Is there anywhere in there that the officials can choose to ignore the obvious, videotaped evidence of a rules infraction that results in disqualification and moves everyone behind that runner up one spot?
This was as obvious as having all your toes over the line on the long jump. We can't excuse it because it was a great jump, or an otherwise winning jump. Even if the jump allows you to win by a foot and the inch didn't matter, we can't unsee what we all see.
Poor analogy - going over the line in the long jump actually increases the length of the jump, i.e. it is unquestionably advantageous to the athlete.
Actually it was a perfect analogy.
When the rule is clearly, unequivocally violated and you have video evidence to prove it, you owe it to the field to call it as it is.
Over the line by an inch in the long jump? The jump is a fault.
Take three steps inside the rail around the curve, with no runner pushing you there? It is a DQ.
It does not seem necessary to have officials then. A machine can follow the letter of the rules without consideration of their spirit or the context. So If the answer to officiating is "a rule is a rule," then I would get rid of officials completely, because they cannot see micro-violations of rules as well as a machine can.
This is just stupid. In cycling, judges are allowed to, you know, use their judgement. They can DQ, but they can also relegate the rider to the back of the group they are in, so maybe they get 4th or something, but not out of the race. This runner should have been given 2nd place, which would acknowledge his infraction while still giving him credit for his performance.
Cycling is also, far and away, one of the most controversial sports. You can't name 5 track and field scandals because an official favored one athlete over another - Cycling is littered with them.
you've forgotten your math classes. this is more like running two legs of the angle (in then out) and saying it's shorter than the arc. not true. ii think you're wishing he did the "chord," but he didn't really straightline it.
anybody who watched it, that made his time tenths, maybe a second, slower.
I also didn't realize the kid & his girlfriend are getting hate on social media for his waving to the crowd right before the finish. C'mon now. It looks like he did that in line with where his coach/teammates would've been standing but, even if it wasn't, nothing about it felt overly disrespectful or anything like that. Our standard in T&F is ridiculous compared to every other sport, or even to sprinters within our own sport.
Still really didn't like seeing the excitement/celebration with his team, knowing the end result. No reason for officials to enforce something & create a problem here since no advantage was sought. The rule is there to penalize cheaters. I doubt a thread would've been created if nothing had happened. If someone started a thread saying he shouldn't have won because of this the first response would've said it wouldn't have mattered and the thread would've stopped there.
Also seems like the kid went through a lot re injuries & getting to this level of fitness. Bristol RI isn't a running mecca. Gross streets surround that campus where cars go 60mph, with the smallest shoulder imaginable. The school doesn't even have a track. They use a pair of local HS tracks.
The crazy announcer was definitely encouraging him to celebrate in the last 100m. That guy needs to chill out. We don’t need to be screaming the whole time during a 29 minute race. And he should spend some time learning how say at least half of the D3 schools that will be at the championship.
Brave race from him, well out ahead for a long way out, and a 5.5 second win that would not have changed without the miscue. However, he did take a couple steps inside the curb on the last turn through no one's fault but his own, so he can't ultimately complain about it. Not the best time to look back. It bites but that's the rule.
Why would I make this up? Officials did not wave the yellow flag until after Wartburg complained. 3 steps or not, BS DQs are what keep D3 looking like a joke
dumb question and new to the sport, but does a yellow flag signify a DQ in XC or track or just whenever any violation has been committed? Do they have other colors for different things during a meet? I know in road races they have colors for heat alert levels, etc. Of course this is a bit different.
“NCAA 10k- OA Champion but actually 2nd place. Won the race on a stupid technicality and DQ, Nathan Tassey is your actual champion. He earned it. None the less, super happy with this race and wouldn’t change a thing other than the DQ.”
Similar sentiments were expressed by others in the 10k like Simon Heys and Aidan Matthai. Clearly they know for a fact that Nathan deserved that win. They’re just as angry as in 2023 when Gregg got unfairly DQed before the 5k. The good sportsmanship displayed by these athletes is incredible, something D3 definitely does better than other divisions. Hats off to Nicholson for a great collegiate running career (although he still has one more race!) and I really hope that Nathan and the other returners from the 10k remain healthy throughout the next year and give us some more amazing racing!
This is refreshing in a world where everyone is out for themselves, cynical, etc. Good sportsmanship is so rare. Props to the 2nd place guy.
I have run in trail races where the rule is that if you leave the designated route you must return to the point where you left the designated route before you can proceed, otherwise an automatic DQ.
Something like that could work in a track race. If you take two steps inside the rail you must go back (not on the track) to the point where you first stepped off the track before proceeding, otherwise a DQ.
In this case if that was the rule- the runner might have had a big enough lead that would have allowed him to stop, turn around, go back to where he first stepped over the rail and then turn back onto the track and proceed to still win the race.
This type of rule provides competitors with the opportunity to correct their violation, instead of having an official subjectively make decisions regarding if an advantage was gained and/or what subjective penalty is appropriate
This type of rule automatically accounts for the degree of violation, the ability of the athlete, and to a certain extent the point in the race at which the violation occurred.
It is similar to relay rules that permit athletes to stop and go back to make a legal baton exchange in the zone to correct their violation.
Can confirm. Ridiculous if true. First ever national champion. If North Central coach did this lost all respect for the program. RWU is the champion no question.
Sad. Still, at least he got to run. Wasn't it a couple of years ago that Ethan Gregg was DQed for a false start, and UWL would have likely won the title but for that? Not sure if it was the 10k or the 5k. (I think the 5k.)
My daughter is running high school meets now. Coming from middle school meets—which are low key and chill—and some regional USATF club meets—which, at least here, are low key and chill—it is a bit jarring seeing people flip the heck out over some petty, little stuff. (Especially when it doesn't matter, really, in the long run. But, eh . . .)
Seems like this carries over into college, lol. It's sad we teach folks to be so petty. That's the lesson they learn. Even so, if you step out you step out—I always tell my kiddo to be careful and, if it happens, you can be disappointed but don't get too down on it.
Can confirm. Ridiculous if true. First ever national champion. If North Central coach did this lost all respect for the program. RWU is the champion no question.
Sad. Still, at least he got to run. Wasn't it a couple of years ago that Ethan Gregg was DQed for a false start, and UWL would have likely won the title but for that? Not sure if it was the 10k or the 5k. (I think the 5k.)
My daughter is running high school meets now. Coming from middle school meets—which are low key and chill—and some regional USATF club meets—which, at least here, are low key and chill—it is a bit jarring seeing people flip the heck out over some petty, little stuff. (Especially when it doesn't matter, really, in the long run. But, eh . . .)
Seems like this carries over into college, lol. It's sad we teach folks to be so petty. That's the lesson they learn. Even so, if you step out you step out—I always tell my kiddo to be careful and, if it happens, you can be disappointed but don't get too down on it.
UWL would not have won the title, as they lost to MIT by 11.5 points (60.5-49). Since Gregg couldn’t have beaten Alex Phillip, anyway, the ridiculous DQ (from the 5K) cost LaCrosse a maximum of 8 points.