I applaud you for not having one of your volcanic temper tantrums. We can agree to disagree about the value of rabbits, as you say, lights matter too. Has anyone ever soloed a 3:27? Surely Jakob has not? Rabbits matter a lot. I will also add that Jakob has NEVER run a race superior to Timothy Cheruiyot in Doha in 2019, faster yes but not superior.
I think you may be very wrong -Jakob’s Silesia race last year might have been a 3.27 high solo (very little help from the pacers)..! And his 3.26.73 is neither that far away from a high 3.27 un paced…
With some luck Jakob may do a 3.27 in Paris. He then must avoid too much time loss in the first bend, and he must also probably improve his Monaco shape with 0.5 sec (realistic in my view by the last two weeks preparations)…
So why could Jakob do this 3.27 in a way nobody has done before? Well, reread Salvitore’s posts -I think he hit the nail here..!
I mentioned about the Silesia poor wind pacing first. Did you copy me sir????
I think I said that 2 weeks ago on the board. Jakob received no proper wind drafting in Silesia and if he did he would have already ran 3:26:73 and faster. Jakob is just as fit this year as last, not more or less fit.
No, I disagree with Salvitore's posts, Jakob shall not run 3:27 leading from gun to tape as just the 1st 150m-200m would have already consumed all his energy trying to get the lead.
Instead, Jakob will hold back in at least the first 300m-400m and let them runners jostle for position then take over from there which means he forgo the 1st lap and run it slower which means 3:27 is out of the question. Even 3:28 will be hard. If it's 3:28 it would be 3:28:99 and not 3:28:01, you feeling me sir????? It will likely be a 3:29 race again.
If Jakob jostles for the lead in first 200m, and after 2 rounds and after 3 days, HE IS FINISHED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HE IS GOING HOME WITH A SILVER OR BRONZE MEDAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Yeah but your hypothetical is not realistic so it is pointless to address it. Jakob cannot run 3:27 without rabbits. He ran 3:26.73 recently at the famously fast Monaco, and that was with rabbits. Jakob knows he will be the hunted but he cannot run faster than 3:28 in a global championship without rabbits. This is not to say he cannot win but he cannot do so by running 3:27 unless someone paces him, which is theoretically possible but highly unlikely.
My god I am going to love coming back to this thread and bumping it if Jakob runs under 3.28 in the final from the front and wins it.
The thing is, he might not even have to - he might also be the only guy in the field right now capable of running 3.28.50 in the final. I just read Gaults piece where Mackey thinks Kerr was also in 3.26 shape after Jakob ran it in Monaco - I would just say that this might be nice to theorize (from Mackeys side) - it's another thing to go out and actually do it. Do I think Josh Kerr can go out and drop his PR from 3.29.05 to sub 3.27 in one race? Zero chance. Go and put yourself through 1200m in under 2.47 at least once or twice before we start talking about running 3.26.xx. Also, it's going to be a taxing 4 days - heat and a very high level to get to the final - the highest ever. I personally think Jakobs 5000m endurance is going to be very helpful.
I'm going to also disagree with you regarding "rabbits" - I actually don't think that under the current way races are trained for an executed a rabbit really means that much anymore. Jakob is still running these times with just wavelight - he spends more time in races looking at that first green light that he does at the back of his pacer. Now the easy comeback here is "well there is no WL in Paris so he's f-ed", that's true, there isn't WL but I believe this is where the value of consistent racing and perfecting this craft could and will pay off for him. If he gets it right through 800m (mid 1.51's off a low 56 first lap) then I don't see the 3rd lap dropping because at this point it's becoming almost like muscle memory for him.
But let's see, we are going to know the answer to this in less than a weeks time.
WOW, you come across as being overconfident just like me LOL!!!!!
You seem cocksure sir!!!!! But so am I, I am very cocksure that Josh Kerr kicks the hell out of Jakob even in a 3:27 race which is unlikely for me after 2 rounds and after 3 days and with Paris city's powerful anthropogenic 5G RF beaming down on Jakob's body 24/7 and actually everywhere in Paris even in his own bedroom and toilet. The same for Josh as well.
I understand that it has been done before by Hicham El King Guerrouj with his 3:27:65 in Seville also in high heat conditions but do remember those were the times of anthropogenic 2G airwaves flying around in the air, not 5G and 4G which dominates the airwaves now. I also understand that supershoes and doped track surfaces could illegally make things easier for Jakob to run 3:27 after 2 rounds and after 3 days, I don't deny that.
However, my RF expertise tells me that the human population in 2024 is generally much weaker and inferior in high-performance capacity and general human health than the human population in 1997. Their legs are less strong, their muscles are less powerful, their brains are more 'brain damaged' and their nervous systems are more 'electrocuted' and 'shorted' due to more powerful anthropogenic 5G and 4G RF exposure over the years, you feeling me sir???
So it's going to be less likely that Jakob runs from the front in 3:27. It might be a 3:28 more likely and a high 3:28 after 2 rounds and after 3 days with all the 5G/4G and all flying around in the air and into their athlete bodies to affect them and slow them down.
I mentioned about the Silesia poor wind pacing first. Did you copy me sir????
I think I said that 2 weeks ago on the board. Jakob received no proper wind drafting in Silesia and if he did he would have already ran 3:26:73 and faster. Jakob is just as fit this year as last, not more or less fit.
No, I disagree with Salvitore's posts, Jakob shall not run 3:27 leading from gun to tape as just the 1st 150m-200m would have already consumed all his energy trying to get the lead.
Instead, Jakob will hold back in at least the first 300m-400m and let them runners jostle for position then take over from there which means he forgo the 1st lap and run it slower which means 3:27 is out of the question. Even 3:28 will be hard. If it's 3:28 it would be 3:28:99 and not 3:28:01, you feeling me sir????? It will likely be a 3:29 race again.
If Jakob jostles for the lead in first 200m, and after 2 rounds and after 3 days, HE IS FINISHED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HE IS GOING HOME WITH A SILVER OR BRONZE MEDAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes, I feeling you.
And I hear that you claim that you and Coevett are both equally mentally healthy. And that Jakob will burn a lot of energy the first 100/200m…
I agree in some of your sayings.. F.ex I too think that some of the disadvantage with a wire to wire front running from Jakob would be the burn in the first 200m. But I also think that an ideal race is almost impossible -one has to give something to receive something. And even if Jakob loses some time or momentum here and there I think he still can do a 3.27… What Kerr can do I don’t know -that is the exciting thing..!
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My god I am going to love coming back to this thread and bumping it if Jakob runs under 3.28 in the final from the front and wins it.
The thing is, he might not even have to - he might also be the only guy in the field right now capable of running 3.28.50 in the final. I just read Gaults piece where Mackey thinks Kerr was also in 3.26 shape after Jakob ran it in Monaco - I would just say that this might be nice to theorize (from Mackeys side) - it's another thing to go out and actually do it. Do I think Josh Kerr can go out and drop his PR from 3.29.05 to sub 3.27 in one race? Zero chance. Go and put yourself through 1200m in under 2.47 at least once or twice before we start talking about running 3.26.xx. Also, it's going to be a taxing 4 days - heat and a very high level to get to the final - the highest ever. I personally think Jakobs 5000m endurance is going to be very helpful.
I'm going to also disagree with you regarding "rabbits" - I actually don't think that under the current way races are trained for an executed a rabbit really means that much anymore. Jakob is still running these times with just wavelight - he spends more time in races looking at that first green light that he does at the back of his pacer. Now the easy comeback here is "well there is no WL in Paris so he's f-ed", that's true, there isn't WL but I believe this is where the value of consistent racing and perfecting this craft could and will pay off for him. If he gets it right through 800m (mid 1.51's off a low 56 first lap) then I don't see the 3rd lap dropping because at this point it's becoming almost like muscle memory for him.
But let's see, we are going to know the answer to this in less than a weeks time.
I will bump ALL of your Jakob-boasting posts when he loses. I just ask you one thing: NO MORE EXCUSES
Not sure if he is just past his peak, or that his training partner and close friend got busted.
He's still inconsistant, and hasn't won a race this season. He pushed Jakob in Oslo when Jakob was coming back from injury and had run a 3:45 mile in the USA just five days previously.
He came 3rd in the Kenyan trials. When he won in Doha he had ran a 1:43.11 800m. Running 3:28.7 two seconds behind Jakob in Monaco makes you only an outside bet for a medal. Kerr would have ran 3:26 and Laros 3:27.
Of course, he is Kenyan, so there's always the possibility he could get boosted before the Games.
But he doesn't seem to have the fitness to handle rounds anymore. His best showing in a Championship since Tokyo is 2nd at the Commonwealth Games in 2022. He struggles to come in the top 3 even in Kenyan Championships these days.
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