The problem with the "move out" thing is that unless a meet official has them all move out, it is actually worse when runners make that decision on their own.
Imagine the final four runners are in lane one on the homestretch. Now what happens if one moves way out into lane three "to be nice" and one see her do it so moves out into lane two. The other two, being exhausted and clueless stay in lane one. Now we have three lanes blocked!
Lapped runners, please, just stay single file on the rail. Passing on the outside edge of lane one (on the straight) only adds like 10 cm to your run. It is not an issue.
Going wide diagonally 1 meter in 100 meters adds only 5mm. 10 cm is a 20x overestimation. People complaining about distance lost by passing on a straight need to lose their math card.
I mean, you're right but you're wrong.
Correct: Overtaking on a straight adds very little total distance run.
But the idea that a passing runner will run the exact triangular hypotenuse is just... silly.
Anyway, lapped runners should hug the rail and not be paid a time, end of discussion.
Correct: Overtaking on a straight adds very little total distance run.
But the idea that a passing runner will run the exact triangular hypotenuse is just... silly.
Anyway, lapped runners should hug the rail and not be paid a time, end of discussion.
No, they should be pulled off the track and DNF before they are lapped. Watching lapped runners in a professional race is aesthetically wrong and distracting.
Disagree with this sentiment. The reality is that the pointy end in women's distance running is a lot faster than the mid-pack. A lot of endurance sports are like this & a lot of factors go into it, one being that men have been at training/racing for longer & don't carry children/often do less of the traditional child raising. You're seeing more elite female athletes forgo starting families during their careers and you're seeing rapid improvement in women's distance running. I think we'll naturally see the gap come down to the top-end so I wouldn't give it too much thought now. 15:00-15:30 is still an elite mark for pro women. You can't really have a meet with just 14-flat 5k runners. I didn't like how empty the GST races looked. Continue giving women opportunities in races like this to set PBs & NRs. It'll be cool when women all hang around 14:00-14:30.
Correct: Overtaking on a straight adds very little total distance run.
But the idea that a passing runner will run the exact triangular hypotenuse is just... silly.
Anyway, lapped runners should hug the rail and not be paid a time, end of discussion.
No, they should be pulled off the track and DNF before they are lapped. Watching lapped runners in a professional race is aesthetically wrong and distracting.
Not a bad idea.
To help make this common, elite/televised meets should just not have entries more than one minute behind a reasonable estimate of the winning time.
US Men's 10K medals: Lewis Tewanima: Silver, 1912 Stockholm Billy Mills: Gold, 1964 Stockholm Galen Rupp: Silver, 2012 London Grant Fisher: Bronze, 2024 Paris
US Women's 10K* medals:
Lynn Jennings, Bronze, 1992 Barcelona Shalane Flanagan, Silver, 2008 Beijing
*The Women's 10K was introduced in 1988.
Since there was a Women's 10K, there have been 2 medals for US women and 2 for US men.
The Women's 5K was not included until 1996. At which point, the best US Women's Olympic performances include Jennings and Goucher. Unfortunate for Jennings, she was ~36 y.o. when the 5K was added; therefore, she may have performed better if it was added sooner.
What do they have to lose? They should lose 1) The result should not count. 2) Whaever new world record that seems to be broken each week to try and get people interested (and failing). 3). The country of Kenya needs to be banned.
The fact that twiggy Kenyans are allowed to compete really shows how much this sport is suffering and how low it stoops every time these doping age cheats steps on a track.
US Men's 10K medals: Lewis Tewanima: Silver, 1912 Stockholm Billy Mills: Gold, 1964 Stockholm Galen Rupp: Silver, 2012 London Grant Fisher: Bronze, 2024 Paris
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