You're being a bit Captain Obvious here. Of course it's paced.
More nuanced breakdown:
Jakob - Would go off as a slight favorite due to it being paced and clearly still in supreme shape after his 7:17 3,000m. But we heard he's been sick a few days ago. In the past, that has affect him like in Monaco 2021 where he ran 3:29-something and Katir/Tim beat him pretty easily. So, he might be a bit diminished for this one, which certainly opens the door if he can "only" run a 3:28-29.
Kerr- Hasn't really shared too much of how he's bounced back from Paris, but will be the freshest in the field for this one. With Jakob's illness, you've got to like his chances because he obviously has been at a very high level all year from Indoor Worlds to Pre to Paris. Last year he ran well after Worlds, and this would be the sort of signature victory for him to call it a season, end up 3-0 vs. Jakob and then do Grand Slam Track.
Nuguse- Just got beat by Giles in a road mile running 3:51.9. Don't want to overreact too much because I suspect he was not anticipating much competition. Still, he looked like he was going hard and there was $ on the line. Downgrade his chances as maybe he's enjoyed his bronze a bit.
Hocker- I am confident he will be a factor here and run a 3:28 type time (if the race is fast) or be competitive if it's slower. Ran decently in Lausanne, but it seems the really fast mid-race pace and adjustment psychologically hit him a bit. Put together a strong workout he showed after, and seems to be intent to closing the season out strong.
Dark Horse (Laros) - Expecting him in here, and skipped World Juniors which would've been a great shot at gold for him. Assuming he did that to beat a lifetime PB here or in the DL Final. He'd be probably the only guy *gaining* fitness at this stage based on his youth and uneven spring.
the above is excellent. wasn't expecting that from the peanut gallery.
if jacob is well and he has pacing till 1Km , then jacob.
if jacob is coming off sickness, like anyone else, you write him off. though hes the only guy i know that would show up with his B game and lay it on the line.
Kerr should be peaking over the rest. He can threaten the WR with the perfect ride to 1300m.
Laros may be 5 th in the world, so he can squeak in there for 3rd.
Hocker can do well if he gets the free ride, and is allowed a free run on the rail via miracle .repeating. which is not so likely.
you have to draft at least 60% of the race no matter who you are.
still cant fathom the OG run by Jacob.
Can't fathom what OG run by Jakob huh???????????????????
Don't you understand there was no other way for Jakob to run the OG except to run it the suicidal or stupid front-leading way sir???????????????????
If Jakob knew he could win it the true sit and kick way 100% do you think he would have fathomed himself doing what he did at OG sir???????
Please really use your brains alright!!!!!!
Jakob simply cannot win unpaced races it's as simple as that!!!!!!!!!!!!
Isn't it paced? I think Hocker had a 3:26 in him in Paris, but idk if he has that in him anymore. Same with Kerr, they typically run their best in championships. Jakob just ran 7:17 though, and I like that kinda fitness in a paced 1500m.
You're being a bit Captain Obvious here. Of course it's paced.
More nuanced breakdown:
Jakob - Would go off as a slight favorite due to it being paced and clearly still in supreme shape after his 7:17 3,000m. But we heard he's been sick a few days ago. In the past, that has affect him like in Monaco 2021 where he ran 3:29-something and Katir/Tim beat him pretty easily. So, he might be a bit diminished for this one, which certainly opens the door if he can "only" run a 3:28-29.
Kerr- Hasn't really shared too much of how he's bounced back from Paris, but will be the freshest in the field for this one. With Jakob's illness, you've got to like his chances because he obviously has been at a very high level all year from Indoor Worlds to Pre to Paris. Last year he ran well after Worlds, and this would be the sort of signature victory for him to call it a season, end up 3-0 vs. Jakob and then do Grand Slam Track.
Nuguse- Just got beat by Giles in a road mile running 3:51.9. Don't want to overreact too much because I suspect he was not anticipating much competition. Still, he looked like he was going hard and there was $ on the line. Downgrade his chances as maybe he's enjoyed his bronze a bit.
Hocker- I am confident he will be a factor here and run a 3:28 type time (if the race is fast) or be competitive if it's slower. Ran decently in Lausanne, but it seems the really fast mid-race pace and adjustment psychologically hit him a bit. Put together a strong workout he showed after, and seems to be intent to closing the season out strong.
Dark Horse (Laros) - Expecting him in here, and skipped World Juniors which would've been a great shot at gold for him. Assuming he did that to beat a lifetime PB here or in the DL Final. He'd be probably the only guy *gaining* fitness at this stage based on his youth and uneven spring.
Your comments and responses are always that----politically correct, always LOL!!!!!!!!!
Reading your stuff for so long now, that's what I have learned about you dear Noah!!!!!!!
You need to take more chances in your reason and persuasion and show all of us on LRC even more nuanced and differential insights the way I do!!!!!
My posts and comments are historically peerless on LRC or anywhere on earth because they inquire about the susceptibility of space and time very voluntarily from a point of a love of RF and of God you feeling me sir?????
Being the best means performing around the year, every year, not showing up for one race and not being able to sustain those performances. Is Wightman still a better runner than Nuguse because he has the global gold and Nuguse doesn't? And just because you're the best doesn't mean you're going to win every race. On top of that, Jakob is the fastest currently active runner in the world.
Hocker needs to prove that the Olympics wasn't a fluke before he can be crowned as the best. We saw what happened when they both benefitted from pacers in Lausanne, Jakob finishes several seconds ahead of Hocker despite Hocker running his second fastest 1500 ever.
You’re discounting the importance of the Olympics and Hocker’s win was not a fluke. In the future, and just like with Centro, people will remember his Olympic win, and not who won DL races, afterwards.
I'm not discounting the importance, I'm saying you need to perform more than once to be the best. Winning the Olympics is a strong indicator that you're the best, but not definitive.
Hocker got paced to a 3 second PB because of a tactical mistake by the favorite, we'll know if it's a fluke or not if Hocker can keep performing. Wightman winning at Worlds was a fluke because he's done nothing of note since then.
You’re discounting the importance of the Olympics and Hocker’s win was not a fluke. In the future, and just like with Centro, people will remember his Olympic win, and not who won DL races, afterwards.
I'm not discounting the importance, I'm saying you need to perform more than once to be the best. Winning the Olympics is a strong indicator that you're the best, but not definitive.
Hocker got paced to a 3 second PB because of a tactical mistake by the favorite, we'll know if it's a fluke or not if Hocker can keep performing. Wightman winning at Worlds was a fluke because he's done nothing of note since then.
LOL you are dissing my other loyal GB leader Wightman????????? Wightman hasn't performed of note since because he practiced clean duh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And Wightman didn't run a 3 second PB to win in Eugene, he ran a 0.25 second one instead, that's the right ballpark of a clean athlete's improvement, below 1s, indeed below 0.5s!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! After 3 rounds of 1500m that is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If athletes are hardly improving 1 second per year in the 1500m in a time trial with no rounds and with pace setters and wavelights, how is Hocker improving 3 seconds per year in the 1500m in a non-time-trial with 3 rounds and no pace setters and wavelights????????
Pls answer me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You can't right???? You couldn't find a susceptible enough reason to beat mine right sir??????????????
Isn't it paced? I think Hocker had a 3:26 in him in Paris, but idk if he has that in him anymore. Same with Kerr, they typically run their best in championships. Jakob just ran 7:17 though, and I like that kinda fitness in a paced 1500m.
You're being a bit Captain Obvious here. Of course it's paced.
More nuanced breakdown:
Jakob - Would go off as a slight favorite due to it being paced and clearly still in supreme shape after his 7:17 3,000m. But we heard he's been sick a few days ago. In the past, that has affect him like in Monaco 2021 where he ran 3:29-something and Katir/Tim beat him pretty easily. So, he might be a bit diminished for this one, which certainly opens the door if he can "only" run a 3:28-29.
Kerr- Hasn't really shared too much of how he's bounced back from Paris, but will be the freshest in the field for this one. With Jakob's illness, you've got to like his chances because he obviously has been at a very high level all year from Indoor Worlds to Pre to Paris. Last year he ran well after Worlds, and this would be the sort of signature victory for him to call it a season, end up 3-0 vs. Jakob and then do Grand Slam Track.
Nuguse- Just got beat by Giles in a road mile running 3:51.9. Don't want to overreact too much because I suspect he was not anticipating much competition. Still, he looked like he was going hard and there was $ on the line. Downgrade his chances as maybe he's enjoyed his bronze a bit.
Hocker- I am confident he will be a factor here and run a 3:28 type time (if the race is fast) or be competitive if it's slower. Ran decently in Lausanne, but it seems the really fast mid-race pace and adjustment psychologically hit him a bit. Put together a strong workout he showed after, and seems to be intent to closing the season out strong.
Dark Horse (Laros) - Expecting him in here, and skipped World Juniors which would've been a great shot at gold for him. Assuming he did that to beat a lifetime PB here or in the DL Final. He'd be probably the only guy *gaining* fitness at this stage based on his youth and uneven spring.
I think this is a pretty good assessment. This is about as good of a field as we’ve ever seen in a post-Olympics diamond league. My pick is Jakob, since he very rarely loses diamond league races these days, but I’m excited to see what happens.
Don’t discount the Kenyans either. They didn’t have it in the Olympic final, but they aren’t slow.
Big race for everyone running. For Jakob, it's a chance to maybe beat the WR. Kerr needs to win again, after Paris and months off competition. Hocker wants to prove he isn't just a one race wonder, and Nuguse needs to stop being blown away by the others. EXCITING!
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the above is excellent. wasn't expecting that from the peanut gallery.
if jacob is well and he has pacing till 1Km , then jacob.
if jacob is coming off sickness, like anyone else, you write him off. though hes the only guy i know that would show up with his B game and lay it on the line.
Kerr should be peaking over the rest. He can threaten the WR with the perfect ride to 1300m.
Laros may be 5 th in the world, so he can squeak in there for 3rd.
Hocker can do well if he gets the free ride, and is allowed a free run on the rail via miracle .repeating. which is not so likely.
you have to draft at least 60% of the race no matter who you are.
still cant fathom the OG run by Jacob.
Can't fathom what OG run by Jakob huh???????????????????
Don't you understand there was no other way for Jakob to run the OG except to run it the suicidal or stupid front-leading way sir???????????????????
If Jakob knew he could win it the true sit and kick way 100% do you think he would have fathomed himself doing what he did at OG sir???????
Please really use your brains alright!!!!!!
Jakob simply cannot win unpaced races it's as simple as that!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well, we know Kerr couldn’t win the Big One against the Mighty King Cole.
Big race for everyone running. For Jakob, it's a chance to maybe beat the WR. Kerr needs to win again, after Paris and months off competition. Hocker wants to prove he isn't just a one race wonder, and Nuguse needs to stop being blown away by the others. EXCITING!
Since when does Nuguse get blown away by the others? he lost silver by 0.01 to King Kerr, beat Jakob and was 0.15 from gold in Paris
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People conveniently ignore hocker smartly hiding in the thick of a big pack early. Giving him up to a 2 sec per 400 advantage over Jakob. Same with Kerr and Nuguse who were both paced and got their 1 sec adv per 400 over Jakob.
Olympics 1500 isn't about who is the best 1500 guy, it is not like the 100 or 200 were the actual best guy wins. It is 100% tactics. Who can hide long enough to benefit the most
Interesting that Kerr is still on the elite list to run the 5th Avenue Mile on Sunday. Maybe because he's the defending champion? No Hocker, Nuguse. Could he run both?
Interesting that Kerr is still on the elite list to run the 5th Avenue Mile on Sunday. Maybe because he's the defending champion? No Hocker, Nuguse. Could he run both?
The logical assertion is he is doing Zurich and 5th Ave then calling it a season. The others are likely Zurich and Brussels.
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