This is 'merica. You can be as fat and stupid as you desire. Don't let them check that receipt! Stick to your guns! In the end we will all be paying more for our 72 cans of hamburger helper, and proud of it, because we have the liberty to do so!
there are five states where it’s illegal and not showing your receipt is probable cause for shoplifting. california, florida, illinois, new york and washington. in those states you can be accused of shoplifting if a employee witnessing you taking and concealing an item and then not paying for it at check out, or by video, that takes a lot longer to look up before customer exits the store. the store being private property has nothing to do with it. so the store needs to prove it and if successful the person is charged with a misdemeanor, which is nothing to them.
We spend a fair amount of time in France, where there are now 2 Costco stores in the Paris metropolitan area. It turns out that an American Costco card is valid to use in the French stores. What is pertinent to this thread is the fact that the Costco employee at the exit scans your Costco card rather than lookiing at the register receipt and checking the items in your cart.
"We do this to double-check that the items purchased have been correctly processed by our cashiers. It’s our most effective method of maintaining accuracy in inventory control, and it’s also a good way to ensure that our members have been charged properly for their purchases."
You believe that nonsense? How many times have you seen the receipt-checker do anything to verify that the prices are correct, that all 11 oranges are on the receipt, that the medium size toolbox wasn't rung up as a small? That elderly person is in no position to be doing QA on checker accuracy.
Shoppers can and do check for themselves if they've been overcharged. If the store thinks they may have been undercharged, they should hire better checkers.
A "psyop" is any elaborate psychological trick. Not admitting they aren't trying to make it look hard to steal from them, doesn't mean they really aren't. That lie is part of the trick.
Better box stores just have sensors, and tags that get deactivated during checkout. Much more sensible.
"We do this to double-check that the items purchased have been correctly processed by our cashiers. It’s our most effective method of maintaining accuracy in inventory control, and it’s also a good way to ensure that our members have been charged properly for their purchases."
You believe that nonsense? How many times have you seen the receipt-checker do anything to verify that the prices are correct, that all 11 oranges are on the receipt, that the medium size toolbox wasn't rung up as a small? That elderly person is in no position to be doing QA on checker accuracy.
Shoppers can and do check for themselves if they've been overcharged. If the store thinks they may have been undercharged, they should hire better checkers.
A "psyop" is any elaborate psychological trick. Not admitting they aren't trying to make it look hard to steal from them, doesn't mean they really aren't. That lie is part of the trick.
Better box stores just have sensors, and tags that get deactivated during checkout. Much more sensible.
The receipt checker doesn't need to verify if the prices are correct. They have to make sure that the three milks I purchased weren't rung up at four milks. It's a numbers game and it's easy to visually verify that I have the same amount of items in my cart as I do in the receipt. If I have more or less, then that's something that should be figured out at the store and not after the fact, which wastes more time than a 10 second check.
Btw, your definition of a psyop is wrong. It's not "any elaborate check" but rather actions by a state actor to influence enemies or allies. See the CIA for examples. I wouldn't say the receipt checkers are an elaborate trick anyways, you must not be the brightest if you consider something like that to be elaborate.
Do you really expect grocery stores to tag all their food items? Do you understand how ridiculous that would be? Most grocery stores don't even have exit scanners. And if they do, and you set it off accidentally, are you going to throw a tantrum when they attempt to "claim your property" when checking your items? Cmon man, you can't be this dumb.
Probably not. You know how movie theaters say that you can't bring outside food into the movie?
They have no legal right to do that.
What a f"ing dolt!
Any Private business can refuse service for any reason. Try to enter with your 32 ounce Big Gulp and they can tell you to kick rocks, they don't even have to give you a reason. Your cousin Vinny is clueless as are you.
A private business cannot refuse service for "any reason". If you are a member of a protected class (think race here) you cannot be denied service based on that. Now they can based on your actions or behaviors.
Equating it to taking your own property out of a store is just as insane a comparison. The fake lawyer has too many of you fooled. Private or not, no organization can lay a claim to your property if you try to exit its premises without a receipt.
Whether or not you agree to a "receipt check" in a contract, there are no legal grounds to dispute your ownership of the items in your possession. You may have, for example, walked in with them. In order to claim the property, the store has to have witnesses that you
a) picked up the item from inside the store b) failed to pay for it c) attempted to leave with it in your possession
Checking a receipt is a psyop, intended to deter people who think it could actually mean something. What it really means is they don't have the loss-prevention personnel to witness everything needed for a shoplifting charge. Stores that do have this in place don't need to punish everyone with "receipt checks," they just grab anyone they catch and charge them. So, receipt or not, it all boils down to will the store kick you out for not playing along. Any store that would is not worth going to in the first place.
More strawman and still the inability to read. Costco will not "lay a claim" to your property if you don't want to show your receipt, they will very calmy let you walk out and they will very calmy cancel your membership. Everything you are saying is completely irrelevant and a bunch of pseudo-legal mumbo-jumbo from an idiot suffering from delusions of grandeur. You have no idea what you are talking about.
They can check your receipt, it's in your contract... deal with it. Don't shop there, no one cares.
I think they can cancel my membership, but if I don't show them anything how are they going to know who I am?
Are they going to pull security footage so see what register I went through and then look at the sales time stamps and then do it? Seems like a lot of work.
That said, if I am a member of Costco I agreed to the terms and should honor them on their end just as I would expect them to honor on my end.
there are five states where it’s illegal and not showing your receipt is probable cause for shoplifting. california, florida, illinois, new york and washington.
Consider it an accuracy check: It helps ensure you're charged correctly. Sometimes cashiers accidentally miss an item or scan something twice. A quick check can identify these errors before you leave the store.
No you don't have to stop. What if you don't stop? Security personnel need to be very thoughtful before they place their hands on someone.
This has been tested by off-duty law enforcement, Walmart.
You paid for it. Feel free to walk out the door. I have tested this at Walmart. I usually stop and allow store personnel to check my stuff. Sometimes, I don't have time and I have said I don't have time for this nonsense. No one arrested me. No one tackled me.
I love the excuse “don’t have time”. It’s the least legitimate excuse out there. Like the 10 seconds you lose from them checking your stuff is going to have a catastrophic impact on your day. Really.
No you don't have to stop. What if you don't stop? Security personnel need to be very thoughtful before they place their hands on someone.
This has been tested by off-duty law enforcement, Walmart.
You paid for it. Feel free to walk out the door. I have tested this at Walmart. I usually stop and allow store personnel to check my stuff. Sometimes, I don't have time and I have said I don't have time for this nonsense. No one arrested me. No one tackled me.
I love the excuse “don’t have time”. It’s the least legitimate excuse out there. Like the 10 seconds you lose from them checking your stuff is going to have a catastrophic impact on your day. Really.
The point is whether or not you are obligated to prove to the store that you are not a criminal before being allowed to leave with the stuff that you paid for.
I love the excuse “don’t have time”. It’s the least legitimate excuse out there. Like the 10 seconds you lose from them checking your stuff is going to have a catastrophic impact on your day. Really.
The point is whether or not you are obligated to prove to the store that you are not a criminal before being allowed to leave with the stuff that you paid for.
Stores lose millions of dollars per year in theft. You should just show some compassion to the store owners and let them check regardless of whether you are obligated or not.
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