From what I hear Leachman does a lot of cross training. Just like with Valby, mileage is not the only thing. Whether it is too little, just right, or too much I will leave to others to judge. But like with Valby, it seems to be working.
News flash, in high school, in addition to her mileage, Tuohy cross trained, as well.
“Champions are everywhere.” ~Arthur Lydiard
well yes, but there is cross training (ie weights and a little swimming) and then there is cross training (ie 3-4 days per week on an Arc Trainer or something)
Show some respect to Leachman. The thread title omits her name. Yes, Tuohy was a phenom, but Leachman broke her record. Say the name Elizabeth Leachman.
News flash, in high school, in addition to her mileage, Tuohy cross trained, as well.
“Champions are everywhere.” ~Arthur Lydiard
well yes, but there is cross training (ie weights and a little swimming) and then there is cross training (ie 3-4 days per week on an Arc Trainer or something)
You'd be surprised. Everyone thinks Tuohy ran a lot of high school mileage, because of one quote about a 10mile run.
It wasn't high mileage, but her cross training with swimming, weights, cycling, body weight exercise was at least an hour a day. Being a complete athlete was her secret, not high mileage.
Show some respect to Leachman. The thread title omits her name. Yes, Tuohy was a phenom, but Leachman broke her record. Say the name Elizabeth Leachman.
This--the thread still doesn't have her name.
What's wrong with you all?
I agree Leachman's name belongs in the title (and Tuohy's does not). I actually read the wording of the title as sort of a celebration that another Tuohy record was broken. But maybe I am wrong there.
This was supposed to be a training run for Millrose. Her coaches said she was smiling and having a good time. She ran a 2:13 for her first 800 since junior high school, 20-30 minutes after finishing the 3200.
Do you know what her splits were in the 3200? I can't find the meet or the actual race results.
her first mile was 4:50 followed by a 4:55.... she is a wonderful kid, by the way.
Does anyone know if there's a race video anywhere? YouTube and Google are failing me
Her high school account posted some pics and short videos of the meet but none were of the 3200 🤷♂️. You figure a parent or someone would pull out their phone when it was clear something special was happening. Lots of footage of the pole vault though...
If a marathon record is broken and they remeasure and discover the course was 10 meters long, the record will count. A longer distance should always count straight up for a shorter distance.
Nope! That means they are separate events. If you don't like it take it up with usatf! We'll just have 2 records now, 1 for the marathon and one for the marathon + 10 meters. Both are very distinctively different categories.
Does anyone know if there's a race video anywhere? YouTube and Google are failing me
This was a very small insignificant meet. No company was at the meet to record videos or stream the meet.
And the parents/coaches of Leachman didn't think she was going to run fast, since it was just a workout, so they didn't bother to record the race either.
Maybe a random fan just happened to record Leachman's race. But so far, no race footage seems to have been posted anywhere.
If a marathon record is broken and they remeasure and discover the course was 10 meters long, the record will count. A longer distance should always count straight up for a shorter distance.
Nope! That means they are separate events. If you don't like it take it up with usatf! We'll just have 2 records now, 1 for the marathon and one for the marathon + 10 meters. Both are very distinctively different categories.
This is false. T&FN absolutely will consider a finish-line time for a longer race as a valid mark for records or all-time lists, if an official en route time at the relevant distance was not recorded (e.g.., mile & 1600m), as do FAST and ATFS. They also keep lists/rankings of converted times in equivalent events (e.g. 1500/1600/mile), but they would not consider a converted time a "record" if it was from a shorter event, or if a time was faster than the record at the distance of interest only after converting from the longer distance, even if it ranks higher on the combined list than the existing record. So you could move to the top of the 3000/3200/2-mile list with a converted time from any of the events (though some won't include 3k's on the same list), but you can only set a "record" for a given distance by having (1) an official time recorded (2) at a distance at least as long as the distance you want to set the record for (3) that is faster than the previous record for that distance.
USATF and WA have no place in this discussion as they don't maintain records for high schools. And also would not be relevant because neither considers the 1600 or 3200 an official event. Decades ago when the 220y, 440y, and 880y were still regularly run in the US (and sometimes other English-speaking countries), world records in the equivalent (but slightly shorter) metric distances were occasionally set with times from races run in yards. The record would be the actual time recorded at the finish line (unless someone set up official timers 4 yards before the finish line in a half mile), but all-time lists for the event might have converted times.
The NFHS, which ratifies official HS records and only considers marks from sanctioned HS competition, does in fact only consider metric times. For 40 years they said the high school 1600 record was over 4:00, despite the fact that Jim Ryun ran 3:59 for a full mile in the 1965 Kansas state meet. Everyone actually interested in track statistics, as opposed to high school sports administration, rightly thought this was incredibly stupid. I would hope people on this board think of themselves as part of the "track" rather than "HS administration" camp.
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