Wow, I have never heard of this guy other than seeing his name in thread titles once in a while which I never had any interest in clicking. Just did a quick search of the board and found these. It is tough to find stuff on Google because the actor Matthew Fox has been arrested and I get hundreds of hits for that.
In the latest Sweat Elite podcast (#59 Matt Fox and Angus Teeton), Matt Fox discusses being banned from filming a training group in Boulder. He said he dated a girl in another group B, and the coach took issue. The couch from...
So back in 2017, a group of friends and I took a trip to Iten, Kenya for 3 months to see what we could make of the culture, altitude and all the crazy athletes out there. All of us were at an average to good level (PBs 33:00...
The irony of this situation is Matt has apparently spent more time writing hateful messages to his client than it would have taken to send that client a human message commenting on his race.
Matt gets arrested at 6 AM in Scotland for trying to break down the door of his ex girlfriend in 2021. The 80 year old woman next door called the police first. Matt succeeds in intimidating her to not press charges as she thinks it will go away.
Few weeks later Matt emails her private nudes to her employer. That backfires and he gets a lawsuit and a criminal charge from that woman’s firm so he can’t go to that certain country (different from Scotland) without arrest at passport. Similar to Finland where he can no longer go after what happened with his ex Finnish fiancé there.
pretty sure he also married Reem as a way to get back to the U.S. and be able to live here. not sure how she justifies all of the messes he has created every where he goes.. especially since its public knowledge?
Matt gets arrested at 6 AM in Scotland for trying to break down the door of his ex girlfriend in 2021. The 80 year old woman next door called the police first. Matt succeeds in intimidating her to not press charges as she thinks it will go away.
Few weeks later Matt emails her private nudes to her employer. That backfires and he gets a lawsuit and a criminal charge from that woman’s firm so he can’t go to that certain country (different from Scotland) without arrest at passport. Similar to Finland where he can no longer go after what happened with his ex Finnish fiancé there.
pretty sure he also married Reem as a way to get back to the U.S. and be able to live here. not sure how she justifies all of the messes he has created every where he goes.. especially since its public knowledge?
Can confirm- when I saw him last (early 2021) and asked what his plan for staying in the US was, he said that he “just has to get an American wife now- searching for that green card.” Also, searching through his finance’s page, it’s crazy to see how he turned a relatively devout muslim woman to a life of sin and travel- classic narcissist move to destabilize someone from their home like that.
The irony of this situation is Matt has apparently spent more time writing hateful messages to his client than it would have taken to send that client a human message commenting on his race.
Maybe he's using chatgpt to write the deranged responses too.
Prompt: "Write disturbing stream of consciousness reply littered with spelling and grammatical errors and try to crowbar Israel into every third message. Make me seem as unlikeable as possible and threaten the correspondent with vague, woolly legal threats. Suggest that they're not worthy of anything other than an anonymous chatgpt response addressed to the wrong person, despite the fact that they're paying through the nose to receive my coaching."
Lmao this is so out of left field yet not at the same time. Didn't have this guy pegged as a massive antisemite but I'm not surprised.
No idea of his past opinions but since meeting and getting engaged to his (Palestinian) partner, there has been an increasing amount of IG stories that referenced the Israel/Palestine conflict, how it has directly effected her and people she knows + them intending to do the 'Palestine Marathon' together [which I believe was cancelled]
Point it, this all seems somewhat new and motivated by his new relationship, however in no world would I have predicted the messages would've been this extreme, even if it was his new opinion.
With 0 other context about MF I would've been tempted to write them off as him being hacked because they're so vulgar but with everything else we know about him, if the shoe fits...
Matty is like 38 years old and still lives off a stipend from his mommy back in Australia. Perhaps that’s why he’s so angry?
Yikes, I googled him last night because I had no idea who he was, and I would have guessed he was pushing 50. I guess holding all that anger and hatred ages you.
Or...something else. Jose Canseco and Barry Bonds look older than they are too.
Not to stereotype, but it’s seemed like he’s wanted to go into the film industry with a few of his videos. And he thinks criticizing Israel / Jews will help?
cancel the fool. do runfluencers get cancelled though? the sport has a chauvinism problem...
I think a lot of them aren't cancelled because they have so many stans/followers that will back them. It's a huge popularity contest. I see it on Blogsnark too.
The worrying thing is how often he behaves like this and seems to get away with it.
A bit of heat on letsrun then next week he's got another brand deal or elite athlete to work with. Are brands not concerned about this kind of thing? Is a few thousand views on a YouTube video worth more?
Maybe it will be different this time as the recipients of his abuse have shared it publicly (although he's also been quite happy to share it publicly himself - IE Strava)
Whilst the abuse is particularly shocking this time, in general it's just par for the course.
Anyone who calls him out finds themself on the receiving end of abuse and threats of this sort of 'ive got X amount of followers I'm going to tell them Y'
Now even if Y is just completely fabricated most people decide to just back off and distance themselves rather than get into a public spat with someone who just has no moral compass at all.
I think that is understandable on their behalf as it's stressful - I guess that's why he does it! but it does give the impression that many of his earlier transgressions (a few of which were summarised above), are somewhat minor. But behind the scenes, they also involve these personal attacks.
I wonder if he's too big to fail--people (not here) in general don't probe enough to really see his mistakes. So he's able to use his power and push everyone around. I would love to see RW or some legacy outlets call him out. I'm sure their editors know.
Why not Believe in the Run (Thomas and Meghan) and/or Choi or even better yet, Citius Mag (Chavez?).
I wonder if he's too big to fail--people (not here) in general don't probe enough to really see his mistakes.
Surely those in his latest videos- Engels, Kessler, Hoppel- are embedded enough in the running community to know that associating themselves with him is toxic? Or surely someone in their inner/outer circles is warning them? The abuse allegations aren't new and are very serious. His frequent meltdowns and 'burn all bridges' fall outs with previous associates would surely lead most athletes to run for the hills (without him filming on a bike) before agreeing any sort of content deal with him?!
Jakob appears to have sense, he opted for Flotrack to film his recent workout.
The worrying thing is how often he behaves like this and seems to get away with it.
A bit of heat on letsrun then next week he's got another brand deal or elite athlete to work with. Are brands not concerned about this kind of thing? Is a few thousand views on a YouTube video worth more?
Maybe it will be different this time as the recipients of his abuse have shared it publicly (although he's also been quite happy to share it publicly himself - IE Strava)
Whilst the abuse is particularly shocking this time, in general it's just par for the course.
Anyone who calls him out finds themself on the receiving end of abuse and threats of this sort of 'ive got X amount of followers I'm going to tell them Y'
Now even if Y is just completely fabricated most people decide to just back off and distance themselves rather than get into a public spat with someone who just has no moral compass at all.
I think that is understandable on their behalf as it's stressful - I guess that's why he does it! but it does give the impression that many of his earlier transgressions (a few of which were summarised above), are somewhat minor. But behind the scenes, they also involve these personal attacks.
I wonder if he's too big to fail--people (not here) in general don't probe enough to really see his mistakes. So he's able to use his power and push everyone around. I would love to see RW or some legacy outlets call him out. I'm sure their editors know.
Why not Believe in the Run (Thomas and Meghan) and/or Choi or even better yet, Citius Mag (Chavez?).
I'd be going to Citius and letting them know.
No way Citius is touching this with a 10' pole. Now Kevin Beck on the other hand.......
I wonder if he's too big to fail--people (not here) in general don't probe enough to really see his mistakes.
Surely those in his latest videos- Engels, Kessler, Hoppel- are embedded enough in the running community to know that associating themselves with him is toxic? Or surely someone in their inner/outer circles is warning them? The abuse allegations aren't new and are very serious. His frequent meltdowns and 'burn all bridges' fall outs with previous associates would surely lead most athletes to run for the hills (without him filming on a bike) before agreeing any sort of content deal with him?!
Jakob appears to have sense, he opted for Flotrack to film his recent workout.
I think most pro runners aren't as plugged in to stuff like this as we think. They know what they hear at meets and what their training circle talks about but I doubt they check the boards (that's basically the only place I've seen this aired out). I'm sure even if they did check, they don't have the best opinion of LetsRun so it could be explained away by Fox as just trolls or someone trying to smear him. As I mentioned earlier, it struck me that in the Cooper/Cole video, Rachel wasn't there. Again, I could see her knowing something about Fox from the Boulder circle but I'm also a little surprised she wouldn't fill in the other SOVA guys to steer clear.
I wonder if he's too big to fail--people (not here) in general don't probe enough to really see his mistakes. So he's able to use his power and push everyone around. I would love to see RW or some legacy outlets call him out. I'm sure their editors know.
Why not Believe in the Run (Thomas and Meghan) and/or Choi or even better yet, Citius Mag (Chavez?).
I'd be going to Citius and letting them know.
Let's see if the BroJo's have the balls to run the story... There's no way they aren't well aware of it given their message board is about the only place it gets spoken about publicly.
I suspect that if there was a serious story being written about it then numerous other cases would come forward as well.
Otherwise it seems like he will get away with it again! We will all move on in a few days time, he will make his Insta profiles public again and will easily be able to manage the minimal kickback he gets once it's calmed down, and the damage to his reputation amongst his big following will be minor.
And we will all wait with bated breath for the next episode.
Surely those in his latest videos- Engels, Kessler, Hoppel- are embedded enough in the running community to know that associating themselves with him is toxic? Or surely someone in their inner/outer circles is warning them? The abuse allegations aren't new and are very serious. His frequent meltdowns and 'burn all bridges' fall outs with previous associates would surely lead most athletes to run for the hills (without him filming on a bike) before agreeing any sort of content deal with him?!
Jakob appears to have sense, he opted for Flotrack to film his recent workout.
I think most pro runners aren't as plugged in to stuff like this as we think. They know what they hear at meets and what their training circle talks about but I doubt they check the boards (that's basically the only place I've seen this aired out). I'm sure even if they did check, they don't have the best opinion of LetsRun so it could be explained away by Fox as just trolls or someone trying to smear him. As I mentioned earlier, it struck me that in the Cooper/Cole video, Rachel wasn't there. Again, I could see her knowing something about Fox from the Boulder circle but I'm also a little surprised she wouldn't fill in the other SOVA guys to steer clear.
Good point about the pros and Fox's potential counter.
I wonder if he's too big to fail--people (not here) in general don't probe enough to really see his mistakes. So he's able to use his power and push everyone around. I would love to see RW or some legacy outlets call him out. I'm sure their editors know.
Why not Believe in the Run (Thomas and Meghan) and/or Choi or even better yet, Citius Mag (Chavez?).
I'd be going to Citius and letting them know.
Let's see if the BroJo's have the balls to run the story... There's no way they aren't well aware of it given their message board is about the only place it gets spoken about publicly.
I suspect that if there was a serious story being written about it then numerous other cases would come forward as well.
Otherwise it seems like he will get away with it again! We will all move on in a few days time, he will make his Insta profiles public again and will easily be able to manage the minimal kickback he gets once it's calmed down, and the damage to his reputation amongst his big following will be minor.
And we will all wait with bated breath for the next episode.
If Fox has a professional background with media and knows how news cycles work, he could very well do this. Wait it out. I may be 100% wrong, of course.
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