time to reclaim the prefix "trans" from this circus. We don't have to call someone "trans" as if they really did cross over from one to the other. They did not.
I nominate "wannabe" for a term of truth. Wannabe woman.
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What happened to the one year of testosterone reatment if this swimmer was in the guys races last year
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stop the word warping already wrote:
time to reclaim the prefix "trans" from this circus. We don't have to call someone "trans" as if they really did cross over from one to the other. They did not.
I nominate "wannabe" for a term of truth. Wannabe woman.
But then we would likely have to call you wannabe man because to me you don’t sound like a real man.
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Ncaa Rules wrote:
What happened to the one year of testosterone reatment if this swimmer was in the guys races last year
This swimmer was probably already on hormone replacement therapy during the last season.
27.12 in 50 Fly last season. (PB from 2020 is 25.25)
2:02.31 in 200Y Fr last season. (PB from 2020 is 1:48.04.)
2:10.66 in 200Y IM last season. (PB from 2019 is 2:03.38.)
4:53.81 in 400Y IM last season. (PB from 2018 is 4:27.55)
5:39.42 in 500Y Fr last season. (PB from 2020 is 4:51.19.)
If you look at the graph, there is a sharp drop in performance from 2020 to 2021.
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If you experienced puberty as a male you have an advantage over those that experienced puberty as a female. Hence 2 separate divisions. If you want to change from one to the other than we need 2 more separate divisions. If prepuberty than it is mind control.
The Jews say there are like 8 genders in the zohar or something.
Sumerians had trans professional mourners. TRans people have always existed, but had their own unique role separate from most of society, yet still accepted.
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Should be in the special division, which already exists.
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Or “not”. Gets the truth across
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He*
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Kvothe wrote:
wokeness run amok wrote:
It's unfair because males have massive advantages over women in sport. This is shaping up to be Lia Thomas part 2.
How long until recruiting trans athletes becomes a part of coaches' strategies. As a coach, picking up these athletes for scholarship may benefit team rankings more than even recruiting international athletes.
Never until the rules change. You might want to look into the subject before posting your drivel.
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Only in America, the wokeness is just crazy.
I pretended I was a superhero when I was 5. If you want to pretend to be a woman no one is stopping you in your own house, but stick to the right category or stop competing.
I seriously don’t understand how any woman who has ever competed in sport is okay with this?
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cramister wrote:
She's been on hormones for the last three years and has been waiting to be cleared. The whole team is in support of her too. Fox News scumbags writing some hate p*rn about this regular college student is ludicrous.
You want a real read at what the athletes think then read this
Especially this quote here
"The most scrutinized regulation is the one that states trans women cannot join any collegiate women’s swim team unless a blood test indicates their testosterone level in serum is below 10 nmol/L.
This is based on guidelines released by the International Olympic Committee (IOC) in 2015. In 2021, the IOC released revised guidelines that eliminated testosterone thresholds and gave the governing body of each sport freedom to create their own regulations.
“At the time the 10 nanomoles per liter was set because we thought that was the lower level for men. We know now that they go down to seven and women can be higher as well. Agreeing on another number is almost impossible and possibly irrelevant. You can debate that endlessly,” Dr. Richard Budgett, the IOC’s medical and science director, said in an interview with The Guardian.
“I think the threat to women’s sport has probably been overstated,” he continued, and stressed that governing bodies should allow as many women as possible to compete and acknowledge “trans women are women.”"If the top IOC officials can admit that this fear is overblown and there isn't a great way to define testosterone limits for this stuff then it should be taken at face value from the top people in sport.
People hate trans women in the spotlight even if they've done all the needed things to compete at this level which the state and the sport demanded they do. For three years she competed in the men's division following these rules and now according to the rules she can compete with women. If that isn't fair and following the rules, I don't know what is.
you are a complete moron. this isn't harrison bergeron. you can't just force ppl to take performance decreasing drugs and call it fair. scumbag
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Just Another Hobby Jogger wrote:
Ncaa Rules wrote:
What happened to the one year of testosterone reatment if this swimmer was in the guys races last year
This swimmer was probably already on hormone replacement therapy during the last season.
27.12 in 50 Fly last season. (PB from 2020 is 25.25)
2:02.31 in 200Y Fr last season. (PB from 2020 is 1:48.04.)
2:10.66 in 200Y IM last season. (PB from 2019 is 2:03.38.)
4:53.81 in 400Y IM last season. (PB from 2018 is 4:27.55)
5:39.42 in 500Y Fr last season. (PB from 2020 is 4:51.19.)
If you look at the graph, there is a sharp drop in performance from 2020 to 2021.
WHO GIVES A SH!T - it's still completely unfair which you know.
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oh for f*ck's sake. She set the Ramapo College women's record in the 100 yard fly with a 57.22. The NCAA women's A cut is 50.69, the B cut is 53.63. Why do you guys care about this swimmer?????
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you are extremely stupid lol. FU wrote:
Just Another Hobby Jogger wrote:
This swimmer was probably already on hormone replacement therapy during the last season.
27.12 in 50 Fly last season. (PB from 2020 is 25.25)
2:02.31 in 200Y Fr last season. (PB from 2020 is 1:48.04.)
2:10.66 in 200Y IM last season. (PB from 2019 is 2:03.38.)
4:53.81 in 400Y IM last season. (PB from 2018 is 4:27.55)
5:39.42 in 500Y Fr last season. (PB from 2020 is 4:51.19.)
If you look at the graph, there is a sharp drop in performance from 2020 to 2021.
WHO GIVES A SH!T - it's still completely unfair which you know.
The poster he responded to cared enough to ask the question.
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dkny64 wrote:
oh for f*ck's sake. She set the Ramapo College women's record in the 100 yard fly with a 57.22. The NCAA women's A cut is 50.69, the B cut is 53.63. Why do you guys care about this swimmer?????
Ramapo is a D3 school. The A standard is 52.92 and the B standard is 56.29.
More importantly, 57.61 won the 100 fly in last year's Metropolitan Collegiate Championship. So someone could be pushed out of the conference title. (And almost certainly someone will lose the podium position, and someone else will lose her place in the A final.)
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wokeness run amok wrote:
Discus. This is absolutely insane.I went to the team website to look at the season best times. Those are some insanely slow times. Insanely slow. I mean bad high school age slow. Otoh, their top men's xc runner did go 26-low. :)
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cramister wrote:
Read the damn article instead of hate downvoting, you got IOC officials saying this really isn't a big issue but you listen to some news channel pundit talk about it instead. Go out into the real world and actually meet people who are different from you.
According to you, opposition to a male competing as a female is HATE.
According to you, downvoting a comment supporting a male competing as a female is HATE.
Has it ever occurred to you that most folks do not accept that a male's identifying as a female qualifies him for female prerogatives?
Accusations of hatred are so overdone.
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Libbyboy wrote:
So it is a version of lite porn for you? I think I am getting a better grasp of this now.
I suspected that once you related this thread to porn, you would better understand it.
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Libbyboy wrote:
stop the word warping already wrote:
time to reclaim the prefix "trans" from this circus. We don't have to call someone "trans" as if they really did cross over from one to the other. They did not.
I nominate "wannabe" for a term of truth. Wannabe woman.
But then we would likely have to call you wannabe man because to me you don’t sound like a real man.
"[W]e?" Speak for yourself. Most here disagree strongly with your pronouncements, especially about what qualifies as manhood.
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