Props to Kerr. He looks great. Nuguse got outraced.
If anything that close gets me more excited about Nuguse medal potential outdoors. Heck of a close. Came up short, but better tactics won't earn you that much space on a 400m track.
Agree with all of this. If Ritz gets his taper right, silver will be a massive disappointment in Paris.
Kerr won extremely easily, in the way a strong man easily defeats weaklings. Nobody else had a chance.
It's always good to see someone relatively big and strong defeat the distance runts like this. Barega should have gone at sub 7:30 pace, that was his only chance.
7:42+ is not worthy of a championship though. Snore. Nobody cares, not even you, admit it. You may say you care but no, not really. What, you say you really care about it? Well go out on the street then and try to interest a stranger in this result. Anything you really care about, you'd explain to a stranger.
Incorrect here, Josh was the far better runner, he closed faster than Nuguse and could have closed faster given how deceptively relaxed and efficient he sprints a 52 second final 400m. Heck he looks like he can summon a 51 second which Nuguse would never match with his terrible arm swing???
Josh has beautiful arm swing more like Hicham El G, the arms pump and push back and forth like a smooth pendulum in space-time but Nuguse' has wrong biomechanics. That he sprints 53 seconds flat for the final 400m is in itself gross with such poor running technique.
Correct here, Josh was never gonna lose to anybody in a sit and kick race. He had a 51 second final 400m in him and a 24.7 final 200m IF NEEDED!!!!!!!!! Look at how relaxed and effortlessly he just strode past Barega in the final 100m? He basically opened up a 10-15 meter gap in the final 100m and was probably shutting it down in the last 5 meters since he was so far ahead.
JAKOB AND NUGUSE COULD NEVER BEAT THAT OKAY???
It is Josh Kerr, Nuguse, and Hobbs Kessler in that order after the 1500m final in Paris later this year!!!!!
Josh Kerr has the gold sewn up, he is just unbelievably good right now.
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No sorry, Nuguse CANNOT MAKE IT BIG EVER!!! He has trouble changing pace in an instant with that girly half-baked arm swing of his!!! Look at Josh Kerr's arm swing, at any moment in space and time, if he wants to move big time, he just needs to pump his arms harder and his stride opens up and eats up ground. But Nuguse could never pump his arms in a way that generates enough space and time (ala momentum) to ever be a factor in sit and kick races, hence could also never open up his stride and eat up ground in the same way.
Do you guys understand the laws of Physics or what???
Nuguse, the American, cannot cannot cannot cannot make it at the top levels. Silver in such a absent field is a sore failure. He had to beat Josh Kerr or nothing but he couldn't because his mechanics are awful in space-time!!!
Physics will always win, mark my words. I'm never wrong in my predictions. Nuguse is not suited for top level distance running.
well it is indoors. and a springboard to the real deal.
some or most guys are using it as glorified training.
none the less world indoors has some street cred.
nuguse ran the 3000 as prep.
as did everyone else.
pretty neat to get a world silver. running perhaps suboptimal.
this is an excellent result.
anyone in dispute lives in a basement. of their parents. where the parents ask? where did we go wrong?
When Nuguse narrowly beat Mills 3 weeks ago after Mills was almost.knocked off the track, I was 'making excuses for him'.
Now Nuguse is the new Cole Hocker and if he only was on Kerr's shoulder at the bell, for sure he would have won as nobody can live with his kick.
The disrespect shown to Kerr 2 weeks after he won the WC and Jakob pulled Nuguse to a 3:43 was unreal. If you look back on that thread and the consensus was that if Kerr had been in the race he would have ran 3:45 or 3:46, well behind Nuguse.
Excuse me, are you serious??? If you are right, but I'm also right to say that there are a ton of athletes with Nuguse' improvement rate and talent who also immediately right now will falter away into oblivion forever and ever and ever!!!! They will never come back and even if they did, it was half as good as before, or, PED-assisted etc.
In the world of high-performance distance running, anything and everything goes!!! You have all sorts of odd-shaped trajectories and improvement curves.
Instead, we should focus on the present moment, on Nuguse terrifying arm swing that the laws of Physics are terrified about because it is something 'observable' (to quote rekrunner), hence objective (to quote rekrunner) and I choose to base my observations following rekrunner's model of objective reality and say that this is highly unlikely to result in a sustainable high-performance distance career.
Nah, my dearest Coevett, I like to think Josh Kerr would be in the mix with Jakob and Nuguse if needed at Eugene last year. Josh has such beautiful biomechanics, so deceptively powerful, stride so large and huge, competitors don't even know if he is accelerating or running a constant speed because when he starts to surge they didn't know he had surged because his running rhythm is just so ingenious and hard to pin down!!!
Heck you know what? I say Josh Kerr would have run 3:42 IF NEEDED at Eugene last year, assuming he was healthy which I think he wasn't according to him.
Exactly, I feel that LRC folks should fall in love with Josh Kerr more and more over Jakob and especially Nuguse with that objectionable and detestable arm swing of his!!!
I mean I understand Josh is Scottish, but Scottish people are some of the nicest and funniest people on earth, I absolutely love Scotland apart from China. Josh also speaks very good English Language unlike Jakob whose English I can't really understand and whose English accent sounds terrible. When Josh opens his mouth, I'm all ears and there is some uninterrupted telepathic communication between my ear and his mouth, but with Jakob it's pretty rough on my ears!!!
Josh is also very highly masculine. His mannerisms, behavior and body language exudes that big male magnanimity and makes me fall in love with him, both as a man and if I were a single lady!!! Whereas for Nuguse, he exudes that effeminate mannerism and smile about him which I absolutely can't resonate with, topped it off with that equally effeminate and half-baked arm swing of his is the reason why I find him way too feminine for my liking!!!
Even Jakob is more masculine in his behavior and mannerism than Nuguse and has much better masculine arm swing than him!!
Nuguse is going to become very dangerous when the full realization that he is the 4th faster miler of all time (and, other than JI, nobody currently running is within 2 seconds of him) hits him. He shouldn't be hanging off the front pack hoping for a chance to win or for a medal, he should be dominating.
Now, of course, perhaps Kerr pops sub 3:45 or sub 3:28 and shows that he's actually that talented (I think he really is and the 2 mile WR is great evidence). But right now he looks like he is just a superior tactician and racer and is cleaning up on guys who are a bit more talented than him.
When you look back in history at who is in Nuguse's category by times, these are all time legends. Nobody runs that fast without being a shoe-in medalist and WR setter.
I think Kerr is going to end up in this category with Ingebrigtsen, and that Nuguse is already there. Nuguse just needs to understand in his mind that he's an all time great and not just a current medal hopeful, and then race like it. Kerr will probably cement himself into this club by the time this season is over, he's already racing like it. It will be interesting to see if Hocker can make another step forward and join them.
Impossible, no way on earth!!!
American men like Hocker and Nuguse are not the distance legends we saw in Hicham El G, Noah Ngeny, Daniel Komen, Haile Geb, Noreddine Morceli and why???
I don't only look at time performances, I look at BIOMECHANICS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hocker and Nuguse run like little midgets with that weird-ass, effeminate pigmy-like or otherwise arm swing. It's not classy, it's not elegant, it's not super-conducting, it's not effortless and resistance-less to the objective eye and senses. Look how smooth Noah Ngeny and Hicham El G carries their legs and arms, ON LOUSY SHOES AND BAD TRACK SURFACES NO LESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So it's not just the end result but the manner in which the result was achieved and realized, and the manner in which a runner runs such as his biomechanics is just as important if not more so than the results!!! The laws of Physics must approve of a runner's biomechanics!!
Yes I can accept that! But there is one small problem. Josh Kerr's close in Tokyo was realized using very beautiful arm swing and biomechanics in general, but Nuguse' close was very unsightly.
4 months is a very very short time, time flies so damn fast. Jakob is not healing from his Achilles scar tissue, if ever at all, and is also not training and preparing in the same manner before his previous Olympic and World Championships campaigns from 2021-2023.
At this cut-throat level of the 1500m, you are simply not going to be a factor in an Olympic or world final much less be a factor against the very recent WR holder and ascendant champion Josh Kerr!!!
That's why I said it 8 weeks ago in January that it's over for Jakob. It's all Josh Kerr's now!!!
I don't wait for Jakob's failure to become objective reality on August 6th 2024, instead I have subjective prescience about his failure long before that day ever arrive. I do and think things AHEAD OF TIME AND SPACE, not wait for time and space to occur before doing and thinking about things!!!
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Josh Kerr was looking a tad too relaxed running 25.19 for the last 200m. It should be around 24.5 if it was a lion on his back!!!! But seriously, Josh seems too deceptively powerful and easy in his biomechanics that I'm confused about his ceiling. He seems capable of a WR in the 1500m/mile right now, but also kick extremely well.
Josh Kerr was looking a tad too relaxed running 25.19 for the last 200m. It should be around 24.5 if it was a lion on his back!!!! But seriously, Josh seems too deceptively powerful and easy in his biomechanics that I'm confused about his ceiling. He seems capable of a WR in the 1500m/mile right now, but also kick extremely well.
Pure butthurtness from Jakob fanboys. Kerr is on another level right now and is walking the talk. He gets to extend his trash talking while Jakob, having stayed home, gets to be even more nervous and less in control of the situation. I can see Josh sniping a WR just before the Olympics this summer and Jakob is not going to be able to handle him. I mean seriously, how does anyone see Jakob as favorite in the 1500?
As a Jakob fan boy I will say this: Of course Kerr is very good, and far better than he has been before..! And of course Jakob isn’t the favourite in the 1500m -first he has to come back from his injuries. But exciting this year certainly will be!
