I don't know about Kerr beating him, but just having Kerr in the race would be interesting to watch because it may cause Ingebrigtsen to deviate from the tactics that have been so successful for him in the event.
Didn’t Fisher have the fastest close in the Olympic 5,000m final?
His position was bad with a lap to go, he even said so and also said his legs were dead from the 10,000m final. That tells me he underestimated himself even though he was severely tired. He was at a different level in Paris and he won two bronze medals.
His start to 2025 indicates he is at a different level then he was last year. If all works out well for him through the year I absolutely see him challenging and beating Jacob.
Everyone is beatable - everyone.
Of all the current runners, it's crazy to think Grant might be the betting favorite but I remind you Jakob was hurt last year and beat Grant by 1.5 seconds.
Aregawi or Hagos.
Wasnt Gebrehiwet something like a 54 close in his 12:36. If these guys had a clue how to peak at the right time...
lol@ Kerr. He'd be lucky to run a 60 at the end of one of these 13:10 type races Jakob has been dominating, with low 2:20s closes.
That's if he's good enough to even be near the front. and most likely, he wouldn't be.
Remember when Cole Hocker ran the 5000 trials in Oregon last year?
winner: 13:08
Cole Hocker: 13:20 with a 59 second last lap. Those guys don't have what Jakob has.
I think you underestimates Kerr a bit. He's a 8:00 2 miler and with his speed, he should definitely be a threat in a 13:10-20 race, though I don't know if he would regain that form ever again with his hip injury.
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Didn’t Fisher have the fastest close in the Olympic 5,000m final?
His position was bad with a lap to go, he even said so and also said his legs were dead from the 10,000m final. That tells me he underestimated himself even though he was severely tired. He was at a different level in Paris and he won two bronze medals.
His start to 2025 indicates he is at a different level then he was last year. If all works out well for him through the year I absolutely see him challenging and beating Jacob.
Everyone is beatable - everyone.
Of all the current runners, it's crazy to think Grant might be the betting favorite but I remind you Jakob was hurt last year and beat Grant by 1.5 seconds.
Jakob also eased up once he made contact with Gebrihwet on the backstretch before hitting the gas at 200. Grant might have had a slightly faster last 400 then Jakob, but Jakob had a MUCH more relaxed final 400 and probably the fastest last 500.
lol@ Kerr. He'd be lucky to run a 60 at the end of one of these 13:10 type races Jakob has been dominating, with low 2:20s closes.
That's if he's good enough to even be near the front. and most likely, he wouldn't be.
Remember when Cole Hocker ran the 5000 trials in Oregon last year?
winner: 13:08
Cole Hocker: 13:20 with a 59 second last lap. Those guys don't have what Jakob has.
I think you underestimates Kerr a bit. He's a 8:00 2 miler and with his speed, he should definitely be a threat in a 13:10-20 race, though I don't know if he would regain that form ever again with his hip injury.
no chance he can hang with a 2:21 close in a 13:10 race. ZERO.
I think you underestimates Kerr a bit. He's a 8:00 2 miler and with his speed, he should definitely be a threat in a 13:10-20 race, though I don't know if he would regain that form ever again with his hip injury.
no chance he can hang with a 2:21 close in a 13:10 race. ZERO.
okay. 0.1
Idk, if even Paul Chelimo could close a 13:00ish race in 2:24 in Rio without the advent of superspikes, it's not a stretch to think Kerr could hang with a 2:21 close in a 13:10 race even though he probably still wouldn't win. Kerr also beat Fisher in a 2 mile race. I think his endurance is underrated, when in reality he's a strength-based 1500m runner just like Jakob. Their 800m and half marathon PBs are identical as well. (that's also why I don't believe Jakob doesn't have a kick btw)
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Kerr is an 8/15 runner, what he runs on a souped up indoor track in the 2 mile doesn't tell us much about what he can do in the 5000 outdoors, when his current PB of 13:23 is just enough to eek out the world record in 1965 from the great Kip Keino running 13:24.
Kerr might move on to longer stuff and road racing in the future, but right now he's dedicating the prime of his career to running the 8/15 in the GST.
Kerr is an 8/15 runner, what he runs on a souped up indoor track in the 2 mile doesn't tell us much about what he can do in the 5000 outdoors, when his current PB of 13:23 is just enough to eek out the world record in 1965 from the great Kip Keino running 13:24.
Kerr might move on to longer stuff and road racing in the future, but right now he's dedicating the prime of his career to running the 8/15 in the GST.
he beat a soon-to-be 5000m Olympic bronze medalist in the same race by almost 3 secs though. I think that's good enough to tell he has great potential in the 3k/5k in championships.
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I bet one of the 20 Ethiopian guys who are sub 12:40 will beat him at least once in the next 2 years lol
There are 2 Etiophians who have run sub 12:40 recently: Gebrhiwet and Kejelcha and none of them have beaten Jakob the last several years (I don´t think Kejelcha has ever beaten Jakob even though they competed against each other when Jakob was still a teenager and Kejelcha was double indoor 3000m world champion and holder of the indoor mile WR).
Kejelcha wasn´t even able to beat him in the 3000m in Eugene 2023 when Jakob ran with jetlag and on tired legs. And Jakob has improved significantly since 2023 as we saw in his 3000m WR race last year.
Kerr is an 8/15 runner, what he runs on a souped up indoor track in the 2 mile doesn't tell us much about what he can do in the 5000 outdoors, when his current PB of 13:23 is just enough to eek out the world record in 1965 from the great Kip Keino running 13:24.
Kerr might move on to longer stuff and road racing in the future, but right now he's dedicating the prime of his career to running the 8/15 in the GST.
he beat a soon-to-be 5000m Olympic bronze medalist in the same race by almost 3 secs though. I think that's good enough to tell he has great potential in the 3k/5k in championships.
He might, but again, he's in his prime years and he's dedicating it to running 8/15. The older he gets, the more middle distance speed he loses which is where his main strength lies.
A field consisting of guys like the Africans, Jakob, Almgren, Lobalu, Fisher, Crippa, Mo Ahmed, potentially someone like George Mills and tons of others isn't going to let races become a 13:20 jog as long as someone wants to push the pace.
Kerr is an 8/15 runner, what he runs on a souped up indoor track in the 2 mile doesn't tell us much about what he can do in the 5000 outdoors, when his current PB of 13:23 is just enough to eek out the world record in 1965 from the great Kip Keino running 13:24.
Kerr might move on to longer stuff and road racing in the future, but right now he's dedicating the prime of his career to running the 8/15 in the GST.
he beat a soon-to-be 5000m Olympic bronze medalist in the same race by almost 3 secs though. I think that's good enough to tell he has great potential in the 3k/5k in championships.
He may have great potential, but he barely races so he may never get the chance to race Jakob over these distances. I think ideally he could race the 3000m at next years World Indoors in Poland but I doubt it.
Kerr is an 8/15 runner, what he runs on a souped up indoor track in the 2 mile doesn't tell us much about what he can do in the 5000 outdoors, when his current PB of 13:23 is just enough to eek out the world record in 1965 from the great Kip Keino running 13:24.
Kerr might move on to longer stuff and road racing in the future, but right now he's dedicating the prime of his career to running the 8/15 in the GST.
Kerr is an 8/15 runner, what he runs on a souped up indoor track in the 2 mile doesn't tell us much about what he can do in the 5000 outdoors, when his current PB of 13:23 is just enough to eek out the world record in 1965 from the great Kip Keino running 13:24.
Kerr might move on to longer stuff and road racing in the future, but right now he's dedicating the prime of his career to running the 8/15 in the GST.
He does have a faster HM than your boy.
Good for Kerr, maybe he can crack the top 1000 in the 5000 then when he'd currently struggle to beat Kip Keino in 1965.
Good for Kerr, maybe he can crack the top 1000 in the 5000 then when he'd currently struggle to beat Kip Keino in 1965.
I'm sure he could run 12:35, because - as you like to remind us again and again about Jakob - he's never tried to run a fast time. But Kerr is probably happy just to keep beating Jakob in his main event - you know, the one he races more than any other.
It's funny how many people think that 1500 runners can just move up and win 5000m championships. Like if the championship race is a slower time than their PB they would just outkick everyone.
Cole Hocker got 7th in the US trials last year in a 13:08 race and he was in pretty great shape at that time. The strength required to win even a tactical 5000m championship is pretty rare among 1500m runners.
Good for Kerr, maybe he can crack the top 1000 in the 5000 then when he'd currently struggle to beat Kip Keino in 1965.
I'm sure he could run 12:35, because - as you like to remind us again and again about Jakob - he's never tried to run a fast time. But Kerr is probably happy just to keep beating Jakob in his main event - you know, the one he races more than any other.
Kerr himself says his two best 5000m times were all out efforts.
We know that you don't follow the sport since you thought Aregawi, third fastest man in history in the 3000m, isn't a good 3000m runner, but can't you at least put some effort into it?
It's funny how many people think that 1500 runners can just move up and win 5000m championships. Like if the championship race is a slower time than their PB they would just outkick everyone.
Cole Hocker got 7th in the US trials last year in a 13:08 race and he was in pretty great shape at that time. The strength required to win even a tactical 5000m championship is pretty rare among 1500m runners.
yup. off the top of my head, there's a list of four dedicated 1500 runnes who have been CHAMPION level in the 5000 and 1500 simultaneously. Jakob, ElG, Keino and Lagat.
honorable mention to Said Aouita.
who am i missing? Let's narrow it to last 60 years.
I'm sure he could run 12:35, because - as you like to remind us again and again about Jakob - he's never tried to run a fast time. But Kerr is probably happy just to keep beating Jakob in his main event - you know, the one he races more than any other.
Kerr himself says his two best 5000m times were all out efforts.
We know that you don't follow the sport since you thought Aregawi, third fastest man in history in the 3000m, isn't a good 3000m runner, but can't you at least put some effort into it?
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