"Young people are having less sex"

Disgustingtake wrote:

hmmguyno wrote:

No. Somewhat, but not all.

I'll blame the pill first and foremost for eliminating the possibility of having a baby from sex -- making women more willing to have sex with guys they wouldn't want to marry.

Next, I'll blame legal abortion, which made sex even less significant because even if a woman did get pregnant, she still didn't have to have a baby.

Lastly, I'll blame social media/the Internet in general. Normal women won't settle for average men because they only want the best of the best men (rich and/or hot) from what they see online. Men want the same. Average women will have sex with the best guys because guys will have sex with anything that lets them. Average men, however, get screwed over.

So by that logic, you are against birth control and abortion because you want to control women and think it's preventing men from getting "sex" that they are entitled to? Did I get this correct? That's disgusting. Also, many women do not want to date men right now because they do not want to be forced into a role where they are pressured to cook, clean and take care of that man like she is his Mother, without the added benefit of emotional maturity from that man, and being treated like an equal rather than just someone there who is supposed to give them sex whenever they feel like it in return for "protection". Now that we have the means (education, more equal opportunity) to take care of ourselves and aren't forced to marry in order to "not starve" and be homeless, yeah, our standards for men are going to high, and they include, like I said earlier, respect, emotional maturity, sensitivity etc, things that a lot of men these days lack because they have never been taught how to treat women well as fellow human beings, nor have they been pushed to reflect on their own faults and try to improve themselves as a prospective partner in a romantic/emotional relationship. Woman are not all shallow, it's not all about money and looks, and it's good that they are picky. I hope society changes for the better, BECAUSE more men are finding out that women do not want to date them if they are not emotionally mature, caring/compassionate, empathetic people who are willing to share child/house work chores/responsibilities and are forced to do some much needed self-improvement in those arenas.

choccymilklife wrote:

Average LRC poster:

"My ideal woman does all my chores for me like my mommy but is also young enough to be my daughter. She can't be one of these gold-diggers trying to siphon off my money, but she also can't be competent enough at a job to be financially independent of me. In the bedroom she has to be just like the pornstars I watch, but also a sexually inexperienced virgin when we meet. If she ever tries to hang out with her friends or go on a girls' trip she's obviously trying to cheat, but she shouldn't ask questions when I wanna go out with the boys because that's a sign she's just crazy! She has to want to have kids exclusively on my timetable, so that I can have all the fun rewarding parts of parenthood when she's not doing all the kids' cooking, cleaning, and caring. If she meets all of these requirements, then she's ready for the privelege of marriage to me! Assuming, of course, that she never gains a pound, gets a smile line, doesn't wear enough makeup, wears too much makeup, or dresses comfortably in a way I don't deem "sexy but not threateningly confident." If any of those things happen, I'll have to ditch her for the next girl who can't order a beer at the bar yet.

Oh and since this is LRC specifically she has to be willing to listen to me whine about super shoes, rant about vaccines, and explain why some badly-tattooed Norwegian's taint sweat would probably taste like top-shelf champagne."

Mr Beautiful wrote:

FormerStopWatch wrote:

I was a college coach for a bit and while not being too much older (10-15 years) than the athletes, their college experience was VASTLY different than mine. Here are a few things that stood out.

1. They seemed to be “younger” some had never gotten a drivers license, almost all had never worked, very few had ever dated. Their parents had a strong strong influence on their life still, knew their grades class schedules, tracked their locations etc. Granted college is so expensive now it is almost impossible to not rely on parents for finances or a place to live.

2. Socially, screen time was their only outlet. We did a fun experiment, what’s more your miles per week or your hours of screen time. Only a few of the higher mileage upperclassmen out ran their phone usage (most likely with a phone on their wrist mind you).

3. Depression and medication. over 60% of the group was on some sort of behavior modification medication from their childhood and even more were on anti depressants.

I could go on but those are three factors that I saw. When I was in school there were no smart phone, social media was young and when you left for school you had to grow up.

Over medicated, over stimulated, and not allowed to be an adult

I'm 63 married and pretty fit. I constantly meet women who, if not for being married, I could hook up with. Most men do not take care of themselves, plenty of women like that too.

If you are fit and have a decent job you single guys should slay

Shentiviser wrote:

Where I live, the population is in steep decline due to the lack of women having babies.

It's really difficult here for women to get boyfriends, never mind husbands and reliable fathers for their kids. Most of the single guys' idea of dating seems to be exchanging 3 or 4 messages with a woman online, then inviting themselves round to her house for sex.

Unsurprisingly, this has a low success rate. Many of my friends' husbands and boyfriends have cheated and ended relationships. A lot of these men don't even hold down permanent jobs, despite good college educations. When they get older, in their forties and fifties, these men continue to behave like this.

Is it any wonder that women don't want them? A lot of these men then seem to import women from South Asia, because they are less choosey and will sleep with men whom women with more choices in life find repugnant because even a poor white guy here is 40 times richer than a poor man in Thailand, The Phillipines or Malaysia

What is going wrong with men? Is it too much to ask from them that they compete against women in the employment market?

choccymilklife wrote:

Average LRC poster:

"My ideal woman does all my chores for me like my mommy but is also young enough to be my daughter. She can't be one of these gold-diggers trying to siphon off my money, but she also can't be competent enough at a job to be financially independent of me. In the bedroom she has to be just like the pornstars I watch, but also a sexually inexperienced virgin when we meet. If she ever tries to hang out with her friends or go on a girls' trip she's obviously trying to cheat, but she shouldn't ask questions when I wanna go out with the boys because that's a sign she's just crazy! She has to want to have kids exclusively on my timetable, so that I can have all the fun rewarding parts of parenthood when she's not doing all the kids' cooking, cleaning, and caring. If she meets all of these requirements, then she's ready for the privelege of marriage to me! Assuming, of course, that she never gains a pound, gets a smile line, doesn't wear enough makeup, wears too much makeup, or dresses comfortably in a way I don't deem "sexy but not threateningly confident." If any of those things happen, I'll have to ditch her for the next girl who can't order a beer at the bar yet.

jecht wrote:

low t wrote:

young men should be lifting heavy weights, building mass and muscle, and increasing their t levels.

instead, they are hanging out on internet forums such as letsrun, which encourages them to become skinny and lose all muscles, making their bodies indistinguishable from women.

Tucker Carlson had a good article awhile back about how women really don't need men anymore. They are more valued in the workplace, get better salaries, raises, promotions and DEI initiatives help. Men are adrift and colleges aren't helping them like they helped women in the '80s and '90s (girl power movement). So a lot of guys are like F it.

Men can CONTROL this by going back to school and really trying to become more credentialed again. Women won't date guys with HS diplomas. Most women have master's degrees now, and/or are in high levels in white-collar careers.