It's comical to think anyone is actually surprised at kids doping. I've met some crazy sports parents out there and crazier kids who wouldn't hesitate to dope. My son was going to the gym for a while and there was a truckload and yound men and women who were on the gear just for fun.
The #1 distance guy on my high school team (back in the mid 1970s) was using steroids (he later told me this after high school.) He had a very muscular physique for a distance runner. He ran a 9:18 2 mile in 10th grade which back then was a big deal. He also ran :49 for the 440y. A few years after high school he told me he wished he hadn't taken any because he overdid it and got so big it hurt his running and he worried about the impact it may have on his health. He got so big at one point is was ridiculous. He was a lady's man who wanted big muscles to impress the girls (married with kids now.)
The #2 distance guy on our team had asthma and would take a few hits on an inhaler right before the start of his races.
Are you serious? That's insane - a HS distance runner from the mid-1970s using roids?!? 😲 (curious- do you know what specific compounds he was taking?)
I played HS football on a state championship team & ran track in the late 1970s before I went into competitive bodybuilding in the 1980s. I wasn't aware of anyone on our football team using roids. About a third of starters was using amphetamines, and about half the team - including some coaches - smoked pot. Lol.
I didn't see roids until I started bodybuilding in the 1980s. Back then, they were everywhere. Doctor's offices, coaches & even some gym were selling anabolic steroids. Roids back then were as common as creatine is today.
rupp is still ticking despite starting the "supplements" at 14, the testosterone, the NOPe dope, the Oregon Juice, the 26 TUEs, the thyroxin, the hollowed out books, the creatine IVs, the inhalers ...........
Creatine IVs? Wow. Never heard of that one. Of course creatine is neither dangerous nor illegal and is taken by a great many athletes but IVs?? How much creatine would have he been taking? Many benign things become toxic when taken in excess.
rupp is still ticking despite starting the "supplements" at 14, the testosterone, the NOPe dope, the Oregon Juice, the 26 TUEs, the thyroxin, the hollowed out books, the creatine IVs, the inhalers ...........
Creatine IVs? Wow. Never heard of that one. Of course creatine is neither dangerous nor illegal and is taken by a great many athletes but IVs?? How much creatine would have he been taking? Many benign things become toxic when taken in excess.
I graduated in 1990 and there were a dozen or more dudes on the football team doping (graduating class around 300) I can only imagine it’s way worse today
bumping my own post. Is this kid a pro snowboarder? If not, what triggered out of competition testing?
If you look at his FIS profile and results (see link on post #43), he is a snowboard racer who competes in parallel slalom, parallel, giant slalom, giant slalom. He placed as high as 17th at World Juniors this year, and was 14th and 19th at US Nationals.r
Post #1 by rojo quotes Tygarts as saying they got a tip, so that triggered the testing.
bumping my own post. Is this kid a pro snowboarder? If not, what triggered out of competition testing?
He is likely part of USADA's OOC testing pool which requires a minimum of 3 OOC tests each year (per WADA rules). If not in the testing pool, USADA may have done a random OOC tests after following up on a tip or other information that warranted a random OOC test.
The 2019 long jump county champ from my area told me he was on SARMS when he won it when we had a college class together.
He asked me if I was on anything and said if he knew back in HS what he knew now he would've been unstoppable, then said how he did SARMS for football so that probably helped.
Kids have been doping for a while. You could buy "pre workouts" that, idk I'm not a chemist/biologist, metabolized into speed/amphetamine during the early 2000s. Kids in my high school were doing it. Stuff was on the shelves at GNC for a bit. Now they just gotta read some forums and buy from online stores. Not hard to access this information.
Anyone who doesnt think kids in large numbers across the country have access to ped's in the 21st century are terribly naive or just playing the game deny, deny, deny. Shoes help, training efforts help etc but drug cheating helps more especially without any deterence via random testing.
What's a ped? If you can actually answer that question in real Bioenergetics terms, you can have all my money.
Anyone who doesnt think kids in large numbers across the country have access to ped's in the 21st century are terribly naive or just playing the game deny, deny, deny. Shoes help, training efforts help etc but drug cheating helps more especially without any deterence via random testing.
What's a ped? If you can actually answer that question in real Bioenergetics terms, you can have all my money.
Not all PEDs work with bioenergetic systems, so that's a non-starter. If some illegal drug gave me unbreakable bones and connective tissue, that'd be a PED that next has zero to do with energy production during sports.
Anyone who doesnt think kids in large numbers across the country have access to ped's in the 21st century are terribly naive or just playing the game deny, deny, deny. Shoes help, training efforts help etc but drug cheating helps more especially without any deterence via random testing.
Football players were openly taking steroids in the 90's at my unremarkable public high school. The idea that this is some kind of new issue is laughable. HS kids were doing it for decades before I ever set foot in HS.
What's a ped? If you can actually answer that question in real Bioenergetics terms, you can have all my money.
Not all PEDs work with bioenergetic systems, so that's a non-starter. If some illegal drug gave me unbreakable bones and connective tissue, that'd be a PED that next has zero to do with energy production during sports.
Calcium and keratin are inexpensive and completely legal.
Not all PEDs work with bioenergetic systems, so that's a non-starter. If some illegal drug gave me unbreakable bones and connective tissue, that'd be a PED that next has zero to do with energy production during sports.
Calcium and keratin are inexpensive and completely legal.
rupp is still ticking despite starting the "supplements" at 14, the testosterone, the NOPe dope, the Oregon Juice, the 26 TUEs, the thyroxin, the hollowed out books, the creatine IVs, the inhalers ...........
Creatine IVs? Wow. Never heard of that one. Of course creatine is neither dangerous nor illegal and is taken by a great many athletes but IVs?? How much creatine would have he been taking? Many benign things become toxic when taken in excess.
This is one of the reasons why this site blows. Some guy makes something up, and all of a sudden it’s fact. Iv creatinine is not a thing. Likely referring to the iv l-carnitine used by Galen, ritz, and farah.
High schoolers have been doing roids for generations. When I was running cross county way back in the late 70's a friend told me that some boys were experimenting with something called Dianabol. I had no idea what he was talking about since girls didn't do stuff like that in my school and lifting weights was just not a thing for distance runners back then, but the word was out that some boys who were really into weight lifting was doing it. But it was rare, however nowadays it's probably more accepted within certain groups. heck even there was big scandal with Navy Seals roiding up. I was in the military in the 80's and I never heard of people doing steroids back then. Now it seems like everyone is doing them!
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