Are you a high schooler? The 600 is an event competed at the Big 10 meet. It is tracked in TFRRs. It is not competed in the SEC. You can click on the 2023 performance list for the B10 but there isn't one for the SEC.
Two performances being equivalent doesn't mean an athlete should be expected to run the equivalent time in both events. Presumably, most high school athletes running 1:17s are not equally suited to the 800m as they may be coming from a long-sprinter background.
I think it's hard to argue that a 600m on a flat indoor track is a true indoor race in this context, as indoor has historically described performances on 200m or shorter tracks. I have no idea how the physics of tighter turns impact performances, but as a rough equivalent for the 300m track you could maybe split the difference between the indoor and outdoor equivalent. Call it 1:47.85
The 1:17.49 indoor for 600m = 1:46.92 800m outdoor per IAAF points table.
This is consistent with mile split.
Hence his 600m is a big improvement over last year and nearly on par with his HS 800, performances.
Yes a mid 1:17 600m time is in line with a 1:47 to high 1:46 800m capability. Runners at that level are great. He's young and has very good potential to run faster.
1:17.5 on flat track is pretty decent for mid January. with the little improvement in his speed you have to assume his strength side has gotten a lot better and will show in the 8. I expect 1:45 or lower by outdoor championships
Gotta split 1:17 through 600 if you wanna run a 1:45 800
You are not grasping the facts. People run 300s and 500s and 600s and 1000s and all sorts of odd events at early season meets. They aren't NCAA events. Look at TFRRS to see the list of qualifying events. Look at the list for a conference and you will see its events. To do an equivalency conversion, you need an equivalent group of athletes competing in both events.
Imagine in your state that they do the 1600 in high school. Thousands of kids run it. To see the equivalent 800 times would be reasonable to compare equal rankings. 8th best 800 is equivalent to 8th best 1600. Let's say a dozen kids run a mile during the season and 8th best is 4:25 of all of them while the 8th best 1600 in the state is 4:15. Thise don't become equivalent.
I used the B10 as a way to compare 600 and 800 equivalence. 8th best in both events are roughly equivalent. Doing it for the SEC doesn't work.
Yes a mid 1:17 600m time is in line with a 1:47 to high 1:46 800m capability. Runners at that level are great. He's young and has very good potential to run faster.
1:17.5 on flat track is pretty decent for mid January. with the little improvement in his speed you have to assume his strength side has gotten a lot better and will show in the 8. I expect 1:45 or lower by outdoor championships
Gotta split 1:17 through 600 if you wanna run a 1:45 800
Only is you can only close in 28 secs for the final 200m (1:52 800m pace)
Two performances being equivalent doesn't mean an athlete should be expected to run the equivalent time in both events. Presumably, most high school athletes running 1:17s are not equally suited to the 800m as they may be coming from a long-sprinter background.
I think it's hard to argue that a 600m on a flat indoor track is a true indoor race in this context, as indoor has historically described performances on 200m or shorter tracks. I have no idea how the physics of tighter turns impact performances, but as a rough equivalent for the 300m track you could maybe split the difference between the indoor and outdoor equivalent. Call it 1:47.85
The 1:17.49 indoor for 600m = 1:46.92 800m outdoor per IAAF points table.
This is consistent with mile split.
Hence his 600m is a big improvement over last year and nearly on par with his HS 800, performances.
When I originally saw the result, I thought 1:47 too. But it’s a big 300 meter track, so I think it’s closer to a 1:48.5 +/- a few tenths. Still really good.
He split 47.4 on as the 3rd leg of Ole Miss 4x4 and was the best leg of the whole race
this is good considering he was 46 high and prob averaged 47.0-47.2 as a senior in hs. 47.4 on an indoor track thats not a fast banked one is prob worth 46 high relay split on a banked track or outdoor track. not too bad to have say 47 low and 1:17 in early jan
Made what up? We use world athletics score tables to compare performances. You are free to look up the times but it seems like you have no knowledge about college running or what events are competed or that TFRRs is the system used by the NCAA.
I am open to any 600 - 800 comparison you have. Only a few conferences run the 600. The Big 10 is the highest profile conference that runs it.
I wouldn't be too worried for him. Nothing to indicate anything special, nothing to indicate that he sucks. He beat a 47.2 400m guy and a 1:48.0 800m guy. Like other people have mentioned, except for a few conferences meets, the 600m is pretty irrelevant and few people know how to run it properly. Quincy Wilson is also pretty special as far as HS athletes go, might go down as the alltime greatest HS athlete if his progression keeps going steady. He just ran a 61 500m for #2 alltime HS.
I'm a fan of conversion calculators, but they need to be used thoughtfully. A 1:17 could convert to 1:49 for a sprinter running 20 mpw. We'll see what kind of 800 shape he's in soon enough. I'm guessing he's where he wants to be right now.
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