are miserable people who try to make themselves feel better by being rude to others in online message boards. That's common knowledge.
It doesn't negate the fact that there are also kind people who might actually be sincere when they offer to help someone. It's obvious you can't tell the difference.
But you can?
I was just agreeing with another poster who called the guy out for trying to leech off of a Pro. If you don’t like it too fvcking bad.
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