More likely doing hard core --- sandbagging. You’ve heard of this, right?
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Remeber, the Brits pioneered L-carnitine injections. While the methodology is totally illegal and banned (way over the allowed injectable daily volume), it is totally undetectable and untested for. Taking time off could mean steroid and EPO use, as you would be sparkling clean ater a few weeks or so depending on the substance. Also blood bags could be in the works and a horrid race after pulling the blood would be in the cards. Perfect schedule to build you blood bags rn, micro EPO to fool the reticulocyte test, and steroids to heal any "injuries" while hiding out training in a 3rd world country. No way she is more talented than Athing Mu, Whitaker, Roisin etc and she is 30 meters clear of alll of them!
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Classic Vintage wrote:
Here for an honest discussion wrote:
Context: the article pictured inNote that this article is cosigned by Jenny Meadows who said she provided info for it, so we can assume the timeline to be correct.
August 2024 - Post-Olympic final: "minor knee injury" - shuts down season
Feb 2025 - Pulls out of Keely Klassic due to GRADE THREE left hamstring tear, whilst being in indoor WR shape
May 2025 - According to this article, she has ANOTHER GRADE THREE TEAR.
July-August 2025 - Pulls out of several meets to postpone her opener, comes back after over a year without a race and drops a 1:54.75.
A grade 3 tear is a complete rupture. Gabby Thomas had a grade 2 (less severe) tear before USAs in 2022 and didn't even make the team, which "only" required a 22 flat (which is certainly no 1:54.7). How was Keely able to:
[blah blah]
It appears to me that at the very least her injury stories are heavily exaggerated. The possibility of her having "help" to rehab these so fast time and time again, or these stories just being coverups definitely seems more than 0. Most athletes with these injuries are out for at least a season and sometimes aren't the same after. I'm to believe she had 2 grade 3 tears plus a knee injury and is in WR shape? Please let me know how this makes any sense. Mind you, I've seen people on this forum suspicious of Jonah Koech for taking less time off than this due to a tight hamstring. This is two grade three tears.
According to the NHS website, in the UK a Grade 3 muscle tear is defined as any tear where over 50% of the muscle fibres are damaged. It doesn't mean a "full rupture" in the UK. Its just a serious tear. Even then, I should imagine that the lines between a Grade 2 and Grade 3 tear overlap and they erred on the side of caution.
Clearly, her injury has healed. Clearly, she is a British athlete with a British coach using British healthcare definitions. What is it that you are trying to argue about? She's been out of action for a year. She's young and fast and fresh with a history of racing well in her first race back. Thats different from the heats in a championship event.
So basically, you are attacking her because she's not American and not black, since all your wheedling examples are black athletes and/or American athletes.
Maybe UK middle distance coaching is just better. I'm a British female former middle distance athlete, and even at my relatively ordinary level, it was a problem trying to train when I was based even elsewhere in Europe because the training was so undisciplined or involved too long reps with not enough short fast stuff and long recovery, combined with a failure to do longer stuff in the winter and proper cross country - not running round a grassy field as you do in the US or doing 30 track races a year when I was aged 17-19.
Correct, a grade 3 tear means more than 50%, which does not mean that there is a slice extending more than halfway through the muscle, but rather that like a previously tight braid that has loosened it now has little gaps in various places that compromise its integrity and strength. I myself have had a grade 3 hamstring tear. Though I'm just a middle-aged hobby-jogger, I was able to rehab myself (guided only by YouTube) back to running in a few months and basically back to full strength in maybe 6 months. Given KH's massive advantages as a supreme talent in a world-class training group, it's totally plausible that she could have recovered from this injury as quickly as she did without banned substances.
I do think, however, that if she really has suffered the same injury twice in different legs and rushed back into hard training quickly in both cases, then she is in danger of pushing herself to breaking point soon. An even worse hamstring injury can require surgery and a longer recovery, even in the most elite athletes.
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Here for an honest discussion wrote:
Context: the article pictured inNote that this article is cosigned by Jenny Meadows who said she provided info for it, so we can assume the timeline to be correct.
August 2024 - Post-Olympic final: "minor knee injury" - shuts down season
Feb 2025 - Pulls out of Keely Klassic due to GRADE THREE left hamstring tear, whilst being in indoor WR shape
May 2025 - According to this article, she has ANOTHER GRADE THREE TEAR.
July-August 2025 - Pulls out of several meets to postpone her opener, comes back after over a year without a race and drops a 1:54.75.
A grade 3 tear is a complete rupture. Gabby Thomas had a grade 2 (less severe) tear before USAs in 2022 and didn't even make the team, which "only" required a 22 flat (which is certainly no 1:54.7). How was Keely able to:
a) Go from a knee injury to WR shape from August 2024 - Feb 2025
b) Completely tear her hamstring TWICE then rehab and be in "close to WR shape" (her coach's words) from May - August 2025?
If no-one here is willing to admit that the exact same set of circumstances for Mary Moraa or any other non-western athlete would result in relentless suspicion from this very forum, then I do not think we are being very honest.
Furthermore, is the concept of "race sharpness" something that doesn't apply to Keely? Her past 2 seasons were opened in 1:55 as well, the 2024 one also being off the back of an injury. How is she getting in so much high quality training whilst noticeably injured? Athing Mu said she is currently fit, yet was only able to open to a 2:03 and after injuring her hamstring last year was barely in 1:59 shape, despite arguably being more talented (or at least equally so) than Keely and having everything on the line (Olympic team). A lot is made of the fact that Bobby is coaching her (doping allegations) yet Keely's profile has undoubtedly been more dubious than Mu's, even going back to teenage years.
It appears to me that at the very least her injury stories are heavily exaggerated. The possibility of her having "help" to rehab these so fast time and time again, or these stories just being coverups definitely seems more than 0. Most athletes with these injuries are out for at least a season and sometimes aren't the same after. I'm to believe she had 2 grade 3 tears plus a knee injury and is in WR shape? Please let me know how this makes any sense. Mind you, I've seen people on this forum suspicious of Jonah Koech for taking less time off than this due to a tight hamstring. This is two grade three tears.
FWIW - I suffered two Grade 3 tears in my competitive running life. One time it was my hamstring, the other time it was my quad. Several years apart. In both cases, I was told 6 weeks off running (not 3 months) and in both cases, I felt 'ready to go' in just 2 or 3 weeks (but nonetheless I listened to doctors orders and took the full 6 weeks). In both cases, I rebounded very quickly (as I think the time off of hard training actually does wonders for allowing a full-body recovery/rejunination after years of hard training). So I don't find Keely's recovery that suspicious - especially given that she benefits from a lot of "legal / not-banned" technology/therapy that the rest of us don't get access to.
Note: Im a guy, not world class, but ran faster at 800m than Keely.
Also, I am in my late 40s and had another Grade 3 tear (or at least I suspect it was because it felt the same as the two confirmed ones). No longer competitive but was training for a marathon - same thing... felt good to go after 2 weeks, but in this case I just decided to re-start training after 3 weeks and was fine.
Also, if you're Meadows and ifyou were coaching a doping athlete, why would you publish details about the severity of an injury and the speed of recovery??
Now is it time to talk about Josh Hoey?
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non-african countries have started to compete with african countries for one reason. Started playing the game. if this isn’t completely obvious, you haven’t been following the sport very long.
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xenosys wrote:
This is what Trevor Painter had to say about those injuries in an interview with The Times :
That is a goal to go with the gilded ones. Two laps at the Diamond League’s Polish stopover have firmly re-established her as the favourite to win her first world title in Tokyo, and it was remarkable to see her make a return from a year-long hiatus look so easy when the truth is the road has been long, hard and dotted with potholes.
“It’s been three different things,” explains Painter, whose canny coaching partnership with his wife, Jenny Meadows, has facilitated Hodgkinson’s ascent. “The injury after the Olympics was the bottom of the hamstring on the left leg just behind the knee. The one indoors [in February] was the top of the left hamstring.
“Then we were two weeks out from running in Stockholm in June and the right one did the same thing. They said it was a grade-three tear, but we don’t feel it was. It was fixed a bit quicker than that but the scans always show more and you just have to be sensible and cautious and take your time."I assume the grade three tear is what Painter is referring to at the at end of this quote.
I'm assuming "they" are the medical team responsible for the scan and diagnosis of the hamstring issue.
One thing I guarantee she did is hop on a short flight across to Munich to visit Dr Müller-Wohlfahrt, who has been fixing hamstrings (mostly for the worlds best sprinters) in a jiffy for decades. Very famous in the sport.
I did smile at the thetimes article there talking about the WR. As good as Hodgkinson is (and in the event all is legit here), she is probably the WR holder already even at 1.54.61, there is no snowmans chance in hell she's running under 1.53.28. She's not "in sight" of it at all really - and that is sad and telling, but it's the truth. I think a more realistic lifetime goal for her is breaking 1.54.0 and just having her PR starting with the numbers 1,5 and 3.
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UKInsider wrote:
Your just another one of the salty yanks on here.
The hypocrisy on here is unparralled. Look at what Hocker, Rooks et al did last year - massive, massive PB Improvements in Olympic finals out of NOWHERE.
You all turn the other cheek when it's an american, and accuse the rest of the world.
I don't think the Yanks are salty. They're aware of what looks like dirty and are calling it out. Think about it...all their stars have either tested positive or had issues pop up.
They've had at least 8 global medalists banned and stripped of their medals. That's only the ones who have tested positive, and I'm sure I'm missing some.
Others, like Christian Coleman, Raven Saunders, Randolph Ross, Walter Davis, etc, have had numerous whereabouts failures that led to bans.
Their # 3 1500m and # 5 5k guy had issues with a sample.
Their record holder in the women's 1500 and # 2 in the 5k just served a 4 year ban.Their Olympic medalist in the men's 10k and marathon was part of one of the bigger doping scandals in recent memory, even receiving suspicious items in hollowed out books at one point. His coach (who is banned for life) claims the team physio rubbed testosterone on him while he was in college. The same physio who was implicated in the Justin Gatlin disaster.
Their complete top 3 in the 100m all served bans. Our #6 was just banned this week. I could go on and on. And I didn't even touch on BALCO, on Marion Jones going to Prison, on Trevor Graham, on US coaches sending FBI spouses to drive to Mexico to pick up T for athletes, etc.
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Here for an honest discussion wrote:
Context: the article pictured inNote that this article is cosigned by Jenny Meadows who said she provided info for it, so we can assume the timeline to be correct.
August 2024 - Post-Olympic final: "minor knee injury" - shuts down season
Feb 2025 - Pulls out of Keely Klassic due to GRADE THREE left hamstring tear, whilst being in indoor WR shape
May 2025 - According to this article, she has ANOTHER GRADE THREE TEAR.
July-August 2025 - Pulls out of several meets to postpone her opener, comes back after over a year without a race and drops a 1:54.75.
A grade 3 tear is a complete rupture. Gabby Thomas had a grade 2 (less severe) tear before USAs in 2022 and didn't even make the team, which "only" required a 22 flat (which is certainly no 1:54.7). How was Keely able to:
a) Go from a knee injury to WR shape from August 2024 - Feb 2025
b) Completely tear her hamstring TWICE then rehab and be in "close to WR shape" (her coach's words) from May - August 2025?
If no-one here is willing to admit that the exact same set of circumstances for Mary Moraa or any other non-western athlete would result in relentless suspicion from this very forum, then I do not think we are being very honest.
Furthermore, is the concept of "race sharpness" something that doesn't apply to Keely? Her past 2 seasons were opened in 1:55 as well, the 2024 one also being off the back of an injury. How is she getting in so much high quality training whilst noticeably injured? Athing Mu said she is currently fit, yet was only able to open to a 2:03 and after injuring her hamstring last year was barely in 1:59 shape, despite arguably being more talented (or at least equally so) than Keely and having everything on the line (Olympic team). A lot is made of the fact that Bobby is coaching her (doping allegations) yet Keely's profile has undoubtedly been more dubious than Mu's, even going back to teenage years.
It appears to me that at the very least her injury stories are heavily exaggerated. The possibility of her having "help" to rehab these so fast time and time again, or these stories just being coverups definitely seems more than 0. Most athletes with these injuries are out for at least a season and sometimes aren't the same after. I'm to believe she had 2 grade 3 tears plus a knee injury and is in WR shape? Please let me know how this makes any sense. Mind you, I've seen people on this forum suspicious of Jonah Koech for taking less time off than this due to a tight hamstring. This is two grade three tears.
I take the cynical view that all the pros are doping. Having said that, why is your suspicion that Keely is cheating higher than suspecting anyone else is? A 1:54 off the couch is pretty stunning, but she’s run faster than that once, so it isn’t impossible territory for her by any means. If she’s maintained aerobic fitness and has been totally healthy the past month and hitting workout targets, then it’s not that shocking. She’ freakishly competitive and wants to win everything at all costs. You put her in a forest with a blunt axe, and she’ll chop every tree down for fun, with no pay working twenty hours per day. She’s extremely contentious. So your comparison with Mu is a bad one. Mu is lazy, apathetic, and does in training only exactly what she is told by Kersee and nothing more.
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Membranes wrote:
I take the cynical view that all the pros are doping. Having said that, why is your suspicion that Keely is cheating higher than suspecting anyone else is? A 1:54 off the couch is pretty stunning, but she’s run faster than that once, so it isn’t impossible territory for her by any means. If she’s maintained aerobic fitness and has been totally healthy the past month and hitting workout targets, then it’s not that shocking. She’ freakishly competitive and wants to win everything at all costs. You put her in a forest with a blunt axe, and she’ll chop every tree down for fun, with no pay working twenty hours per day. She’s extremely contentious. So your comparison with Mu is a bad one. Mu is lazy, apathetic, and does in training only exactly what she is told by Kersee and nothing more.
Yeah I agree with the narrative here.
It was a stunning performance, I think most people would have thought even a 1.57 would have been a great start after such a layoff. 1.54 is crazy.
But I've said this before, we forget how easy it is for young athletes to rebound and gain form very quickly coming off breaks. I think even the athletes themselves forget that (I know I did) which is why they get fidgety, come back slightly early, do stupid stuff when they do get back etc. People might look at this and say "well then if she hadn't been hurt what would she have done - run the WR and beaten that dopers time, what does that say" but it doesn't work this way.
I get the feeling though that this is a very smart camp that really knows what they are doing. And it's down to even the little things like watching how she executes these races that tell me this. Little things like being the first women 800m runner to ever execute the brake properly (simply running in a straight line to the 200m point vs a dramatic move straight across) - these things say to me she is coached and is advised very well.
And you're right, there is no comparison with Mu. One athlete wants to be out there, the other one doesn't. One looks engaged and focussed every time she's out there, the other looks she would rather be anywhere but on a oval piece of synthetic polyurethane.
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Makes me laugh when people here say she is hot. She is a plain looking white girl from North West England with big teeth. Plenty of better looking women here.
Also - it's impossible for a grade 3 tear to be resolved that quickly.
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If Valby came back and ran 14:25 what would you guys be saying on here?
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Just lol @ this forum wrote:
Makes me laugh when people here say she is hot. She is a plain looking white girl from North West England with big teeth. Plenty of better looking women here.
Also - it's impossible for a grade 3 tear to be resolved that quickly.
Ever heard of BPC-157? Like magic apparently. Grades are made up, not like they opened up her leg to take a look!
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It's time to take your head out of your butt....
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Here for an honest discussion wrote:
Context: the article pictured inNote that this article is cosigned by Jenny Meadows who said she provided info for it, so we can assume the timeline to be correct.
August 2024 - Post-Olympic final: "minor knee injury" - shuts down season
Feb 2025 - Pulls out of Keely Klassic due to GRADE THREE left hamstring tear, whilst being in indoor WR shape
May 2025 - According to this article, she has ANOTHER GRADE THREE TEAR.
July-August 2025 - Pulls out of several meets to postpone her opener, comes back after over a year without a race and drops a 1:54.75.
A grade 3 tear is a complete rupture. Gabby Thomas had a grade 2 (less severe) tear before USAs in 2022 and didn't even make the team, which "only" required a 22 flat (which is certainly no 1:54.7). How was Keely able to:
a) Go from a knee injury to WR shape from August 2024 - Feb 2025
b) Completely tear her hamstring TWICE then rehab and be in "close to WR shape" (her coach's words) from May - August 2025?
If no-one here is willing to admit that the exact same set of circumstances for Mary Moraa or any other non-western athlete would result in relentless suspicion from this very forum, then I do not think we are being very honest.
Furthermore, is the concept of "race sharpness" something that doesn't apply to Keely? Her past 2 seasons were opened in 1:55 as well, the 2024 one also being off the back of an injury. How is she getting in so much high quality training whilst noticeably injured? Athing Mu said she is currently fit, yet was only able to open to a 2:03 and after injuring her hamstring last year was barely in 1:59 shape, despite arguably being more talented (or at least equally so) than Keely and having everything on the line (Olympic team). A lot is made of the fact that Bobby is coaching her (doping allegations) yet Keely's profile has undoubtedly been more dubious than Mu's, even going back to teenage years.
It appears to me that at the very least her injury stories are heavily exaggerated. The possibility of her having "help" to rehab these so fast time and time again, or these stories just being coverups definitely seems more than 0. Most athletes with these injuries are out for at least a season and sometimes aren't the same after. I'm to believe she had 2 grade 3 tears plus a knee injury and is in WR shape? Please let me know how this makes any sense. Mind you, I've seen people on this forum suspicious of Jonah Koech for taking less time off than this due to a tight hamstring. This is two grade three tears.
I've done grade 2 tears, one in each leg and it each time it was 8 weeks before I could start returning to activities. Grade 3 tears require surgery. I'd like to see pictures of the back of her legs to hint at surgery incision scars. Also I wore a compression sleeve on my thigh for months to give it proper support and she's running w/o one...
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Makes sense that a trumper would think she's hot. Basically anyone without mar-a-lago face is attractive compared to those idiots.
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Didn't read all. What's the conclusion, secret ban, exaggeration or what?
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Classic Vintage wrote:
Here for an honest discussion wrote:
Context: the article pictured inNote that this article is cosigned by Jenny Meadows who said she provided info for it, so we can assume the timeline to be correct.
August 2024 - Post-Olympic final: "minor knee injury" - shuts down season
Feb 2025 - Pulls out of Keely Klassic due to GRADE THREE left hamstring tear, whilst being in indoor WR shape
May 2025 - According to this article, she has ANOTHER GRADE THREE TEAR.
July-August 2025 - Pulls out of several meets to postpone her opener, comes back after over a year without a race and drops a 1:54.75.
A grade 3 tear is a complete rupture. Gabby Thomas had a grade 2 (less severe) tear before USAs in 2022 and didn't even make the team, which "only" required a 22 flat (which is certainly no 1:54.7). How was Keely able to:
[blah blah]
It appears to me that at the very least her injury stories are heavily exaggerated. The possibility of her having "help" to rehab these so fast time and time again, or these stories just being coverups definitely seems more than 0. Most athletes with these injuries are out for at least a season and sometimes aren't the same after. I'm to believe she had 2 grade 3 tears plus a knee injury and is in WR shape? Please let me know how this makes any sense. Mind you, I've seen people on this forum suspicious of Jonah Koech for taking less time off than this due to a tight hamstring. This is two grade three tears.
According to the NHS website, in the UK a Grade 3 muscle tear is defined as any tear where over 50% of the muscle fibres are damaged. It doesn't mean a "full rupture" in the UK. Its just a serious tear. Even then, I should imagine that the lines between a Grade 2 and Grade 3 tear overlap and they erred on the side of caution.
Clearly, her injury has healed. Clearly, she is a British athlete with a British coach using British healthcare definitions. What is it that you are trying to argue about? She's been out of action for a year. She's young and fast and fresh with a history of racing well in her first race back. Thats different from the heats in a championship event.
So basically, you are attacking her because she's not American and not black, since all your wheedling examples are black athletes and/or American athletes.
Maybe UK middle distance coaching is just better. I'm a British female former middle distance athlete, and even at my relatively ordinary level, it was a problem trying to train when I was based even elsewhere in Europe because the training was so undisciplined or involved too long reps with not enough short fast stuff and long recovery, combined with a failure to do longer stuff in the winter and proper cross country - not running round a grassy field as you do in the US or doing 30 track races a year when I was aged 17-19.
Her nationality and race (which is the same as mine) isn't relevant here - I was just outlining what I believe to be dubious circumstances and emphasising that I know for a fact if she was a different demographic there would be 10x more people on this site voicing the same concerns.
I've found the NHS definition that you are citing - it then goes onto say that "these are more significant injuries and cause complete loss of muscle function and significant pain and difficulty moving." Furthermore the NHS isn't consistent within themselves it seems - says complete tear and affirms that a grade 3 tear would be difficult to stand/walk on. I had thought that the generally understood connotation of "grade 3" was a complete tear but I am fine being corrected here. Note that we also have no clue whether the scan was with a private doctor or not.As for your last paragraph, half her training is in South Africa anyways. Regardless, I think "attacking" is a bit harsh here - I haven't insulted her personally at all and I think I've been relatively civil. I don't see an issue with healthy suspicion especially in a sport like this. As a Brit, the fact that next to no high-profile Brits are ever caught by UKAD or AIU has slightly disillusioned me, I admit. I have a hard time believing that every single one of them is clean.
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Just lol @ this forum wrote:
Makes me laugh when people here say she is hot. She is a plain looking white girl from North West England with big teeth. Plenty of better looking women here.
This.
Blonde hair and being thin seem to go a long way on this forum.
No modeling offers are incoming for KH.
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Redonculous Maximus wrote:
Here for an honest discussion wrote:
Context: the article pictured inNote that this article is cosigned by Jenny Meadows who said she provided info for it, so we can assume the timeline to be correct.
August 2024 - Post-Olympic final: "minor knee injury" - shuts down season
Feb 2025 - Pulls out of Keely Klassic due to GRADE THREE left hamstring tear, whilst being in indoor WR shape
May 2025 - According to this article, she has ANOTHER GRADE THREE TEAR.
July-August 2025 - Pulls out of several meets to postpone her opener, comes back after over a year without a race and drops a 1:54.75.
A grade 3 tear is a complete rupture. Gabby Thomas had a grade 2 (less severe) tear before USAs in 2022 and didn't even make the team, which "only" required a 22 flat (which is certainly no 1:54.7). How was Keely able to:
a) Go from a knee injury to WR shape from August 2024 - Feb 2025
b) Completely tear her hamstring TWICE then rehab and be in "close to WR shape" (her coach's words) from May - August 2025?
If no-one here is willing to admit that the exact same set of circumstances for Mary Moraa or any other non-western athlete would result in relentless suspicion from this very forum, then I do not think we are being very honest.
Furthermore, is the concept of "race sharpness" something that doesn't apply to Keely? Her past 2 seasons were opened in 1:55 as well, the 2024 one also being off the back of an injury. How is she getting in so much high quality training whilst noticeably injured? Athing Mu said she is currently fit, yet was only able to open to a 2:03 and after injuring her hamstring last year was barely in 1:59 shape, despite arguably being more talented (or at least equally so) than Keely and having everything on the line (Olympic team). A lot is made of the fact that Bobby is coaching her (doping allegations) yet Keely's profile has undoubtedly been more dubious than Mu's, even going back to teenage years.
It appears to me that at the very least her injury stories are heavily exaggerated. The possibility of her having "help" to rehab these so fast time and time again, or these stories just being coverups definitely seems more than 0. Most athletes with these injuries are out for at least a season and sometimes aren't the same after. I'm to believe she had 2 grade 3 tears plus a knee injury and is in WR shape? Please let me know how this makes any sense. Mind you, I've seen people on this forum suspicious of Jonah Koech for taking less time off than this due to a tight hamstring. This is two grade three tears.
FWIW - I suffered two Grade 3 tears in my competitive running life. One time it was my hamstring, the other time it was my quad. Several years apart. In both cases, I was told 6 weeks off running (not 3 months) and in both cases, I felt 'ready to go' in just 2 or 3 weeks (but nonetheless I listened to doctors orders and took the full 6 weeks). In both cases, I rebounded very quickly (as I think the time off of hard training actually does wonders for allowing a full-body recovery/rejunination after years of hard training). So I don't find Keely's recovery that suspicious - especially given that she benefits from a lot of "legal / not-banned" technology/therapy that the rest of us don't get access to.
Note: Im a guy, not world class, but ran faster at 800m than Keely.
Also, I am in my late 40s and had another Grade 3 tear (or at least I suspect it was because it felt the same as the two confirmed ones). No longer competitive but was training for a marathon - same thing... felt good to go after 2 weeks, but in this case I just decided to re-start training after 3 weeks and was fine.
Also, if you're Meadows and ifyou were coaching a doping athlete, why would you publish details about the severity of an injury and the speed of recovery??
Now is it time to talk about Josh Hoey?
Fair enough. Also I've made a thread on Hoey before - still can't believe he isn't in the AIU testing pool yet (he is in the USADA one though).
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