Friday "Showers likely, with thunderstorms also possible after 11am. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 56. South southwest wind 5 to 15 mph, with gusts as high as 20 mph. Chance of precipitation is 70%. New rainfall amounts between a tenth and quarter of an inch, except higher amounts possible in thunderstorms."
How does meet director handles this? Saturday weather is predicted to be perfect though.
Lightning is a whole other level of problem. Getting wet is one thing. Getting dead is much worse.
But Arcadia's schedule is so packed both Friday and Saturday that if the meet is stopped for a while on Friday because of potential lighting, it's going to be difficult to squeeze in all the events. Maybe they move up the Friday start of the meet a few hours?
Any updates on how they are going to proceed with the friday races?
Lightning is a whole other level of problem. Getting wet is one thing. Getting dead is much worse.
But Arcadia's schedule is so packed both Friday and Saturday that if the meet is stopped for a while on Friday because of potential lighting, it's going to be difficult to squeeze in all the events. Maybe they move up the Friday start of the meet a few hours?
Any updates on how they are going to proceed with the friday races?
I’m going out on a limb and I will say they will proceed with them one at a time and on schedule.
Unless conditions become dangerous, they will continue to run the event. The factors that could change things are:
Rain - to much water on the track causing a tripping hazard
Wind - crap being blown onto the track/stands etc...
Lightning - immediate halt to proceedings
It's not unprecedented to see changes in advance based on weather forecast. But there are a huge number of factors that influence this. Local laws regulations with regard to how late events can run (lights etc...) . School rules/policy about when the public can be on campus.
The schedule certainly allows for an earlier start on Friday - but we are getting close to the point of no return where it is to late to make a time change.
Griffith vs Simmons vs Jourdan, with Koon, Pajak, Todd, Neil, and more to pick up the pieces. Gonna be a barn-burner of a race, would love to see some sub-8:30 times. Need it to go out under 4:20 for that to happen, hopefully someone is feeling brave and runs some 64s out front.
Griffith vs Simmons vs Jourdan, with Koon, Pajak, Todd, Neil, and more to pick up the pieces. Gonna be a barn-burner of a race, would love to see some sub-8:30 times. Need it to go out under 4:20 for that to happen, hopefully someone is feeling brave and runs some 64s out front.
Maybe fast horse can ask Andreas Dybdahl(800 meter race) to take it out a few laps. (Similar to the 2023 race)
I don't know if Rich Gonzalez will approve of that though. He got in hot water by the letsrun community for that (2023)
Couple of insights..and I do believe both NFHS 3200m records could fall Saturday evening. From a quick glance, these are the best fields put together in history or close to it. The depth in these races are awesome! Let's hope the weather holds up. Remember when breaking 10 was this huge barrier for girls. Last year 9 did it in one race. 42 boys broke 9 and then you start sprinkling in the 9:01s, 9:02s, etc. I remember when 16 broke it in one race and it was this HUGE deal. This number could be blown away Saturday night so let's hope the weather holds up. So many inside stories with all of these great runners, but here's a couple I know of. I would love to hear others so post'em up.
-Jaelyn Williams whom was 7th at NXN has run only a couple of invites since last December. She has dropped 8s on her 3200m PR this year and in a dual meet. Last week she dropped 5s on her 800m PR by 5s in a dual meet. She is the faster one on her team...boy or girl so that should tell you about the seriousness of her school's track program. A bad race for her now is a 10:20. She could be in a for a big improvement. I believe she is doubling and I sure hope not. I wanna see what she can do in this 3200m race.
-Ryan Pajak. He owns multiple victories over Drew Griffith. Not sure why he did not do as serious of an indoor season. Not all Western PA schools have indoor programs so perhaps that's it. Anyone know if he was injured over the winter? Taking time off? Anyway, if he is back in the swing of things, I have a very difficult time seeing him :13s behind Drew Griffith and he perhaps could beat him.
Couple of insights..and I do believe both NFHS 3200m records could fall Saturday evening.
It depends on whether the top guys are racing for place or for time. If they are running for time, the NFHS record of 8:34 is in a realistic range for a handful of guys in this field. Arcadia used to be a positive split race until runners like Cole Sprout, Cooper Teare, Youngs, and Salhmans started taking the lead from the start. Sean Brosnan would tell his Newbury Park guys, 'Don't expect anyone else to take you through a fast time'
Unless conditions become dangerous, they will continue to run the event. The factors that could change things are:
Rain - to much water on the track causing a tripping hazard
Wind - crap being blown onto the track/stands etc...
Lightning - immediate halt to proceedings
It's not unprecedented to see changes in advance based on weather forecast. But there are a huge number of factors that influence this. Local laws regulations with regard to how late events can run (lights etc...) . School rules/policy about when the public can be on campus.
The schedule certainly allows for an earlier start on Friday - but we are getting close to the point of no return where it is to late to make a time change.
Rain - too much water on the track causing a tripping hazard? What??
Couple of insights..and I do believe both NFHS 3200m records could fall Saturday evening.
It depends on whether the top guys are racing for place or for time. If they are running for time, the NFHS record of 8:34 is in a realistic range for a handful of guys in this field. Arcadia used to be a positive split race until runners like Cole Sprout, Cooper Teare, Youngs, and Salhmans started taking the lead from the start. Sean Brosnan would tell his Newbury Park guys, 'Don't expect anyone else to take you through a fast time'
negative split race The winner used to go 4:30 - 4:13
Couple of insights..and I do believe both NFHS 3200m records could fall Saturday evening. From a quick glance, these are the best fields put together in history or close to it. The depth in these races are awesome! Let's hope the weather holds up. Remember when breaking 10 was this huge barrier for girls. Last year 9 did it in one race. 42 boys broke 9 and then you start sprinkling in the 9:01s, 9:02s, etc. I remember when 16 broke it in one race and it was this HUGE deal. This number could be blown away Saturday night so let's hope the weather holds up. So many inside stories with all of these great runners, but here's a couple I know of. I would love to hear others so post'em up.
-Jaelyn Williams whom was 7th at NXN has run only a couple of invites since last December. She has dropped 8s on her 3200m PR this year and in a dual meet. Last week she dropped 5s on her 800m PR by 5s in a dual meet. She is the faster one on her team...boy or girl so that should tell you about the seriousness of her school's track program. A bad race for her now is a 10:20. She could be in a for a big improvement. I believe she is doubling and I sure hope not. I wanna see what she can do in this 3200m race.
-Ryan Pajak. He owns multiple victories over Drew Griffith. Not sure why he did not do as serious of an indoor season. Not all Western PA schools have indoor programs so perhaps that's it. Anyone know if he was injured over the winter? Taking time off? Anyway, if he is back in the swing of things, I have a very difficult time seeing him :13s behind Drew Griffith and he perhaps could beat him.
Also think the Mile record could get challenged. Bunch of ~4:40 runners to challenge Engelhardt who is only 1 second off the record 4:33.87 with her own pr. Her 1500m run with the pros a few weeks ago technically converts to a time faster than the record as well
Couple of insights..and I do believe both NFHS 3200m records could fall Saturday evening.
It depends on whether the top guys are racing for place or for time. If they are running for time, the NFHS record of 8:34 is in a realistic range for a handful of guys in this field. Arcadia used to be a positive split race until runners like Cole Sprout, Cooper Teare, Youngs, and Salhmans started taking the lead from the start. Sean Brosnan would tell his Newbury Park guys, 'Don't expect anyone else to take you through a fast time'
I can tell I've been going to Arcadia for many more years than you and I can only think of possibly one race where one could argue it was for the win and that was AJ Acosta's senior year. Get that thought out of your head now as you go to Arcadia to run fast. Many of these athletes will not get better race conditions all season.
Couple of insights..and I do believe both NFHS 3200m records could fall Saturday evening. From a quick glance, these are the best fields put together in history or close to it. The depth in these races are awesome! Let's hope the weather holds up. Remember when breaking 10 was this huge barrier for girls. Last year 9 did it in one race. 42 boys broke 9 and then you start sprinkling in the 9:01s, 9:02s, etc. I remember when 16 broke it in one race and it was this HUGE deal. This number could be blown away Saturday night so let's hope the weather holds up. So many inside stories with all of these great runners, but here's a couple I know of. I would love to hear others so post'em up.
-Jaelyn Williams whom was 7th at NXN has run only a couple of invites since last December. She has dropped 8s on her 3200m PR this year and in a dual meet. Last week she dropped 5s on her 800m PR by 5s in a dual meet. She is the faster one on her team...boy or girl so that should tell you about the seriousness of her school's track program. A bad race for her now is a 10:20. She could be in a for a big improvement. I believe she is doubling and I sure hope not. I wanna see what she can do in this 3200m race.
-Ryan Pajak. He owns multiple victories over Drew Griffith. Not sure why he did not do as serious of an indoor season. Not all Western PA schools have indoor programs so perhaps that's it. Anyone know if he was injured over the winter? Taking time off? Anyway, if he is back in the swing of things, I have a very difficult time seeing him :13s behind Drew Griffith and he perhaps could beat him.
Also think the Mile record could get challenged. Bunch of ~4:40 runners to challenge Engelhardt who is only 1 second off the record 4:33.87 with her own pr. Her 1500m run with the pros a few weeks ago technically converts to a time faster than the record as well
You could be right. Sadie in the 4 X 800 on Friday if they still run it due to the weather on Friday. They could go well under 9.
Montana State has 3 commits in the rated 3200m section. It would be quite the win for them if they are bringing in 3 sub-9 guys in one class.
And Notre Dame has Griffith (8:31c), Ryan Pajak (8:44), and Jason Parra who could join that group on Saturday night. This is gonna be a GREAT race. Good luck to all!
Unless conditions become dangerous, they will continue to run the event. The factors that could change things are:
Rain - to much water on the track causing a tripping hazard
Wind - crap being blown onto the track/stands etc...
Lightning - immediate halt to proceedings
It's not unprecedented to see changes in advance based on weather forecast. But there are a huge number of factors that influence this. Local laws regulations with regard to how late events can run (lights etc...) . School rules/policy about when the public can be on campus.
The schedule certainly allows for an earlier start on Friday - but we are getting close to the point of no return where it is to late to make a time change.
Rain - too much water on the track causing a tripping hazard? What??
Must be a wimpy californian.
Yep :-D
I've seen it happen. You may or may not like it, but some tracks have water pool in specific large areas, and they put a halt to the meet while they clear it off. Not my decision mate, it's up to the meet director. And it is a possibility for a delay
Montana State has 3 commits in the rated 3200m section. It would be quite the win for them if they are bringing in 3 sub-9 guys in one class.
And Notre Dame has Griffith (8:31c), Ryan Pajak (8:44), and Jason Parra who could join that group on Saturday night. This is gonna be a GREAT race. Good luck to all!
Don't forget about Cameron Todd who took 2nd at NXN. He is also in the invitational and is a ND commit. Jason solo a 8:50 mid March and has a PR of 8:46 so he could likely dip under 8:40.
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