Let's stay on topic, you keep linking to profiles of random transgender athletes.
Sadie Schreiner's 200 time when from 23.0 as a male to 24.1 as a female. That's 793 on the men's scoring tables to 1022 on the female scoring tables. An equivalent performance post-transition should have been 26.7 not 24.1. UNFAIR ADVANTAGE.
Let's stay on topic, you keep linking to profiles of random transgender athletes.
Sadie Schreiner's 200 time when from 23.0 as a male to 24.1 as a female. That's 793 on the men's scoring tables to 1022 on the female scoring tables. An equivalent performance post-transition should have been 26.7 not 24.1. UNFAIR ADVANTAGE.
Right. Sadie Schreiner has unfair advantage over cis women and therefore should not be competing against cis women.
That has absolutely nothing to do with whether other trans women should be allowed to compete against cis women.
So let's not talk about trans women in general. This thread is only about Sadie Schreiner.
Do tou understand politics? If tou support men in women's sports, you are on the left.
I don’t know if there are any people who identify politically on the right who support trans women competing in women’s sports. Seems unlikely except maybe situations where a conservative family has come to accept through personal or family experience someone they love who has transitioned and wants to compete.
But there are lots of us on the left who support trans rights and the LBGTQ+ and trans communities and who do not approve of trans women competing in women’s sports. I believe that it’s unfair. I understand that many people think that banning trans women from women’s sports is then unfair or unsupportive of trans women, but life’s not always fair, and in my mind keeping trans women out of women’s sports is the right decision.
Do tou understand politics? If tou support men in women's sports, you are on the left.
I don’t know if there are any people who identify politically on the right who support trans women competing in women’s sports. Seems unlikely except maybe situations where a conservative family has come to accept through personal or family experience someone they love who has transitioned and wants to compete.
But there are lots of us on the left who support trans rights and the LBGTQ+ and trans communities and who do not approve of trans women competing in women’s sports. I believe that it’s unfair. I understand that many people think that banning trans women from women’s sports is then unfair or unsupportive of trans women, but life’s not always fair, and in my mind keeping trans women out of women’s sports is the right decision.
As a liberal Democrat, I want to second this point.
Many of us on the left support trans rights, but we don't support trans women competing in women sports.
It isn't fair to girls and women, and I do hope this women from RIT wins her lawsuit.
This will be a better country when we can discuss these issues in thoughtful, nuanced ways devoid of insults and unfounded assumptions.
Wait now. A Trump supporter complaining about ack of privacy when Musk had access to data on millions of Americans during DOGE, and when Trump is forcing universities to turn over information about the students.
Trans women are men. Mentally disturbed men, but still men. They are misogynistic to the extreme due to their jealousy of actual women. Their preoccupation with children is a huge red flag. They need psychological help, not women’s clothing or going to extremes of self mutilation like lopping off their dongs in self hatred. Keep these individuals away from children.
Trans women are men. Mentally disturbed men, but still men.
This is the absolute core of the issue, and the premise on which all this disagreement stems from. The two sides of this issue are both assuming the above is true or not and then arguing from there. The rest of the argument will never go anywhere because we cannot agree on the above statement.