Allie O!!!!!

Didn't she serve some sort of ban recently?

Stop trolling

Allie O is good but Pamela is way talented. She hasn't raced track since June last year. Obviously, Allie ran like an idiot, I didn't see the way she was in the lane two through….If she was strong, she would have taken off but college made that hard for her

Allie Ostrander should try running under the hurdles, maybe the officials wouldn't notice. She'd go a lot faster

Allie certainly did NOT "run like an idiot".....she won the race and got a new PR! Sure, Allie can improve even more (and she mentioned this in her latest race report video on Youtube which shows the race footage), but tactically that was a great race imo.

Consider this: The track featured water pit jumps on the outside lanes (unusual)....coming off the back straight in lane 2 isn't so bad if it gives you a clear line to the water pit....which is on the *outside* of the track in this case!

If someone is boxing you out of lane 1/the rail on the turn of a 3k SC it's probably worth it (from an energy standpoint) to maintain your rhythm and stay in lane 2 rather than try to surge to the front or tuck in behind them. Allie explains this quite well in the video...the advantage of being able to have a more clear visual on the jump approaching (and being beside someone instead of behind them) is worth the marginal extra distance.

That's what I thought, too. She was just kind of hopping off the barriers, and landing way too short.

It sort of looks like she forgot some basic things she used to know well about steepling.

But I think she and her coach will obviously see it too, and she'll correct it by trials --and that might be a couple of seconds right there.

I don't know if I think she's 9:10, but she's objectively probably in sub-9:20 shape right now.

When she said a few months back her shot was 1%, I thought she was being purposely conservative, and it was maybe more like 3-5%.

Then Emma and Courtney both went out, and I thought it might be closer to 8 or 10.

Then a whole bunch of girls ran or looked like they might run sub-9:20, and I thought, Nah, even though she's going really well, it probably still is a distant long-shot.

Now, the last few weeks, we've seen some of the top gals run some mediocre races, and Allie's looking better and better, and more and more confident, and is still on a major upswing.

If everything broke right, and Trials goes out hard (like it probably will, unless it's crazy-hot or something), could she maybe hit a 9:18, or even 9:15? I think it's plausible.

Is there a shot that could get her top 3? Yeah, there's a shot.

I'm walking her up to 10-15% now.

Go Allie!

I'd go higher. Watched the full race again and counted the number of curves she was in lane 2, and it was 7 of 14 curves. Plus another two/three curves on the outside of lane 1. Add that up, and it was a 9:19.x performance, which would put her #5 on the US 2024 list. Even if you assume that no one gets to run in lane 1 all the time, sub-9:21 would still be #5 on the US 2024 list. If I were top 6 in an event, I'd tell myself that I had a 50/50 chance, even if it weren't quite true.

I'd say she has at least a 33% chance. No one is really a lock. Constien, Wayment, Jennings, and Mitchell were only 5, 6, 7, and 8 at Prefontaine, dragged to their season's best times in that race. You'd expect Allie to be right in there with them if that race were run next week. And of course, we know Allie always has a good last lap and has a lot momentum.

That final will be quite crowded. The top 14 women in the US have all run 9:31 or faster (the top 12 have run 9:28 and faster). Last year, the 14th fastest was a 9:42. However, the fastest woman in the US has “only” run 9:14. So they could get bunched up. This is a scary scenario in the steeple.

I can see it go out in 9:15 pace or faster. The women steeple is the slowest race on the track (they are actually going 10s to 15s slower per Km than the men’s marathon). Therefore, the drafting effect is not as important (certainly not like the men 1500m). Furthermore, having a clear view of the hurdle is positive, so is not having to chop your stride because the woman ahead of you chopped her stride.

Long story short, Constien and Wayment will not want to run in the middle of the pack. They will try to get rid of half the finalists in the first 3 or 4 laps for sure. Why risk being clipped, having someone fall in front of you in the water pit, run extra meters… A sub 9:15 pace will do that. They have proven that they can handle that.

Allie will need to find them early and stay on the rail behind them. At least be there within 3 laps.

She technically didn't get popped for doping, moron. They looked at all the evidence and believed her story, thus the minimal suspension of only four months. The drug she was taking is NOT a PED, so it's not doping. It can potentially be used as a masking agent, but it doesn't mean it was masking anything. The totality of evidence they looked at beside the Rx likely includes anything else that might make someone suspicious, like bio-passport results. I mean, they sure didn't believe Shelby. They aren't gullible.

If they had found she was actually intentionally doping, it's a minimum two-year suspension, not the four months she got. See Article 10 starting on page 60, "Sanctions on Individuals":

I too enjoy watching Allie O's social media and racing. I think she's poised to run faster at the trials and could get under the Olympic standard. I saw the same thing regarding her water barrier technique in that it didn't seem like there was a lot of push, she landed deep more often than not (at least when coverage included the jump), and she may have needed two strides to get out of the water. I thought her hurdle technique was solid throughout and would hazard a guess that she clear the majority of them in stride.

I did not know about the 4 month ban.

She essentially won three NCAA steeplechase titles in a row with a girl's body not fully through the last stage of puberty (Tanner stage 5) until she was 25. Now she finally getting the boost that most pro women have due to maturation to adult woman's body. As an example, both Coburn and Frerichs both cut off 20+ seconds in the steeplechase from college to pro peak. Can we being seeing the beginnings of such a jump for Allie? (Also, imagine how fast Koko could run if she really fueled her body?)

Allie O is one of the few running YouTubers that I think does real, tangible good for the sport.

I ran for a NIRCA club in college, and it was really horrifying how many teammates I had (especially girls, but not exclusively) who had been really promising HS runners -- some going so far as accepting D1 offers that they later had to back out of -- and had their athletic careers absolutely derailed by eating disorders.

To see an athlete who has so publicly struggled with an ED come back so much stronger after recovery will do an enormous amount of good -- whether or not she makes the Olympics. I'll always scream my head off for Allie Ostrander.

The results of a google search for spironolactone and wada:

please stop making sense, the trolls here can’t handle it

Do you realize that Shelby got popped by AIU and Allie got cleared by USADA? USADA is not really into popping Americans or Molly would have also served a suspension.

Most human being confront significant adversity in life. Overcoming it is pretty much the definition of living right. Heck yeah there are lots of threads. Heck yeah the number of people who are here for it outnumber you 20 to one. Gives me hope in humanity! Here of all places!

I know what they won't say - "Thank you so much for autistic-sounding witch hunt against her, random LetsRun poster."