Read it again, it's not just the towel incident: "According to the indictment, the family violence must have taken place in the period between 2018 and until 5 January 2022. The two-page indictment describes threats, coercion, violence, limited freedom of movement and other forms of violations."
Yes, it sounds like he may have grounded her or worse perhaps, he may have instructed her to go to her room.
Your post got mostly downvoted but reading that list of violations makes me sincerely curious to know what Scandinavian culture considers to be appropriate ways for parents to handle misbehaving children.
Depending on one’s interpretation, typical nonviolent strategies we use in the US such as timeouts, grounding, removal of privileges (phone access, for example), or telling a child they won’t get to do something they want (e.g., go out to the movies) if they don’t behave could fall under one or more of those violations.
Terese Braut Våge, head of police in southeastern Norway, told The Associated Press that cases involving five other alleged victims had been dismissed “on the basis of the evidence” and in one case because of a statute of limitations.
Norwegian police say the father and former coach of Olympic champion runner Jakob Ingebrigtsen has been charged with abusing one of his other children.
Read it again, it's not just the towel incident: "According to the indictment, the family violence must have taken place in the period between 2018 and until 5 January 2022. The two-page indictment describes threats, coercion, violence, limited freedom of movement and other forms of violations."
Also, luckily, just because "most of the world beats their children" doesn't mean it is an ok thing to do in Norway, where that is not allowed to do.
The logic behind “My parents beat me when I was a kid and I turned out just fine” can be taken to ridiculous ridiculous extents.
Just a couple days ago out at work I put my hand up to give a 4-5ish year old a high five and he flinched super hard.
People who discipline their kids with physical violence aren’t doing it to discipline their kids. It’s to take out frustration and assert dominance in a gross primal monkey way. There are plenty of ways to discipline a kid that does not involve physically hurting them, anyone that chooses to physically hurt their kid over another punishment that would be PROVEN TIME AND TIME AGAIN JUST AS, IF NOT MORE EFFICIENT has issues and I will stand on that.
You aren’t tuff for hitting your kids, you aren’t tuff for getting hit by your parents, and hitting your kids doesn’t make them tuff. You just have anger management issues, I promise, and I will bet money that those emotional control issues seep into aspects of your life other than the innate need to physically dominate your own kid.
Yes, it sounds like he may have grounded her or worse perhaps, he may have instructed her to go to her room.
Your post got mostly downvoted but reading that list of violations makes me sincerely curious to know what Scandinavian culture considers to be appropriate ways for parents to handle misbehaving children.
Depending on one’s interpretation, typical nonviolent strategies we use in the US such as timeouts, grounding, removal of privileges (phone access, for example), or telling a child they won’t get to do something they want (e.g., go out to the movies) if they don’t behave could fall under one or more of those violations.
“hitting the face with a wet towel so that a red mark appeared”: That’s it? If so, the whole thing sounds like theater. Most of the world sometimes beats their children. A red mark goes away pretty soon, especially on white skin.
HARDLY something to be going out and saying this while being proud about it
Wtf pride are you on about and what’s with the gratuitous capitalization? It is my opinion that a parent on rare occasions hitting their child with a towel to just cause a red mark is nothing. That’s it. I have no qualms openly saying it. And white skin reddens easily (even just out of shame or blushing with no physical contact) and also un-reddens just as easily in those cases, is all I meant.
Yes, it sounds like he may have grounded her or worse perhaps, he may have instructed her to go to her room.
You're probably from a country where law enforcement is some sort of clown show, because you don't get indicted for charges like these in Norway unless there's convincing evidence of serious violations.
This is a weird take, but this whole siblings turning against their Dad/coach thing makes me think that there’s actually a chance that Jacob is clean.
Would you try to destroy the life & career (even if justified) of someone that could easily destroy yours?
He loves his kids. He doesn’t strike me as someone who would want to return the favor and ruin their lives out of spite. Plus it would be damning for himself as well.
I'm struggling to understand how hitting a kid with a wet towel once is anything more serious than an overreaction. This is a guy devoted to his kids who trained three of them to the very top level in Europe, while working a full time job. Sometimes his attitude was clearly counter-productive, but there is no basis whatsoever for charging him with a crime based on what I have seen here as the charge.
So you think someone should go to jail for hitting someone with a towel?
He didn't go to jail, and I would guess that he won't go to prison even if he is convicted. If I'm wrong, he can take solace in knowing that Norwegian prison falls somewhere between American assisted living and Holiday Inn Express.
Three sons came forward saying there was abuse and a significant amount of posters defended Gjert to the hilt and accused the brothers of making it up. Now specific charges come about him abusing Ingrid and a significant amount of posters are still defending Gjert. Investigators are confident enough to take this to court now.
Of course Gjert could be innocent and this could be some large misunderstanding or family conspiracy. By the numbers and basic credibility of the children I think you should seriously be biased towards believing the accusers at this point no? The only defense I have seen is the fourth brother saying he was not physically abusive to him.
My take is I watched the series. Gjert was weirdly serious about literally everything in the show. He very clearly had a temper and an obsession that seemed unhealthy (even if it did produce a family of runners). Occam's razor at this point, to me at least, is he has a temper and probably has acted on it.
Guy should be in prison - no parent should ever threaten or hit a kid in any way. In fact parents should not even talk back, the kid is always right (parents suck). He should have been made to take a "parents" course before being allowed to have children - he would have failed, and would have cost us a Jakob (perhaps), but the kids wouldn't now be haters. But then I also blame the soft Scandinavian culture these days - need to bring in Game of Thrones or at least the Vikings to resurrect some toughness in that area again. Eye for an eye, tit for a tat, that kind of thing.
This is a weird take, but this whole siblings turning against their Dad/coach thing makes me think that there’s actually a chance that Jacob is clean.
Would you try to destroy the life & career (even if justified) of someone that could easily destroy yours?
He loves his kids. He doesn’t strike me as someone who would want to return the favor and ruin their lives out of spite. Plus it would be damning for himself as well.
This is the correct take. Extremely unlikely Gert would go nuclear on his offspring.
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