Like 1214 others. In an event Ingebrigtsen almost never runs. 600 are now faster than Elliott - in his main event.
Ingebrigtsen almost never runs the 5k, too. 20 are faster than him over that distance. But he does also sometimes race the 800. But is now slower than a 16 year old.
Herb was as fast as Ingebrigtsen 65 years ago on cinders with cr*p shoes. He would be faster today than Ingebrigtsen in the same conditions - and on the same juice.
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Why does this Armstronglivs person try to make every thread about Jakob? Is he a gay man who acttually pines for Jakob’s attention? Seriously asking. He is very strange.
On a side note, I have no idea why anybody would say that he is doping, unless the idea is that anybody who runs fast must be doping. There's no other reason to level that charge.
Totally agree that we usually see about 1.5-2 second positive split in the some of the highest performing races, but this race really got me thinking
Probably safe to argue this was the fastest overall HS 800m ever, three guys under 1:48, and they all ran a negative split
Is this hinting at a paradigm shift, and maybe we'll see something closer to an even split for the next 800m WR?
Idk if negative splitting 1:40 is possible
It's not hard to imagine 50-50 if you look at some of the other ways people have done it. I don't think 49-51 is fundamentally that much different or better for someone who has 45 second speed or faster.
People say 1 second per lap as if that’s a conservative estimate when especially at an elite level it isn’t. You mean to tell me bekele could have run in the low 12:20s or hicham could have run 3:38 in the mile? I realize it does make a significant difference, but the 1 second per lap doesn’t seem accurate or that simple.
No. You don’t understand how this works. The best of the best get the least benefit from super shoes because they’re already so efficient and naturally springy. It’s what make them generational talents. The super shoes levels the playing field for those that don’t have perfect mechanics. El G probably would have run 3:24-5 in super shoes. He was also doped like crazy so he wouldn’t see a huge benefit. Yes. Bekele/Geb probably are 12:30 guys. Absolutely.
I don’t understand why kids can’t admit this. What do you think has happened? The human race has evolved over the last 5 years? Being “better” than previous generations is for a reason. The reasons are shoes, training methodologies, expectations and racing opportunities. Why do you take offense to this? It’s really weird.
Silly. So are you saying the human race has devolved?
If El G, 3:23-3:24, that would make him, Lagat, Morceli and Ngeny all 2-3s faster than our best today.
If Rudisha is a 1:38-39 guy with super shoes. He’s 2-3 faster than the current best guys.
I would bet on training evolution, more people in the sport, etc before I say that the 90s-early 2000s were 2-4 seconds faster. That’s silly.
Remember before you make wild adjustments, adjust all the old records down too.