Yes, obvious. "Strong and healthy" is laughable. Let me guess: you're a man? The amount of denial among men (and many women for that matter) around this issue is shocking and disheartening. You just don't want to see it when it's staring you in the face. Maybe because there are worse examples that you're judging against.
I've been around the sport longer than you have, and it's obvious. There are degrees to this of course. Immediate hospitalization like the other notable freshman in the race? No. But unhealthy. I could wrap my thumb and middle finger around her bicep, and I have small hands.
She is on the thin side but you are blatantly lying about her biceps.
Old photo, plus she's essentially flexing in it. She looks notably leaner now. How about we look at the photos from yesterday? The main photo in the link below. It's plain as day but you refuse to see it. I didn't post in the recent thread bemoaning that adults are stepping in enough on these issues, but without knowing the tone of the thread I'd say that the principle is correct.
Old photo, plus she's essentially flexing in it. She looks notably leaner now. How about we look at the photos from yesterday? The main photo in the link below. It's plain as day but you refuse to see it. I didn't post in the recent thread bemoaning that adults are stepping in enough on these issues, but without knowing the tone of the thread I'd say that the principle is correct.
Old photo, plus she's essentially flexing in it. She looks notably leaner now. How about we look at the photos from yesterday? The main photo in the link below. It's plain as day but you refuse to see it. I didn't post in the recent thread bemoaning that adults are stepping in enough on these issues, but without knowing the tone of the thread I'd say that the principle is correct.
While it's tempting to think that she should go pro now since she already looks to be capable of winning or placing top three at NCAA xc in her first race as a freshman, that's really premature when what it takes to be successful as a pro is multiple levels beyond what it takes to win in the NCAA, on the women's level. 14:50s shape is not competitive on the world stage. Give her several years and if she is running 14:20s, then consider it. The world record is sub-14 and there are multiple sub-14:10 level talents in the sport right now. There should be no rush for her to go pro and lose what is a great developmental experience, personally, academically, and athletically.
Old photo, plus she's essentially flexing in it. She looks notably leaner now. How about we look at the photos from yesterday? The main photo in the link below. It's plain as day but you refuse to see it. I didn't post in the recent thread bemoaning that adults are stepping in enough on these issues, but without knowing the tone of the thread I'd say that the principle is correct.
She looks lean and like someone who watches what she eats, as you would expect with most runners. I feel like I only really know if you start seeing certain injuries. Time will tell.
In general, eating disorders don’t seem like an issue with BYU teams.
We can never just enjoy record breaking runs, can we?
Old photo, plus she's essentially flexing in it. She looks notably leaner now. How about we look at the photos from yesterday? The main photo in the link below. It's plain as day but you refuse to see it. I didn't post in the recent thread bemoaning that adults are stepping in enough on these issues, but without knowing the tone of the thread I'd say that the principle is correct.
She looks lean and like someone who watches what she eats, as you would expect with most runners. I feel like I only really know if you start seeing certain injuries. Time will tell.
In general, eating disorders don’t seem like an issue with BYU teams.
We can never just enjoy record breaking runs, can we?
Exactly. There is no indication of a history of eating disorders at BYU, and Diljeet makes a huge point about avoiding eating disorders and building strong women with all her “run for her” stuff. Like her or not, I’d trust her with the physical health of runners.
Doesn’t mean it can’t strike anywhere, but the trend is you see all the girls at BYU look stronger over their time at BYU, not skinner.
Having access to private coaching from former elite/ sub elite runners is a privilege for rich kids. If you want this for all runners, middle school on up, please attend your local school board meeting and INSIST on a levy that will raise your property taxes a reasonable amount to cover the cost.
Having access to private coaching from former elite/ sub elite runners is a privilege for rich kids. If you want this for all runners, middle school on up, please attend your local school board meeting and INSIST on a levy that will raise your property taxes a reasonable amount to cover the cost.
Possibly the most retarded thing I've ever read on this website, and that's saying a lot.
All the information about how to properly train for track and field is available for free online, and any coach or parent can study it at any time and learn enough to do it right. Running is perhaps the cheapest sport to succeed at. Most of the best sprinters are poor kids who come from inner city poor schools.
Middle and high school kids don't need a full time professional coach, just a competent one who cares. And many programs are coached by a full time PE teacher whose entire taxpayer-funded salary is based on him/her being a physical education expert and they don't know what they're doing or care to do their job right, or have the curiosity to read anything about running and learn. So more money isn't fixing that. I ran for an idiot like that during cross country and my track coach was a non-teacher former elite runner who did it for free (I went to a public school).
My daughter does to a private school and they have a fairly competent coach who was not an elite runner of any kind, but he does care about the sport enough to do his job right. They never win the state championship (maybe they will this year) mainly because their roster is always light (14 boys and 11 girls on the team this year). The coach is not being paid any kind of big bucks to coach there and has been offered more money by other public schools. You're fooling yourself if you think that private schools care much at all about the cross country program or are throwing any money at it.
In any case, we were talking about Jane Hedengren here. Guess what, she went to a public school, and not one of the big time Utah running programs like Herriman (also a public school). Her success is obviously heavily a product of her father knowing a ton about running and guiding his daughter in the correct way to get the most out of her talent, and her coach either supplementing that or at least not getting in the way. That's literally all that it takes.
You sound like someone who is getting outcoached by a private school near you. Why don't you start reading and learning instead of whining online? Your own poor attitude is why you lose.
Strange comment which is a personal attack. I have coached a state championship XC team and 3.different state champs in track events. I assume that she would set more PRs in the next 10 years if I coached her. I assume that she would set PRs if thousands of different coaches coached her. She is with one of the top coaches anywhere. I predict that she will break NCAA records in many distances due to her talent and the superior coaching that she is receiving.