Ugandan Marathoner Rebecca Cheptegei doused in gasoline and set on fire

It’s true that we should not accept oppression of women as just the culture of a place — is it even the culture of the Afghan women who are no longer allowed to talk in public?

I’m less sure we can describe Kenya as one of “those places” though. It’s far from Afghanistan or Iran geographically and not particularly culturally similar. The linked articles seem to quote the Kenyan police as treating this with the seriousness it deserves. Iran or the Taliban likely wouldn’t care.

She was attacked in Kenya, where she lives and trains.

There is so much F'd up stuff going on. I feel bad for the women involved.

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Man on trial in France accused of repeatedly drugging and having his wife raped by at least 50 strangers for almost 10 years

A man is on trial accused of repeatedly drugging and raping his wife, as well as encouraging dozens of other men to rape her in their home while she was unconscious, court documents show.

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Are we now playing the game of which nation has the bigger douchebag husbands? I throw in Rohan Dennis of Australia that killed his his wife, Melissa Hoskins, just before new year's by hitting her with their car, orphaning their very young children. Both were professional cyclists that competed in previous Olympics:

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Rohan Dennis, husband of former Olympic cyclist Melissa Hoskins, faces court charged with causing her death

Australian Associated Press

Former cycling champion Rohan Dennis charged with recklessly striking his wife with his car in Adelaide’s inner north on 30 December

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from Wikipedia

Necklacing
Necklacing is a method of extrajudicial summary execution and torture carried out by forcing a rubber tire drenched with petrol around a victim's chest and arms, and setting it on fire. The term "necklace" originated in the 1980s in black townships of apartheid South Africa where suspected apartheid collaborators were publicly executed in this fashion.[1]

So burning people is not that uncommon.

That was a whole lotta words to say a whole lotta nothing.

Honestly the reason why I didn't mention any black American abusers was because I didn't immediately think of them...I thought of Scott because of the Netflix doc that just came out. Chris Watts because he reminded me of Scott Peterson...Michael Haight because that reminded me of Watts, and Laundrie just was top of mind? But yeah sure, black american men are capable of being domestic abusers same as white american men?? like, that's not the point?

no idea who emmett till is but i'm no, i'm not ashamed to be white, or a man.

Some countries that have good data are objectively worse than others vis-a-vis gender violence. For example The USA has much higher per capita rates of men killing wives and girlfriends than does Spain. This reflects that it's a much more machista society.

Heed your own advice.

I'm not saying that Kenya is like Iran or Afghanistan. My point is about people who want to pretend, on social justice grounds, that cultural norms don't have any impact on attitudes towards domestic violence. The idea of "those places" is obviously too cut and dry. In many cases we can probably speak more accurate of a gradient.

In America, we have a culture where women are usually treated relatively equally, but this obviously doesn't mean that some men aren't going to use their superior strength to kill or abuse women. Examples of psychopaths like Scott Peterson and Chris Watts don't disprove my point. The vast majority of people in America have internalized the idea that violence against women is bad and unjust. Most men don't need a government overseer to prevent them from hurting women because they believe that women are morally equal and that violence against them is wrong.

The horrific social policies in places like Iran and Afghanistan are one thing, but if all of these were overturned tomorrow, it would probably take a generation or two for attitudes and behaviors towards women to shift substantially. India is a good example. A young doctor was just raped while on her shift at a hopsital, and there are massive protests showing that this behavior is condemned by many. However, the problem of male violence against women is so pervasive that many women will not go out at night alone. In many of these places, if a young woman wore the standard college outfit in the US, she would be leered at, harassed, and potentially in danger.

Now, I'm not suggesting that Westerners should go into these countries to change the culture. We should not, and cultural change generally needs to come from within.

Terrible story and yes, as someone said, it could be career ending.

WE hope she recovers.

It’s not about you. Narcissist.

You don't know about a HUGE moment in American history that happened as recently as the 1950s? Do you live under a rock or did you grow up learning about the "war of northern aggression"?

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Emmett Till

Emmett Louis Till (July 25, 1941 – August 28, 1955) was an African American teenager who was abducted and lynched in Mississippi in 1955 after being accused of offending a white woman, Carolyn Bryant, in her family's grocery...

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White men may or may not feel direct shame, but knowing these events in American history should make us feel a heavy understanding of how white men have contributed to a culture of racism and violence, that we are born with bias, and how black Americans may not feel safe around a lot of us white men.

are you assuming he is american? how is your french or romanian historical knowledge?

Why are you making thread about something other than violence against women?

The other issue is that it's not logical for black Americans to feel unsafe around white men. Cross-race violence is the least prevalent form of violence (Asians may be an exception in that they may be more likely to be violently attacked by somebody who is not Asian), and when it comes to cross-race violence among white and black men in America, white men are much more likely to be the victims than the perpetrators.

White men who do not engage in violence or racism should feel no more guilty than the children of murderers should feel guilty for the crimes of their parents. Free societies do not blame people for things they didn't do.

Also, bias and tribalism are facets of the human condition. We are all borth with these tendencies. All people should attempt to confront their out-group biases and avoid treating other people poorly based on immutable characteristics. The fact that anti-black racism is a historically-recent manifestation of this tribalism is important, but it should not blind us to the tendency of all human beings to denigrate outsiders. You engage in this very tribalism in your post with that business about "the war of northern aggression" and your knee-jerk reaction of conflating lack of familiarity with Emmett Till with global ignorance about racism.

Someone aced the CRT unit.

Coming from you, this sounds quite ironic.