blaham wrote:
You clearly don't know Kieran or elite running very well and that's okay but don't use your ignorance as an excuse to accuse someone of cheating without any evidence.
Kieran was more of a miler/3k guy in college than a 5k/10k guy. He ran 3:57/7:49 as a college student pre-covid in feb 2020. He only ran 13:57/28:45 in college but never got a fair shot as a senior bc of covid.
Then he went pro and got a lot better at those distances, but that doesn't mean that he magically becomes unable to run shorter distances again. All the bowerman guys are 1500/5k/10k guys (Fisher best example during that era). It seems like this past season Tuntivate thought he had a better shot of qualifying to Olympics through the 1500 (probs didn't have a very strong aerobic base for whatever reason to run the std) so he leaned back into his miler roots and ran 3:36/3:54.
It's not a suspicious progression at all and makes you look very ignorant for accusing him.
Do you know who you are calling ignorant? I’m probably the world’s greatest and most perspicacious human space-time detector! I commit to a point of view using tools the average human being don’t have access to.
Kieran went to the 5k10k because he knew he couldn’t be competitive in the 1500m CLEAN. He knew it. He is more of a strength guy not speed. 3:57 out of college is nothing impressive. 3:47 is. When he turned pro he suddenly improved the 10k in less than 12 months from 28:45 to 27:17, it just doesn’t happen like that! That’s not what natural altitude training can do. That’s doping dude! Further confirmation of doping when his miraculous improvement came under famous doping suspect BTC and Jerry.
I know a ton of 29min 10k guys who needed a minimum of 2 years of clean professional full time or amateur part time training to go from 29 to 27. I believe Emily Cairess under Canova was precisely that for the 10k. Canova’s athletes are therefore clean.
what magic does Jerry wield at BTC?
then for some reason Kieran stopped doing the 5k10k, especially the 10k was supposed to be his strong suit with his 27:17 faster than even Jakob’s PB 27:29, and switched to the mile again. The only reason this can happen is if Kieran felt he went backwards in the 10k. His body and legs broke down due to PED damage and running 27:17 before his body was actually mechanically strong enough to handle. He probably damaged a few parts in his body relying on PED to run 27:17 and 13:15 and the consequences now show that he CANNOT repeat even close to those times in the 5/10k again.
All of Kieran’s 5/10k times since 2021 are grossly outside 13:15 and 27:17. For the 10k he deteriorated to running slow 29:50 in Thailand losing to a slow Kenyan whose PB for 10k was at least 1.5minutes slower than his drug aided time. And for the 5k he deteriorated to running lame times of 13:40s/50s and over 14! That’s 2022 and early 2023! Then he just gave up for good and went back to the 1500m.
and I can guarantee he is not coming back to do the 5/10k ever again. If he does he will still be running 13:40s and 29min respectively. Jerry has killed him with PEDs. 🙄