He was right there at 200 to go. I think once he realized he didn’t have it for top 3ish he gave up.
Giving up at the end of a disappointing race seems to be a new pattern for him. I think there’s definitely a mental component to some of these flops.
I agree, I think there is a mental piece to this. Mentioned earlier I was disappointed with his initial reaction to not making the team ("nothing else I could of done better, I don't know what to do"). I want this kid to succeed. I believe his support group will get him through this, definitely not washed.
Not sure. But I noticed something, it may be nothing, seen it befor last 120M. He looks to his right Nuguse is right there, he puffs his checks out, like exaggerated breathing and almost immediately .I have also seen it in two other spots in races and wondered if I was nuts. So, I had a non track person watch it, they said it clearly looks different,
Meaning what? I noticed it too, but what are you thinking it means?
Kessler’s struggles remind me of Hoare’s struggles. They believe they can compete for a medal and doing everything they can to get there but hasn’t worked out.
I think he had a break in training when his girlfriend was in an accident this spring and previously he has had difficult seasons when that period was interrupted where he didn't come back well after it. The base and excessive hard intervals are usually what is implicated when you peak too soon and start going backwards.
He didn't look terrible today - he was in it with 200m to go and just didn't have it. Never happened to you in training or a race? He had a long season and his body just said nope not today. Chill, he will continue to develop and get better.
The USA 1500m scene is tough right now and the margin for error is so low and the talent so high. He just needs to relax let the body recover and get back to it. Success is not always linear.
Like Hopple in the 800 once the race objectives cannot be met there is not much reason to push hard. Just back off and save the effort and diminish the pain. So don't use his time to indicate his performance level.
A lot of people here will respond with, "but that was the time". But to see if he is washed up, that mark overstated his performance level and speaks directly to questions like Is he washed up.
The statement that he is amounts to the bad type of Click bait.
His coaching situation seems like kind of a nightmare. Find one coach and stick to his plan. Mike Smith and Micheal Scaloni (grants coach) seem logical, although i don’t really understand the logistics of brands and joining a team.
His coaching situation seems like kind of a nightmare. Find one coach and stick to his plan. Mike Smith and Micheal Scaloni (grants coach) seem logical, although i don’t really understand the logistics of brands and joining a team.
Mike Scannell. Smith is a Nike coach, but Scannell could take him on theoretically. Don’t think this would happen but Ben Thomas is a perfect fit given Hobbs’ fondness for cross training.
His coaching situation seems like kind of a nightmare. Find one coach and stick to his plan. Mike Smith and Micheal Scaloni (grants coach) seem logical, although i don’t really understand the logistics of brands and joining a team.
Mike Scannell. Smith is a Nike coach, but Scannell could take him on theoretically. Don’t think this would happen but Ben Thomas is a perfect fit given Hobbs’ fondness for cross training.
Nah, he is never gonna be in same group as Hocker.
when you are young every one is looking for that “shiny new thing”
While gifted his biggest drops and development were with Ronnie and probably most fun
He’s just gotta go back to Ronnie. Ronnie is a cerebral coach and will keep him in the game. Henners got a training plan but doesn’t have the Warhurst/Smith/Salazar mental game down.
Nah, he is never gonna be in same group as Hocker.
when you are young every one is looking for that “shiny new thing”
While gifted his biggest drops and development were with Ronnie and probably most fun
i would ring him up just to chat if nothing else
I wasn't aware that Kessler had stopped working with Warhurst. Seems odd to make a change after all the success Kessler had last year, although he said that Warhurst was "pretty much at retiring age so he’s pretty hands-off" in this interview published last year:
Q: What is your coaching set-up? HK: I have a bit of a unique set-up at the moment. Ron Warhurst coached me in high school and still does to a certain degree, but as he’s pretty much at retiring age so he’s pretty hands-off. It just leaves a lot of it up to the athlete, so I have to fill in some of the gaps. I’ve had other people really help me out with some of the details and over time we’ve developed a system. Me, Ron, my dad, Pat Henner, that’s the core group along with some other people. Just through experimentation and learning by talking to people and past experiences and everything, we’ve developed a system that we feel pretty confident in. We’re constantly tweaking it, but it worked really well indoors and the things we learned we can improve on indoors, we’ve taken those steps. But it’s very collaborative and I would say very unique. At the end of the day, I’m the one, with a lot of help, making a lot of the decisions. I have people telling me like, “Hey, this isn’t right,” or “Let’s change this,” so it’s definitely unorthodox but it’s working so far. With my personality, I like having a bigger say and more control in my training.
Nah, he is never gonna be in same group as Hocker.
when you are young every one is looking for that “shiny new thing”
While gifted his biggest drops and development were with Ronnie and probably most fun
i would ring him up just to chat if nothing else
I wasn't aware that Kessler had stopped working with Warhurst. Seems odd to make a change after all the success Kessler had last year, although he said that Warhurst was "pretty much at retiring age so he’s pretty hands-off" in this interview published last year:
Q: What is your coaching set-up? HK: I have a bit of a unique set-up at the moment. Ron Warhurst coached me in high school and still does to a certain degree, but as he’s pretty much at retiring age so he’s pretty hands-off. It just leaves a lot of it up to the athlete, so I have to fill in some of the gaps. I’ve had other people really help me out with some of the details and over time we’ve developed a system. Me, Ron, my dad, Pat Henner, that’s the core group along with some other people. Just through experimentation and learning by talking to people and past experiences and everything, we’ve developed a system that we feel pretty confident in. We’re constantly tweaking it, but it worked really well indoors and the things we learned we can improve on indoors, we’ve taken those steps. But it’s very collaborative and I would say very unique. At the end of the day, I’m the one, with a lot of help, making a lot of the decisions. I have people telling me like, “Hey, this isn’t right,” or “Let’s change this,” so it’s definitely unorthodox but it’s working so far. With my personality, I like having a bigger say and more control in my training.
Ron has not been involved day to day for at least I want to say 15 months plus or so? Ron coached 12 Olympians, more than almost any coach we have, I can see a change, maybe not to him .. but I would investigate what he thinks. I know, because I talk to him a lot, but I doubt Ron would administer the training that is going on now. He uses some very solid and simple stuff, really. It kept Nick upright for 20 years of competing. Hobbs was fifth last year at Olympics in sub 3:30 and made two event teams and 1:43.67? Has won a World Indoor Medal, no matter who was in it... and won Two U.S. Champs and ran a 3:46.x Indoor Mile, this year our team at 15 was very hard to make, and doubling at 800M was not a possibility, nor would he have made it. There are still the examples where it is hard to miss the talent . I was puzzled in that he just stopped running in this one, yet even though 7th in one before, his last 70M or so was run well , passing 4 guys in deep stretch.
Are you new to track? Kessler was faster at 21 than Hocker was at 22. If born in the same year, Kessler would have beaten Hocker dozens of times by now.
