It’s short. Everybody I know PRs in that race by about 45 seconds. It’s immediately disregarded around our area as a “Woodbridge time”. It’s like running a downhill mile.
I previously too had Woodbridge jealousy. Now I go to the meet and take my team and measure it. Now I know the facts and I don't have that jealousy anymore.
How do you feel when your kids runs 90 seconds slower at Woodward Park for the CA state meet after peaking at Woodbridge?
First let me point out that State is a 5K and Woodbridge is a 3M, so I wouldn't expect them to run their 3M Woodbridge time on the 5K Clovis course. Second we have the ability to set other goals then just a fast time. I can tell you the amount of difference between the Woodbridge course and Clovis in time, but it would be different for my team then another. It's really not that hard to convert.
As long as their coach didn't impulsively peak them for Woodbridge, I imagine they could split their Woodbridge time at the 3 mile marker. Would add 30-40s. If not then a) you suck at your job or b) Woodbridge is short. Probably a mixture of both.
I'm not saying it's short, but the leaders ran 8:54.xx for the last two miles. That seems pretty suspect if guys are running 8:55 on grass/asphalt for two miles.
It’s short. Everybody I know PRs in that race by about 45 seconds. It’s immediately disregarded around our area as a “Woodbridge time”. It’s like running a downhill mile.
100%. its a fun race with fake times.
The course is not 3 Miles from my understanding it is 2.75 miles. In college I timed trialed it in 13:43 alone. A college teammate of mine ran it in 14:24 and he was only a 14:50 5,000m track guy.
It's x-country. Time is irrelevant. Why people feel compelled to try to compare performances on different courses is beyond me.
ok I agree with the first 2 sentences, but can you really not understand why people love comparing performances on different courses?
"I bet my guy could run faster than your guy if they ran on the same course"
I'd think everyone on a running messageboard would understand that sentiment. Comes from the same place "I bet I could run faster than you" comes from.
I'm not saying it's short, but the leaders ran 8:54.xx for the last two miles. That seems pretty suspect if guys are running 8:55 on grass/asphalt for two miles.
Tostenson and Powell were 8:39, 8:41 3200 meter runners as juniors. It is not unreasonable to think they leveled up from that their senior xc season
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because the only reasons teams come to this meet and the only reason Californians care about it is because the entire design is to produce fast times that the runners aren't capable of running elsewhere. If the course is "long" it defeats the purpose of giving the kids an inflated ego.
This is sad. These kids would get eaten alive by a real course. And will get eaten alive in real life (unless mommy and daddy bail them out).
Also...why do HS kids have Garmins??? Jfc coddled babies. Hope they bought them with money they made working a real summer J O B...but i doubt it.
because the only reasons teams come to this meet and the only reason Californians care about it is because the entire design is to produce fast times that the runners aren't capable of running elsewhere. If the course is "long" it defeats the purpose of giving the kids an inflated ego.
This is sad. These kids would get eaten alive by a real course. And will get eaten alive in real life (unless mommy and daddy bail them out).
Also...why do HS kids have Garmins??? Jfc coddled babies. Hope they bought them with money they made working a real summer J O B...but i doubt it.
I don't agree that they'd get "eaten alive" by a real course, but total agree with the sentiment that this meet is ridiculous. Seems like Woodbridge has basically killed Mt Sac as a major HS invitational, which to me is a huge shame. I get that everyone likes to run fast, but that's what tracks are for. Why top national kids and their coaches would fly to SoCal to run a dead flat "cross country" race on astroturf is beyond me.
because the only reasons teams come to this meet and the only reason Californians care about it is because the entire design is to produce fast times that the runners aren't capable of running elsewhere. If the course is "long" it defeats the purpose of giving the kids an inflated ego.
This is sad. These kids would get eaten alive by a real course. And will get eaten alive in real life (unless mommy and daddy bail them out).
Also...why do HS kids have Garmins??? Jfc coddled babies. Hope they bought them with money they made working a real summer J O B...but i doubt it.
Same kind of people who kept screaming that Runninglane was short because the NP guys ran low 14s and then Lex ran 13:43 in track the same year.
I previously too had Woodbridge jealousy. Now I go to the meet and take my team and measure it. Now I know the facts and I don't have that jealousy anymore.
How do you feel when your kids runs 90 seconds slower at Woodward Park for the CA state meet after peaking at Woodbridge?
Wow, people run slower on a hilly 5k course than a flat 3 mile 🤯🤯🤯??? No sh#t genius
I would guess they're in ~8:50-8:55 shape RIGHT NOW, that was them at or near their peak last szn. I listened to one of the kids interviews and he said he'd just been building fitness. Quit the delusion, u wanna disagree drop a comment stop down voting withou t reason