Rupp 1:02:37 at Houston half

doping cheater

Yep.

any more dumb questions to fail to prove dumb points?

Disclaimers?

Yes disclaimers.

It's like Rupp has to justify a 1:02 high and I don't see why he would have to.

To letsrun? A group of has-beens or never weres???

Your 14 minute 5k in 19 something does not merit your shade on Rupp.

I don’t think he’s a “dark horse” to make the team at all. He ran 2:08:48 three months ago and he’s made so many U.S. teams ranging from 1500i to the marathon since 2007, including two dominant OT marathon wins. He’s like the best “gamer” in U.S. distance history.

Obviously he’s not the athlete he was 10 years ago, but today’s race wasn’t really a bad sign. This should be the point in a marathon buildup when it’s difficult to run a half much faster than your goal marathon pace. He ran the second 5k today at 61-low pace and that was too hot for him at this moment in training, but it’s sort of a good sign that when he was hurting in the later stages he was still trucking along at ~2:08:xx marathon pace, a pace that’s probably deeply ingrained and automatic.

There are exceptions to the rule, but many marathoners (especially of Rupp’s age) become real grinders whose legs are tethered down by their 120+ mpw except for twice a year when they taper and the chains come off. I would not be surprised if 3 weeks from now Rupp is able to click off 15:10 5ks quite comfortably, putting him very much in contention to make the team, or even win his 3rd OT marathon.

Best of luck to him. I get fonder of most of these guys when they reach their upper 30s and have had their share of setbacks.

I think generally there seems to be a very American aversion to letting go of certain athletes; Centro, Rupp, etc. Yes they are not retired, but they aren't what they once were and people seem to overly romanticise some notion that they can still pull it out of the bag somehow.

Hey, I too would love to see him pull up to the OLY start line and run onto the podium, but I dont think the people getting massively downvoted for saying this ship has sailed, are saying anything unrealistic. Beyond Rupp's aging and injury woes, the sport has also moved forward. If he ran 60:30 today, objectively we'd still say he's still a long way back from the best in the world. This was a 62:30+ and in recent years we've seen a more worrying ratio of good/bad performances from him than we'd like, it's ok, that's natural at this age, but as the above poster stated - he's no longer the guy he once was, heck even the people he was competing against are long gone.

London OLY 10,000m Top 15:
Mo Farah - retired
Galen Rupp
Tariku Bekele - last raced 2years ago
Kenenisa Bekele
Bedan Karoki Muchiri - 59:37 last year
Zersenay Tadese - retired
Teklemariam Medhin - last completed a race in 2019
Gebregziabher Gebremariam - retired
Polat Kemboi Arikan - now running 2:17 and 2:12?
Moses Ndiema Kipsiro - retired
Cameron Levins
Moses Ndiema Masai - retired
Dathan Ritzenhein - retired
Robert Kajuga - running 67:5X now (x2)
Nguse Tesfaldet - not broken 2:10 in 3years

I can do the same for the Rio Marathon too, but the point is he medalled last 8years ago, he hasn't been prominent at Worlds either, he's a legend of the sport, but it's almost over, and a 62:37 is equivalent to a 2:11, and he ran quicker than that in horrible conditions in Rio (even though he ran 2:08high recently, it's not exactly progress). Big fan and I'll be happy if I'm wrong, but he's not going to be Top 8 at the Olympics. Down vote me if you wish.

Dude is almost 40 1:02:37 is solid for elite fresh out of college

Can't just tell me? I went there and spent about 5 minutes but only found the one he ran in 59:47

That's a fail, even for a tuneup. Won't make the Olympic team imo.

I ran the Houston half today as well. The slower second half is no surprise. There was a gnarly headwind miles 8 ish through 11 and change. Looking at most top runners they ran notably slower from 15-20k. Heck I was maybe 3/4 of a mile behind Rupp by the time he hit mile 11 and I know I was crouching and fighting some big gusts at around that same time.

Found on wikpedia:

2017: On April 1, 2017, Rupp placed 11th in the Prague Half Marathon, finishing with a time of 1:01:59.[38] On April 17, he finished second in the 2017 Boston Marathon with a time of 2:09:58, which was 21 seconds behind winner, Geoffrey Kirui.

2018: On March 11, 2018, Rupp won the Roma-Ostia Half Marathon with a time of 59:47, becoming the second American to run a half marathon in under 60 minutes. He fell short of Ryan Hall's U.S. record by four seconds.[42]
At the 2018 Boston Marathon, Rupp dropped out of the race near the 20-mile mark, just before Heartbreak Hill.[43]
On May 6, Rupp won the Prague Marathon, setting a new personal best of 2:06:07.[44]
On October 7, Rupp finished fifth at the Chicago Marathon with a time of 2:06:21.

I have not read through all the posts. Conditions were gross the second half of the course. He did well.

It’s not hard to use the World Athletics site man. You click the results tab on Rupp’s profile and you can look at each year in no time.

In 2017 he ran 2 halfs, in 61:59 and 62:18. In 2020 he ran a 61:19 3 weeks before the Trials. In 2021 he ran 61:52 4 weeks before running 2:06:35 in Chicago. In March 2023 he ran a truly rocky 64:57 in NYC.

worldathletics.org

Galen RUPP | Profile | World Athletics

Galen RUPP, United States - 15 Kilometres Road, 10 Kilometres Road

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thats a good time. i cant root against him, even if he was doped up at one point, he was preyed upon as a teenager by a psycho who saw $$$$$$

Initial claim: Probably bears mentioning that buildup half marathon results have not really been predictive for Rupp in the past — ran 1:02ish times twice in 2017 before winning Chicago and getting 2nd in Boston. Similar before he ran 2:06:20 in Chicago a few years later.

He's definitely done this as part of his marathon prep; likely during a 120 mile week.

You people seem to forget who Galen Rupp is. He doesn't care about "optics" (what a douchey word); he simply does the thing that's going to put him in the best position for his goal race.

If putting in a hard half marathon effort in race conditions is going to do that, well then, that's what he'll do. That may look bad on "Socials" (another douchey word), but he doesn't pay any attention to that.

The early pace looks like it stung him a bit today (29:11 through 10k is fast, even on fresh legs), which probably accounts for the fade.

Man that site is so easy to use, and no I don't want to go do your work for you.

As JWH said, he ran 61:59 (16 days before 2nd at Boston) and 62:18 (20ish days before winning Chicago). In 2021, as JWH mentioned, 61:52 then ran 2:06:35 for 2nd in Chicago. Also, in 2021, his tune up race for the Olympic marathon where he got 8th was the US 10K champs...where he also got 8th (29:05).

Before the trials in 2020 that he dominated, his tune up was the Mesa Half Marathon, which is a 200ft net downhill course and he ran 1:01:19 -- not too different profile-adjusted than today.

Interestingly, that 59:47 near AR that he ran in Prague was a tune-up for the 2018 Boston marathon...which he DNF'd.

A thread on this family dynamic would be far more interesting than anything else on this thread

I think Rupp is done and he knows it. He's doing what most of us would do and giving the Trials one last shot because why the hell not? Question not being asked is if he actually finishes the Trials when the podium becomes out of reach. That doesn't feel like quite the proper send off with someone who's had the career he has. Next race we see him at he's doing color in the booth or following the lead men's pack. Thanks for the memories.