Gym teacher is the biggest joke of a job ever

Nah. DEI administrator @ any college 1000 times more worthless.

I think the real problem with PE teachers is that they aren't held to the same academic standards that other subjects are. Math they have to learn a certain amount of things in the 6th grade, PE they don't. In many places they have the "mile" test or the Pacer test but do these have an effect on grades?

It's really not about the teachers as much as it is about the districts not having strong requirements on what PE teachers have to teach. Many of the burnt teachers just roll out a ball and let them play. Play isn't Physical Education. They should be learning about the body, muscles, bones, learn what it takes to be in shape and take care of yourself. Running isn't even education. They should have real tests and requirements.

I agree with this. However 6th graders have math everyday, some 6th graders might have PE twice a week. It's hard to improve fitness in that time. We gave out quizzes, had kids take their pulse after exercise and had fitness standards. From my experience very few principals will hold a kid back from graduation because they didn't take PE seriously. Kids know this.

I wasn't saying improve fitness. I was saying learn something. Yes and having limited PE is one of the problems.

They combined Health and PE in our district to try and tie to the two together. PE used to just be doing different sports every six weeks, now its a combination of health class and gym time.

Track wasn’t big when I was there. The battery park location is much better for running.

Why dump on the person that gave me easy A's every semester.

It is setting up conditioning programs and gradually progressing to reach a higher standard of fitness in most cases over a 4 year program with short term and long term goals a long the Way, A Teacher who runs a Program Like Stan Perotti is NOT a joke, and it achieves significant results including increasing Students Confidence , Self Esteem, Health etc.

A Good Gym Teacher is ABSOLUTELY of Value, Taking kids who can not do any Pullups and getting them to do 30-40 or more Consectively is of Value, Taking a Kid who is fat and breathes heavy going up a flight of stairs and getting the kid to under 6 minutes in a Mile has Value and doing this in all Physical Test's has Value and Gym Teachers that accomplish that with kids (Mostly non Athletes) is of value.

I think kids should have to meet standards for grades based on grade and age Example for a 12 grader

Pullups under 10 = F

10-19 = C

20-29 = B

30 or More = A

Mile Run 7 Minutes or over = F

6 Minutes -6:59 = D

5.30-5.59 = C

5.00-5:29 = B

4:59 or Better = A

Pushups under 30 = F

30-39 = D

40-49 =C

50- 74 = B

Over 75 = A

Note Control Weight Both Ways, Good Form and Must Be Consecutive.

Maybe have 15-20 kind of Tests for Strength, Speed, Endurance, Muscular Endurance, Agility anf Flexibility.

Likely Most Kids will start the Program in the F Category, But Keep them motivated with shorter Term Goals, Most kids will not think it will be possible to do this, but with Gradual Progression over a 4 year Period with a Motivated Kid with a Good Work Ethic, It will be not only possible but probable to Get A's in these Tests and like everything Different Students will be stronger or Weaker in some tests than others.

Doing something like This is What A PE Class should be, No standing around and doing nothing, It Will be hard ,They will sweat puddles during the Classes, the Students would be working their A__ Off, Most will not like it, but they will love the Results. And The Gym Teacher will be EARNING his pay

The East River Park was fine. It was probably the coaching.

In reality it is just like being a business-person, cop, lawyer, or whatever. Some people do the job well and have high standards and some just do the bare minimum. It is weird that people love to hate on teachers, doctors, lawyers, service-sector workers, politicians, scientists, capitalists, etc. It is a "humanity" problem, not a teaching problem.

Every field has like 10% of their group that is just skating by and doing as little as possible. P.E. is not more or less than in other professions.

Plus if you think it is an overpaid, cushy job why didn't you become a P.E. teacher?

No one's holding a kid back because he can't do 10 pullups and run a 7 minute mile. You can fail him in a fitness unit but not for the term.

One more comment about why P.E. doesn't always use a harsher "grading scale" like other classes and just gives participation grades:

It has been established that if people are directly confronted with their own weaknesses, about 80% of them will just avoid those areas. 20% will use that information to improve but over 3/4 of people will just "give up" on whatever it is.

This happens in all subject areas and aspects of life. We don't tend to spend hours a day doing things that we are bad at.

So confronting kids with the harsh facts about their lack of fitness tends to have them say, "screw this." If you can't see your own feet due to childhood obesity, does it help to have people tell you that you are overweight? 80% of the time it does not help. Most people just give up hope.

In academic subjects they have stricter standards because if you have no aptitude for calculus, you just move on to something else that you are better at. But we can't move on from our own bodies, so P.E. teachers have to keep kids hopeful and motivated even when the facts point to a hopeless future (physically speaking).

The Goal will be get the kids in good enough condition that It will be taken for granted by the time of the tests all the Kids will expect to hit The A Standard and doing better than the other Standards would be taken for granted.

The Performances are just Examples, but you always want a Standard that can be done with hard work and consistency which means 3-4 times a week, Strength Work might be 2 or 3 at most, endurance would be 4-5 and of course the kids can do more on their own, you never want a goal that is too soft.