Joshua Cheptegei's third marathon is Sunday in Amsterdam. Can he finally run a good one? Predictions?

rojo · 2025-10-17T23:30:24-04:00

A year ago, if we told you that Joshua Cheptegei - the world record holder in the 5000 and 10,000 and two-time Olympic champion on the track would only have a 2:05:59 marathon pb - would only have a 2:05:59 marathon pb (London 2025) after running 2:08:59 in his debut (2024 Valencia) we doubt you'd believe us.But that's the reality. The first two have gone so poorly, he's running Amsterdam this weekend where he'll take on a field that includes Gabriel Geay (2:03:00 pb) and defending champ Tsegaye Getachew (2:04:49 pb).Do you think he will turn around his marathon career this weekend? Predicitons?[b]Leading entries [/b] [b] Men[/b] Gabriel Geay (TAN) 2:03:00 Getaneh Molla (ETH) 2:03:34 Andualem Shiferaw (ETH) 2:04:44 Tsegaye Getachew (ETH) 2:04:49 Bute Gemechu (ETH) 2:04:51 Bazezew Asmare (ETH) 2:04:57 Geoffrey Toroitich (KEN) 2:05:46 Joshua Cheptegei (UGA) 2:05:59 Muktar Edris (ETH) 2:05:59 Kenya Sonota (JPN) 2:05:59 Enock Kinyamal (KEN) 2:06:28 Lameck Too (KEN) 2:06:29 Merhawi Kesete (ERI) 2:06:36 Masresha Bere (ETH) 2:06:44 Afewerk Mesfin (ETH) 2:07:08 Boki Diriba (ETH) 2:07:13 Khalid Choukoud (NED) 2:07:37 Godadaw Belachew (ISR) 2:07:45 Mesfin Niguse (ETH) 2:07:58 Phil Sesemann (GBR) 2:08:04 Haftom Welday (GER) 2:08:24 Shadrack Kimining (KEN) 2:08:29 Benson Tunyo (KEN) 2:08:36 Takashi Ichida (JPN) 2:08:57 Aron Kifle (ERI) 2:09:39 Tadesse Getahon (ISR) debut Daniel Tola (ETH) debut [b] Women[/b] Lonah Salpeter (ISR) 2:17:45 Tiruye Mesfin (ETH) 2:18:35 Bosena Mulate (ETH) 2:19:00 Zeineba Yimer (ETH) 2:19:07 Yebrugual Melese (ETH) 2:19:36 Desi Jisa (BRN) 2:20:07 Waganesh Mekasha (ETH) 2:20:44 Bertukan Welde (ETH) 2:20:55 Gadise Mulu (ETH) 2:20:59 Zinah Senbeta (ETH) 2:21:05 Aynalem Desta (ETH) 2:22:11 Vivian Melly (KEN) 2:22:25 Rose Chelimo (BRN) 2:23:12 Mekides Shimeles (ETH) debuthttps://worldathletics.org/competitions/world-athletics-label-road-races/news/amsterdam-marathon-2025-getachew-cheptegei

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7 months ago 10/19/2025 11:13am EDT

re: 37..

37.. wrote:
THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:
Yeah if we’re being honest the 25-year-old winner Toirotich was just 13s ahead of Chep in his debut in Tokyo. Now in marathon race #2 he breaks 2:04 convincingly and gaps him by almost 90 seconds. Which guy is more believable to win majors one day? It’s definitely Toirotich, if it was going to happen for Chep to be a stud marathoner it’d have happened by now.
Kipchoge took to it like a natural like nobody before. But he ran the WR at age 37 after a very accomplished junior track career

You can argue that the Marathon distance is more competitive and talented now because of Kipchoge’s success.

7 months ago 10/19/2025 12:01pm EDT

re: rojo

Cheptegai equaled the #194 marathon time ever. If he were running the 10000, the equivalent performance wouldn't even be under 27 minutes.

It has been more than five years since he ran his WRs in the 5000 and 10000. He is probably not as fast as he once was.

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7 months ago 10/19/2025 1:05pm EDT

re: rojo

rojo wrote:
Top results.
Men
Pos | Name | Nat | Finish | Half
------------------------------------------------------------
1 | Geofry Toroitich Kipchumba | KEN | 02:03:30 | 1:02:15
2 | Tsegaye Getachew | ETH | 02:04:18 | 1:02:15
3 | Getaneh Molla | ETH | 02:04:19 | 1:02:15
4 | Gabriel Geay | TAN | 02:04:36 | 1:02:14
5 | Joshua Cheptegei | UGA | 02:04:52 | 1:02:14
6 | Bazezaw Asmare | ETH | 02:05:17 | 1:02:15
7 | Bute Gemechu | ETH | 02:06:12 | 1:02:15
8 | Aron Kifle | ERI | 02:07:12 | 1:03:52
9 | Tadesse Getahon | ISR | 02:07:15 | 1:03:53
10 | Phil Sesemann | GBR | 02:07:18 | 1:03:52
11 | Lameck Too | KEN | 02:07:21 | 1:02:14
12 | Merhawi Kesete | ERI | 02:07:27 | 1:03:53
13 | Khalid Choukoud | NED | 02:08:00 | 1:03:53
14 | Enock Kinyamal | KEN | 02:08:12 | 1:03:05
15 | Nils Voigt | GER | 02:08:22 | 1:03:53
16 | Kenya Sonota | JPN | 02:08:33 | 1:02:15
17 | Godadaw Belachew | ISR | 02:08:46 | 1:03:53
18 | Benson Tunyo | KEN | 02:09:01 | 1:02:15
19 | Daniel Tola | ETH | 02:09:55 | 1:03:53
20 | Andualem Shiferaw | ETH | 02:10:35 | 1:02:14
21 | Gianluca Assorgia | NED | 02:12:47 | 1:05:45
22 | Stan Niesten | NED | 02:13:40 | 1:06:49
23 | Bas Stigter | NED | 02:14:09 | 1:07:43
24 | Frank Futselaar | NED | 02:14:22 | 1:06:49
25 | Jonatan Venema | NED | 02:15:05 | 1:07:43
26 | Joris Keppens | BEL | 02:15:08 | 1:05:45
27 | Manuel de Backer | NED | 02:15:24 | 1:07:44
28 | Lucas Nieuweboer | NED | 02:16:00 | 1:07:43
29 | Takashi Ichida | JPN | 02:16:03 | 1:04:00
30 | Jeremy Belkacem | FRA | 02:16:05 | 1:05:45
31 | Ivan Gorlanov | RUS | 02:16:41 | 1:09:10
32 | William Hague | USA | 02:16:41 | 1:09:11
33 | Luc Essink | NED | 02:16:44 | 1:07:43
34 | Ruben Sansom | NED | 02:17:34 | 1:09:12
35 | Richard Douma | NED | 02:17:37 | 1:09:10
36 | Emiel Berghout | NED | 02:17:47 | 1:09:11
37 | Kevin Quinn | GBR | 02:17:57 | 1:09:10
38 | Pim Bijl | NED | 02:18:33 | 1:09:12
39 | Marco van Etten | NED | 02:19:08 | 1:09:12
40 | Daan Reintjes | NED | 02:19:26 | 1:09:11
41 | Julien Péché | FRA | 02:19:45 | 1:10:29
42 | Tony Hanna | LBN | 02:19:46 | 1:10:28
43 | Max Parker | GBR | 02:19:55 | 1:10:24
44 | Mees de Ridder | NED | 02:20:15 | 1:10:02
45 | Stijn Burghoorn | NED | 02:20:43 | 1:11:07
46 | Brent Pieterse | NED | 02:22:44 | 1:11:43
47 | Miroslav Spasov | BUL | 02:22:51 | 1:09:11
48 | Freek van de Weerd | NED | 02:22:54 | 1:10:03
49 | Maxime Michel | BEL | 02:22:55 | 1:10:23
50 | Luuk Maas | NED | 02:22:55 | 1:11:07
Women:
Pos | Name | Nat | Finish | Half
----------------------------------------------------------
1 | Aynalem Desta | ETH | 02:17:37 | 1:09:11
2 | Bertukan Welde | ETH | 02:17:56 | 1:09:11
3 | Mekides Shimeles | ETH | 02:19:56 | 1:09:11
4 | Waganesh Mekasha | ETH | 02:20:26 | 1:09:11
5 | Gadise Mulu | ETH | 02:21:04 | 1:09:11
6 | Bosena Mulatie | ETH | 02:21:23 | 1:09:11
7 | Rose Chelimo | BRN | 02:22:55 | 1:11:07
8 | Margaux Sieracki | FRA | 02:25:50 | 1:13:29
9 | Zinah Senbeta | ETH | 02:27:32 | 1:11:15
10 | Louise Small | GBR | 02:27:51 | 1:14:49
11 | Anne Luijten | NED | 02:28:28 | 1:14:49
12 | Jill Holterman | NED | 02:29:02 | 1:14:49
13 | Mikky Keetels | NED | 02:31:23 | 1:13:30
14 | Chelsea Baker | GBR | 02:32:31 | 1:16:33
15 | Elizeba Franken-Cherono | NED | 02:33:41 | 1:16:51
16 | Kuba Alemu | ETH | 02:33:59 | 1:12:46
17 | Lisan Duijvestijn | NED | 02:39:30 | 1:20:01
18 | Hannah Olde Loohuis | NED | 02:40:39 | 1:20:52
19 | Ingrid Klaassen | NED | 02:41:55 | 1:21:14
20 | Jasmijn Sibma | NED | 02:42:09 | 1:21:15
21 | Tineke Heuveling | NED | 02:42:29 | 1:21:14
22 | Hinde Fokkema | NED | 02:43:41 | 1:23:52
23 | Eira Rapp | NOR | 02:44:55 | 1:22:19
24 | Sanne Mooldijk | NED | 02:45:10 | 1:22:51
25 | Emilie Tissot | FRA | 02:45:14 | 1:21:24
26 | Nella Oenema | NED | 02:45:38 | 1:24:12
27 | Saskia Weinans | NED | 02:45:52 | 1:22:25
28 | Camilla-Marie Flaaten | NOR | 02:46:00 | 1:21:21
29 | Shibeal Mc Cann | IRL | 02:46:05 | 1:22:52
30 | Floortje Cieraad | NED | 02:46:37 | 1:23:18
31 | Femke Yska | NED | 02:46:41 | 1:23:52
32 | Joelle Flueck | SUI | 02:47:07 | 1:23:34
33 | Mathilde Vinet | FRA | 02:47:43 | 1:25:56
34 | Anna Morsink | NED | 02:47:58 | 1:26:50
35 | Charline Micoud | FRA | 02:48:16 | 1:23:09
36 | Nynke Altena | NED | 02:49:31 | 1:26:03
37 | Lucy Morrison | GBR | 02:51:17 | 1:28:59
38 | Maria Noordam | NED | 02:51:19 | 1:25:21
39 | Annemarie Kersbergen | NED | 02:51:51 | 1:26:07
40 | Suzanne Boekestijn | NED | 02:52:18 | 1:22:27
41 | Merle Lambregts | NED | 02:52:50 | 1:27:17
42 | Ingrid Versteegh | NED | 02:52:59 | 1:26:47
43 | Leila van der Pal | NED | 02:53:14 | 1:26:09
44 | Elizabeth Allen | GBR | 02:53:27 | 1:26:05
45 | Tara Muijlwijk | NED | 02:53:31 | 1:28:27
46 | Anniek van Eijkern | NED | 02:53:35 | 1:27:42
47 | Clara Planegger | AUT | 02:53:38 | 1:27:57
48 | Lorraine Ravestein | NED | 02:53:59 | 1:27:17
49 | Joline van Arnhem | NED | 02:54:10 | 1:27:44
50 | Berber Swart | NED | 02:54:22 | 1:27:07
more results with 5km splits here:
TCS Amsterdam Marathon | 19-10-2025
World Athletics race recap:
Link:worldathletics.org/competitions/world-...

good race for sesemann, big or i think

7 months ago 10/19/2025 1:12pm EDT

re: briguy

briguy wrote:
Conor Mantz is a better marathoner than JC. Crazy

I don’t understand how JC is so bad at the thon. Maybe he got off the juice and figured if he switched events, people would think he just isn’t good at the marathon vs stopped doping

7 months ago 10/19/2025 1:16pm EDT

re: Utah Girl Chronicles

Utah Girl Chronicles wrote:
Chepegei should pace Kiplimo to the WR in the marathon. Easy peasy!

his HM is also wanting

7 months ago 10/19/2025 1:21pm EDT

re: nothing4free

How come US runners never run Amsterdam?

7 months ago 10/19/2025 2:32pm EDT

re: briguy

briguy wrote:
briguy wrote:
Conor Mantz is a better marathoner than JC. Crazy
I don’t understand how JC is so bad at the thon. Maybe he got off the juice and figured if he switched events, people would think he just isn’t good at the marathon vs stopped doping

I remember in 2020, fresh of a 5k/10k WR he entered the world half champs and lost to Kiplimo by 30 seconds only placing 4th. His best event was the 10k, with a clear decline going up to the half. It's no surprise he continues to decline going up to the marathon.

To summarize Cheptegei's event ranking is 10k > 5k > Half > Marathon
(Honestly Cheptegei may be better at the 2 mile than the Marathon, his 8:07 is just slightly lower than his 2:04:52 on the WA points scale from a tactical race at PRE )

This post was edited 14 minutes after it was posted.

7 months ago 10/19/2025 2:57pm EDT

re: funruns

funruns wrote:
rojo wrote:
Top results.
Men
Pos | Name | Nat | Finish | Half
------------------------------------------------------------
1 | Geofry Toroitich Kipchumba | KEN | 02:03:30 | 1:02:15
2 | Tsegaye Getachew | ETH | 02:04:18 | 1:02:15
3 | Getaneh Molla | ETH | 02:04:19 | 1:02:15
4 | Gabriel Geay | TAN | 02:04:36 | 1:02:14
5 | Joshua Cheptegei | UGA | 02:04:52 | 1:02:14
6 | Bazezaw Asmare | ETH | 02:05:17 | 1:02:15
7 | Bute Gemechu | ETH | 02:06:12 | 1:02:15
8 | Aron Kifle | ERI | 02:07:12 | 1:03:52
9 | Tadesse Getahon | ISR | 02:07:15 | 1:03:53
10 | Phil Sesemann | GBR | 02:07:18 | 1:03:52
11 | Lameck Too | KEN | 02:07:21 | 1:02:14
12 | Merhawi Kesete | ERI | 02:07:27 | 1:03:53
13 | Khalid Choukoud | NED | 02:08:00 | 1:03:53
14 | Enock Kinyamal | KEN | 02:08:12 | 1:03:05
15 | Nils Voigt | GER | 02:08:22 | 1:03:53
16 | Kenya Sonota | JPN | 02:08:33 | 1:02:15
17 | Godadaw Belachew | ISR | 02:08:46 | 1:03:53
18 | Benson Tunyo | KEN | 02:09:01 | 1:02:15
19 | Daniel Tola | ETH | 02:09:55 | 1:03:53
20 | Andualem Shiferaw | ETH | 02:10:35 | 1:02:14
21 | Gianluca Assorgia | NED | 02:12:47 | 1:05:45
22 | Stan Niesten | NED | 02:13:40 | 1:06:49
23 | Bas Stigter | NED | 02:14:09 | 1:07:43
24 | Frank Futselaar | NED | 02:14:22 | 1:06:49
25 | Jonatan Venema | NED | 02:15:05 | 1:07:43
26 | Joris Keppens | BEL | 02:15:08 | 1:05:45
27 | Manuel de Backer | NED | 02:15:24 | 1:07:44
28 | Lucas Nieuweboer | NED | 02:16:00 | 1:07:43
29 | Takashi Ichida | JPN | 02:16:03 | 1:04:00
30 | Jeremy Belkacem | FRA | 02:16:05 | 1:05:45
31 | Ivan Gorlanov | RUS | 02:16:41 | 1:09:10
32 | William Hague | USA | 02:16:41 | 1:09:11
33 | Luc Essink | NED | 02:16:44 | 1:07:43
34 | Ruben Sansom | NED | 02:17:34 | 1:09:12
35 | Richard Douma | NED | 02:17:37 | 1:09:10
36 | Emiel Berghout | NED | 02:17:47 | 1:09:11
37 | Kevin Quinn | GBR | 02:17:57 | 1:09:10
38 | Pim Bijl | NED | 02:18:33 | 1:09:12
39 | Marco van Etten | NED | 02:19:08 | 1:09:12
40 | Daan Reintjes | NED | 02:19:26 | 1:09:11
41 | Julien Péché | FRA | 02:19:45 | 1:10:29
42 | Tony Hanna | LBN | 02:19:46 | 1:10:28
43 | Max Parker | GBR | 02:19:55 | 1:10:24
44 | Mees de Ridder | NED | 02:20:15 | 1:10:02
45 | Stijn Burghoorn | NED | 02:20:43 | 1:11:07
46 | Brent Pieterse | NED | 02:22:44 | 1:11:43
47 | Miroslav Spasov | BUL | 02:22:51 | 1:09:11
48 | Freek van de Weerd | NED | 02:22:54 | 1:10:03
49 | Maxime Michel | BEL | 02:22:55 | 1:10:23
50 | Luuk Maas | NED | 02:22:55 | 1:11:07
Women:
Pos | Name | Nat | Finish | Half
----------------------------------------------------------
1 | Aynalem Desta | ETH | 02:17:37 | 1:09:11
2 | Bertukan Welde | ETH | 02:17:56 | 1:09:11
3 | Mekides Shimeles | ETH | 02:19:56 | 1:09:11
4 | Waganesh Mekasha | ETH | 02:20:26 | 1:09:11
5 | Gadise Mulu | ETH | 02:21:04 | 1:09:11
6 | Bosena Mulatie | ETH | 02:21:23 | 1:09:11
7 | Rose Chelimo | BRN | 02:22:55 | 1:11:07
8 | Margaux Sieracki | FRA | 02:25:50 | 1:13:29
9 | Zinah Senbeta | ETH | 02:27:32 | 1:11:15
10 | Louise Small | GBR | 02:27:51 | 1:14:49
11 | Anne Luijten | NED | 02:28:28 | 1:14:49
12 | Jill Holterman | NED | 02:29:02 | 1:14:49
13 | Mikky Keetels | NED | 02:31:23 | 1:13:30
14 | Chelsea Baker | GBR | 02:32:31 | 1:16:33
15 | Elizeba Franken-Cherono | NED | 02:33:41 | 1:16:51
16 | Kuba Alemu | ETH | 02:33:59 | 1:12:46
17 | Lisan Duijvestijn | NED | 02:39:30 | 1:20:01
18 | Hannah Olde Loohuis | NED | 02:40:39 | 1:20:52
19 | Ingrid Klaassen | NED | 02:41:55 | 1:21:14
20 | Jasmijn Sibma | NED | 02:42:09 | 1:21:15
21 | Tineke Heuveling | NED | 02:42:29 | 1:21:14
22 | Hinde Fokkema | NED | 02:43:41 | 1:23:52
23 | Eira Rapp | NOR | 02:44:55 | 1:22:19
24 | Sanne Mooldijk | NED | 02:45:10 | 1:22:51
25 | Emilie Tissot | FRA | 02:45:14 | 1:21:24
26 | Nella Oenema | NED | 02:45:38 | 1:24:12
27 | Saskia Weinans | NED | 02:45:52 | 1:22:25
28 | Camilla-Marie Flaaten | NOR | 02:46:00 | 1:21:21
29 | Shibeal Mc Cann | IRL | 02:46:05 | 1:22:52
30 | Floortje Cieraad | NED | 02:46:37 | 1:23:18
31 | Femke Yska | NED | 02:46:41 | 1:23:52
32 | Joelle Flueck | SUI | 02:47:07 | 1:23:34
33 | Mathilde Vinet | FRA | 02:47:43 | 1:25:56
34 | Anna Morsink | NED | 02:47:58 | 1:26:50
35 | Charline Micoud | FRA | 02:48:16 | 1:23:09
36 | Nynke Altena | NED | 02:49:31 | 1:26:03
37 | Lucy Morrison | GBR | 02:51:17 | 1:28:59
38 | Maria Noordam | NED | 02:51:19 | 1:25:21
39 | Annemarie Kersbergen | NED | 02:51:51 | 1:26:07
40 | Suzanne Boekestijn | NED | 02:52:18 | 1:22:27
41 | Merle Lambregts | NED | 02:52:50 | 1:27:17
42 | Ingrid Versteegh | NED | 02:52:59 | 1:26:47
43 | Leila van der Pal | NED | 02:53:14 | 1:26:09
44 | Elizabeth Allen | GBR | 02:53:27 | 1:26:05
45 | Tara Muijlwijk | NED | 02:53:31 | 1:28:27
46 | Anniek van Eijkern | NED | 02:53:35 | 1:27:42
47 | Clara Planegger | AUT | 02:53:38 | 1:27:57
48 | Lorraine Ravestein | NED | 02:53:59 | 1:27:17
49 | Joline van Arnhem | NED | 02:54:10 | 1:27:44
50 | Berber Swart | NED | 02:54:22 | 1:27:07
more results with 5km splits here:
TCS Amsterdam Marathon | 19-10-2025
World Athletics race recap:
Link:worldathletics.org/competitions/world-...
good race for sesemann, big or i think

Maybe he can take the British record next year.

7 months ago 10/19/2025 2:57pm EDT

re: Jgt11

Jgt11 wrote:
briguy wrote:
I don’t understand how JC is so bad at the thon. Maybe he got off the juice and figured if he switched events, people would think he just isn’t good at the marathon vs stopped doping
I remember in 2020, fresh of a 5k/10k WR he entered the world half champs and lost to Kiplimo by 30 seconds only placing 4th. His best event was the 10k, with a clear decline going up to the half. It's no surprise he continues to decline going up to the marathon.
To summarize Cheptegei's event ranking is 10k > 5k > Half > Marathon
(Honestly Cheptegei may be better at the 2 mile than the Marathon, his 8:07 is just slightly lower than his 2:04:52 on the WA points scale from a tactical race at PRE )

Good point. It's just strange to me given the kind of range guys like Kejelcha and even Barega have in comparison, elite from 3k to HM with respectable 1500m speed.

You would think with Cheptegei falling off after 10k he'd have some more demonstrated chops at 1500-3k and not looking like the 5k is "too short" for him at times.

7 months ago 10/19/2025 4:14pm EDT

re: Jogger Hobby

Because it makes way more sense for American pros to run Chicago.

7 months ago 10/19/2025 4:22pm EDT

re: 1500m-enthusiast

1500m-enthusiast wrote:
Jgt11 wrote:
I remember in 2020, fresh of a 5k/10k WR he entered the world half champs and lost to Kiplimo by 30 seconds only placing 4th. His best event was the 10k, with a clear decline going up to the half. It's no surprise he continues to decline going up to the marathon.
To summarize Cheptegei's event ranking is 10k > 5k > Half > Marathon
(Honestly Cheptegei may be better at the 2 mile than the Marathon, his 8:07 is just slightly lower than his 2:04:52 on the WA points scale from a tactical race at PRE )
Good point. It's just strange to me given the kind of range guys like Kejelcha and even Barega have in comparison, elite from 3k to HM with respectable 1500m speed.
You would think with Cheptegei falling off after 10k he'd have some more demonstrated chops at 1500-3k and not looking like the 5k is "too short" for him at times.

Yes but JC has now run 3 marathons and averaged like 2:06:37, and he has progressively gotten faster. Remember Zersenay Tadese had little soeed and he ran 26:37 and ran half marathon world records and he struggled to break 2:10, finishing with a 2:08:46 best, admittedly pre super shoes. So JC’s case is not as baffling as ZT’s.

7 months ago 10/19/2025 4:27pm EDT

re: rojo

I suspect he is faster at 1500 than his PR shows and just never did one at peak

7 months ago 10/19/2025 6:19pm EDT

re: briguy

briguy wrote:
briguy wrote:
Conor Mantz is a better marathoner than JC. Crazy

I may be miscounting, but I think it took Mantz 7 marathons to get under 2:05. JC did it on his third. I know from my marathon days it's a tricky event and all has to go right on the day to do well, for a time like 2:03:30 or below. Mantz in Chicago was smart enough to run his own pace and catch many. Too easy to feel you need to be in the lead group and not run the best pace for your talent and training.

7 months ago 10/19/2025 9:29pm EDT

re: kiowavt

kiowavt wrote:
I may be miscounting, but I think it took Mantz 7 marathons to get under 2:05. JC did it on his third. I know from my marathon days it's a tricky event and all has to go right on the day to do well, for a time like 2:03:30 or below. Mantz in Chicago was smart enough to run his own pace and catch many. Too easy to feel you need to be in the lead group and not run the best pace for your talent and training.

Context does matter a little bit though? Mantz we’d be thrilled if he podiums at Olympics/a major. Cheptegei was a champion and world record holder, so if he’s 2’ slower than Sawe/Kiplomo and running for the minor places, it just doesn’t measure up. For Conner we’d be stoked with that. I didn’t mean to be too negative but becoming an Amos Kipruto type just isn’t the most exciting outcome for JC. Maybe he can get on a hilly course and be Evans Chebet-esque?

7 months ago 10/19/2025 10:39pm EDT

re: Mocazilla

Mocazilla wrote:
Probably should run a hilly tactical course like NYC

I wonder if this is a lot more important statement than we are giving it credit for? Hmm. No idea, but MAYYYYBE?

7 months ago 10/19/2025 10:48pm EDT

re: rojo

Come back to the track, it’s not too late and their isn’t a single dominant 10 runner right now.

7 months ago 10/20/2025 1:49am EDT

re: triplethreshold

triplethreshold wrote:
Come back to the track, it’s not too late and their isn’t a single dominant 10 runner right now.

It's not just about track titles. It's also about getting better at the marathon now and not leave it late like Kipchoge. If one looks at the latter's first few marathons they were not superfast either. Add to that the fact that Cheptegei has won amd set world records on the track he won't improve on, better money on the roads and the prestige of the marathon, it makes sense to try. Even if others have better debutes, which can be for a variety of reasons. Maybe it wasn't his day. It can happen many times. Or maybe the marathon not for him after all. But persistence is key to be sure what's what. Time will tell.

7 months ago 10/20/2025 3:53am EDT

re: THOUGHTSLEADER

What you mean Amos Kipruto type?

7 months ago 10/20/2025 8:24am EDT

re: JerryDirect

JerryDirect wrote:
What you mean Amos Kipruto type?

2:03 PB lots of podiums, but never considered the best guy.

7 months ago 10/20/2025 10:21am EDT

re: THOUGHTSLEADER

Amsterdam has a really impressive and deep international field for a non-major. Maybe the best international field after the majors and Valencia even.

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