Athing Mu. She doesn't care enough about running faster to dope.
Same coach as the frankenhurdler and FloJo
Give me a break. First of all, Athing Mu won the Olympics and World Championships BEFORE she started with Kersee. She hasn't won any major championships with Kersee.
Second, in the 1980's Bobby Kersee saw that the Eastern European countries were getting away with using steroids because there was no out of competition drug testing and so he jumped on that same band wagon. But out of competition drug testing started in 1989. That was 36 years ago. Kersee is not giving his current athletes drugs like he was back in 1988 and before.
Huddle, Coburn, Morgan, Valby, Kelati, Wiley, MacLean, Sisson, Akins, Houlihan (now, not 4 years ago)
Overall, I think the great majority of elites are clean but these ones I'm 100% certain are clean.
One of the Brooks coaches said he knows that Nuguse is doping. My response to this was - why didn't you report it? Or was it because you couldn't get him signed you decided to bash him?
My List -
Fisher, Nuguse, Akins, Valby, Kelati, Huddle, Miller, Kessler, Morgan ( can't be too sure about the rest )
Asking for a friend is bi-carb going to be considered doping anytime soon - LOL
Ironically you’ve chosen a load of athletes who are barely tested, as they exist in the zone where their countries are not under scrutiny and they’re not good enough to warrant AIU RTP monitoring. Just an observation.
How does a post like this get upvoted so much? So it's ironic that the OP chooses athletes from countries that are 'not under scrutiny'? Maybe he has the same non-biased and rational point-of-view as WADA and the AIU?
Probably Nick Symmonds since his 800m times year-over-year were extremely consistent and slowly improved until the 2012 London Final, then slowly went back up again. His race-to-race performance could vary but overall seasonal performance was consistent.
We also know what he was doing in his non-running time, trying to get as much attention on himself as possible!
Considering Jakob taking down world records since he was a little boy I would be surprised if he was doping. His year to year improvement seemed pretty rational.
I have the opposite opinion.
Jakob started training with 2 professional older brothers. One of them was on the likely doping list. So to me, it’s quite likely Jakob could have been doping longer than anyone.
Second, Gjert goes from no running / coaching experience to obsessive about blood work.
All red flags to me. Also, Norway had a no testing policy for kids below 18 and they also don’t test their adults vigorously.
They’ve only had one major star popped and she was only popped bc she got caught outside of Norway.
Wait, what is the likely doping list, and which Ingebrigtsen was on it?
I've always thought the only clean sprint WR is Aries Merritt's 110h 12.80, a long progression in a technical event where too much speed can be a hindrance, had a ton of close calls on the record during possibly the best season by any hurdler ever in 2012. The 12.80 is beautiful, doesn't hit a single hurdle, happened after the olympics when I'm sure the pressure is much lower, blah blah blah I could go on.
Seems like he gets overlooked in discussions like this, teammates and competitors respected him, reactions after races seem legitimate, interviewed well. Wish he could have had a bit longer of a career but a genetic kidney disease put a halt to that.
How does a post like this get upvoted so much? So it's ironic that the OP chooses athletes from countries that are 'not under scrutiny'? Maybe he has the same non-biased and rational point-of-view as WADA and the AIU?
Yes it is indeed ironic because most people think testing is a big part of clean sport. So the OP choosing infrequently tested athletes is surprising. Him choosing from countries that aren’t Category A isn’t ironic nor would I suggest that. But picking a frequently tested athlete from a country/group without red flags would seem to make more sense. But therein lies the rub, as the better people get, the less sure the masses are they are clean even as they get tested a lot more. See: Bryce Hoppel.
But to appease you here I really doubt Ben Pattison is doping. I also strongly doubt Tim Cheruiyot is doping. Look it’s amazing…we don’t have to stereotype every athlete.
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Her AAU videos are absolutely nuts and it was the most straight forward progression. Like it’s cartoonish how good her Brandon Miller were. I feel like you can put Miller in there just because of his constant consistency from his AAU days. Like no big jumps ever.
"One thing that everyone should know by now is that it’s totally common and expected for youth prodigies to continue to improve every year, ultimately to the point that they might hold every world record in their discipline at the same time."
There is nothing more unlikely that the exception becomes the norm. It absolutely tells us how doping has taken over the sport.
Makes sense Kerr might be clean. All of his teammates must’ve been clean because nobody else really made a world team outside of Harris. And idk if people know how big of a talent Wynne was out of hs and even college. Smooth progression, consistent at USA’s. That guy on PED’s would probably be on a Katir level lmao.
Was having a discussion on the SLR with some teammates about which elite athletes are you most convinced (past or present) were/are clean: specifically who is the highest performing clean athletes
Obv it's not about who you're favourite athlete is, but which elite athletes would you be willing to bet your life savings on being clean?
There are certain fan favourites that there is just too much doubt over, whether it be: - Some consider a tainted group: NOP, Bowerman - proximity to a popped athlete/training partners: Eliud's group, Dibaba family - shared management/agent: too many to name - banned Nations or vast history of doping: Russia, USSR, some old Chinese times, Kenya - athletes everyone screams must've doped from crazy performances: ElG, Kiptum, Eliud, Bekele, Faith, Sifan, Chep'n'getich, Kiplimo, Gidey, P.Radcliffe, Chebet, Cheptegei, Hull, Hunter-Bell - never received a ban, but we got dodgy news about them: Lagat, Amdouni, Makhloufi
The further you go back, the more difficult it can be to choose some names.
My suggestions: - Nick Willis - Pre - Cam Levins - Laura Weightman - Jack Rayner & Brett Robinson - Stephen Scullion - Joe Klecker, Morgan McDonald, Beamish, Hoare, Nuguse - Hocker & Teare - Laura Muir - Dina Asher Smith - Chris Thompson - Justyn Knight - Keely - Abdi Nur
Yes it's obvious I'm British.
Who else?
Michael Norman. He strikes me as a enormously talented guy who was just never able to put it together.