We don’t want cheats and 28 yo men with no verification of proper birth certificates, no mandatory or routine drug testing (or accurate!). At least Europeans can cover this.
Has there ever been a more disgraceful national XC team win than Oklahoma State's? They have shameful recruiting practices AND their runners blatantly cheated. I have no respect for them at all.
Enjoy your trophy, Dave. It means nothing.
I had a family member who ran for OSU a little less than a decade ago and he had nothing nice to say about Smith or the program. He and several of his teammates eventually all walked out on Smith and Smith tried to be vindictive by holding back their transfers at first. This wasn’t recently, but he sounded God awful, like a megalomaniacal comic book villain. Getting mad at the athletes for getting hurt and blaming the whole team when they would lose. The impression I have is that Dave Smith is mostly selfish and willing to take all the credit when the Cowboys win, but zero responsibility when they lose. The unfair foreign recruiting practices don’t surprise me. He sounds like he’s the type who would cheat to win at all costs.
I’m sure Dave is crying because of this thread. As another NCAA trophy gets into the case for OSU the admins look down at the ground because a message board told them the win is meaningless.
When the bonus for winning a national title hits Dave’s bank account, he will feel awful as he looks at new cars to buy knowing some people on the Internet would rather get 11th place as a team with 25 year old Americans.
Reminds me of how John McDonnell once told me “I won over 40 team titles, but none count because we did it with foreigners”
In ancient history Henry Rono was at least 24 and ran circles around Niketown Eugene track stars subsiding on a diet of cheeseburgers and developed a taste for the bottle and even contracted for Nike There were some great white ones and still are but for many reasons the sport and some spokesman's are slipping into irrelevancies
So praise to Pre Mcchesneys and too many to count
These East African athletes like all of us can be nice or nasty
OK state had two Kenyan scorers, so the party is probably not in Iten. I agree that the front pack is now more dominated by foreign athletes (and athletes taking advantage of rules about age limits) than would be ideal. This has waxed and waned over the years. When I was racing in the NCAA back in the 1980s, UTEP took it to the limit.
But (unlike age) it’s hard to come up with a rule that keeps the competition strong, is fair, allows universities (many of them private) to take the students they choose, and does not lead to a field dominated by athletes from the strongest running countries.
It’s definitely a huge drag on opportunities for good HS runners in Iowa of Oklahoma when the scholarships are going to guys who can run 26:xx.
But it’s not obvious at all what rule change would be best. Making the AA slots top 25 overall and top 25 citizens seemed OK?
Apparently Dave Smith tried to get Centro DQed from NCAAs and he has not forgotten, lmao.
In the quote itself Dave Smith is saying if you don't like something, change it. How is Centro's comment a burn in response to that lmao.
Bcs Centro qualified for the 1500 final via the rules and Smith tried to have him DQd. Hence he B!#ched about it rather than getting involved and changing the rules. It's called hypocrisy.
Practically all of them improved at their new colleges and were able to stay healthy, unlike under Smith’s over-intensity one-size-fits-all training approach. He didn’t care about the athletes’ health or development, he just wanted immediate results at their expense.
Say since you are so adamant about defending Smith, answer me this. How did German Fernandez do after his freshman year under Smith? Was he not hurt all the time? Did Smith not completely ruin German Fernandez? You seem to have selective memory in your need to simp for Dave Smith. Seems like you and Dave Smith are the losers and not the determined hard working athletes he ruined over the years.
I’m sure Dave is crying because of this thread. As another NCAA trophy gets into the case for OSU the admins look down at the ground because a message board told them the win is meaningless.
When the bonus for winning a national title hits Dave’s bank account, he will feel awful as he looks at new cars to buy knowing some people on the Internet would rather get 11th place as a team with 25 year old Americans.
Reminds me of how John McDonnell once told me “I won over 40 team titles, but none count because we did it with foreigners”
You are absolutely correct. Dave is laughing all the way to the bank right now because he was able to utilize an unfair system to cheat and steal his way to another win yet again. Ol’ McDonnell probably taught him every slick snake oil salesman trick in the book. Nice insight you have, you Dave Smith simp.
I’m sure Dave is crying because of this thread. As another NCAA trophy gets into the case for OSU the admins look down at the ground because a message board told them the win is meaningless.
When the bonus for winning a national title hits Dave’s bank account, he will feel awful as he looks at new cars to buy knowing some people on the Internet would rather get 11th place as a team with 25 year old Americans.
Reminds me of how John McDonnell once told me “I won over 40 team titles, but none count because we did it with foreigners”
You are absolutely correct. Dave is laughing all the way to the bank right now because he was able to utilize an unfair system to cheat and steal his way to another win yet again. Ol’ McDonnell probably taught him every slick snake oil salesman trick in the book. Nice insight you have, you Dave Smith simp.
Buddy how do you have time to post on Letsrun when you are busy calling ice on the local car wash.
Has there ever been a more disgraceful national XC team win than Oklahoma State's? They have shameful recruiting practices AND their runners blatantly cheated. I have no respect for them at all.
Enjoy your trophy, Dave. It means nothing.
I had a family member who ran for OSU a little less than a decade ago and he had nothing nice to say about Smith or the program. He and several of his teammates eventually all walked out on Smith and Smith tried to be vindictive by holding back their transfers at first. This wasn’t recently, but he sounded God awful, like a megalomaniacal comic book villain. Getting mad at the athletes for getting hurt and blaming the whole team when they would lose. The impression I have is that Dave Smith is mostly selfish and willing to take all the credit when the Cowboys win, but zero responsibility when they lose. The unfair foreign recruiting practices don’t surprise me. He sounds like he’s the type who would cheat to win at all costs.
You are absolutely correct. Dave is laughing all the way to the bank right now because he was able to utilize an unfair system to cheat and steal his way to another win yet again. Ol’ McDonnell probably taught him every slick snake oil salesman trick in the book. Nice insight you have, you Dave Smith simp.
Buddy how do you have time to post on Letsrun when you are busy calling ice on the local car wash.
I have time to post because I own the carwash, along with several other lucrative business ventures, and I give myself and my staff Sundays off since we take in plenty of revenue the other six days per week.
How do you find time to post with your obsessive simping for Dave Smith? It probably takes up most of your day. You spend hours talking to the macaroni Dave Smith replicate statue you made to put at the center of the Smith Shrine which you designed in your narrow spaced closet. You carry Smith’s golf clubs when he wants to play the back nine, and he doesn’t even pay you. You wash Dave Smith’s car for free and he tells you to rotate his tires. You are a pathetic Smith Simp. He could start World War 3 and shake hands with Trump and you would still support him. Take a break from writing your ninety page congratulations letter to Smith (which he will never read) and go outside and exercise for a change.
Buddy how do you have time to post on Letsrun when you are busy calling ice on the local car wash.
I have time to post because I own the carwash, along with several other lucrative business ventures, and I give myself and my staff Sundays off since we take in plenty of revenue the other six days per week.
How do you find time to post with your obsessive simping for Dave Smith? It probably takes up most of your day. You spend hours talking to the macaroni Dave Smith replicate statue you made to put at the center of the Smith Shrine which you designed in your narrow spaced closet. You carry Smith’s golf clubs when he wants to play the back nine, and he doesn’t even pay you. You wash Dave Smith’s car for free and he tells you to rotate his tires. You are a pathetic Smith Simp. He could start World War 3 and shake hands with Trump and you would still support him. Take a break from writing your ninety page congratulations letter to Smith (which he will never read) and go outside and exercise for a change.
Just checked the IP on this. You are sending this from your mom basement. No one would call a car wash a lucrative business. As it has one of the highest failure rates in the country.
Congrats on cosplaying on the internet. You so tough
I have time to post because I own the carwash, along with several other lucrative business ventures, and I give myself and my staff Sundays off since we take in plenty of revenue the other six days per week.
How do you find time to post with your obsessive simping for Dave Smith? It probably takes up most of your day. You spend hours talking to the macaroni Dave Smith replicate statue you made to put at the center of the Smith Shrine which you designed in your narrow spaced closet. You carry Smith’s golf clubs when he wants to play the back nine, and he doesn’t even pay you. You wash Dave Smith’s car for free and he tells you to rotate his tires. You are a pathetic Smith Simp. He could start World War 3 and shake hands with Trump and you would still support him. Take a break from writing your ninety page congratulations letter to Smith (which he will never read) and go outside and exercise for a change.
Just checked the IP on this. You are sending this from your mom basement. No one would call a car wash a lucrative business. As it has one of the highest failure rates in the country.
Congrats on cosplaying on the internet. You so tough
I checked your IP, and you are posting from your Smith Shrine 5’x5’ closet. Don’t want to be too far away from your idol I guess. My car wash is quite a success along with several other car washes I own. I own a whole franchise chain of car washes; along with some restaurants, hotels, rental stores, and gas stations.
As for cosplaying, I am no match for you. You dress up as the Cowboys mascot and attend all of their races. You ask Smith for a picture and autograph and every time he turns you down. He tells you has enough simps and doesn’t need another obsessive fan and that you look like an idiot in that stupid costume. Then you cry in your POS car on your way back to your tent in the woods. “Dave doesn’t like me. He hates me. Waaah 😭”.
I have a question....Does anyone else notice the voting numbers can auto double, triple or more the opposite of what you select on this website? Constantly! It is so obvious how corrupt all of this is. Im sure I am having conversations with AI bots programmed to counter anything of truth. What a Croc. More so all the time. Oh well, maybe I help save one poor soul out there looking to correspond with real people. Fake news is real.