College coaches couldn’t care less about XC times when they’re recruiting. They want to see track times and they want to see how runners do vs other runners in the same race and on the same course.
Hmmm, imagine if there were a software algorithm that could sift through all of the race data and agglomerate and normalize results across different courses.
College coaches still wouldn't pay a lot of attention to that when recruiting athletes. There are too many variables in XC. They want to see John Doe's & Joe Shmoe's track times and they want to see the result of John Doe racing against Joe Shmoe in the same race.
Hmmm, imagine if there were a software algorithm that could sift through all of the race data and agglomerate and normalize results across different courses.
College coaches still wouldn't pay a lot of attention to that when recruiting athletes. There are too many variables in XC. They want to see John Doe's & Joe Shmoe's track times and they want to see the result of John Doe racing against Joe Shmoe in the same race.
Expecting high school kids to have raced each other on the same course is ridiculous. I’m referring to the vast majority that eventually run in the NCAA (and not the relatively few le creme at the pinnacle.)
You are completely incorrect about that. You are stating that college coaches don't care if a junior is undefeated on the year winning large invitational, winning state, winning NXR, and winning their Footlocker Regional. They then lose nationals to just a handful of guys, a few who they hadn't faced, and one or two who they had beaten at regionals. They then get injured during track. They then start senior year undefeated and sign a large scholarship in the fall when though their track times are only 4:25/9:25 from sophomore year.
My team ran many races this year that we wheeled. The courses were nearly always accurate while the splits were nearly always in the incorrect spots.
Are you oblivious to what these results showed? 37 of the top 74 runners ran both the SEC championship and the south regional. They averaged 74 seconds faster at the regional, with a range of 38 to 125. Another 11 ran the ACC championship and the south regional. They averaged 76 seconds faster at the regional, with a range of 56 to 102.
So? The NCAA says it was a 6K race. The timing site says it was a 6K race. I realize that some things really bother people but this shouldn't bother anyone because it is XC. The selection show is today. I guess you expect the region to be disqualified.
Is it possible for there to be any GPS watch data available, maybe somewhere on STRAVA? (I don’t have STRAVA.)
Yup. About 5.7km on average.
That sounds more correct. People have been posting on youtube that gps showed a short course. I mean... it doesn't take gps to know that though. Allyson Chuchill ran 18:37 for example.
So? The NCAA says it was a 6K race. The timing site says it was a 6K race. I realize that some things really bother people but this shouldn't bother anyone because it is XC. The selection show is today. I guess you expect the region to be disqualified.
So? you are the one who seems to be insisting the course was actually 6K, and you seem to be in the minority holding that opinion.
My team ran many races this year that we wheeled. The courses were nearly always accurate while the splits were nearly always in the incorrect spots.
Are you oblivious to what these results showed? 37 of the top 74 runners ran both the SEC championship and the south regional. They averaged 74 seconds faster at the regional, with a range of 38 to 125. Another 11 ran the ACC championship and the south regional. They averaged 76 seconds faster at the regional, with a range of 56 to 102.
Not saying the course was accurate, but It is not atypical of runners at Regionals to be saving something for Natty’s which is eight days later.
Are you oblivious to what these results showed? 37 of the top 74 runners ran both the SEC championship and the south regional. They averaged 74 seconds faster at the regional, with a range of 38 to 125. Another 11 ran the ACC championship and the south regional. They averaged 76 seconds faster at the regional, with a range of 56 to 102.
Not saying the course was accurate, but It is not atypical of runners at Regionals to be saving something for Natty’s which is eight days later.
Just to chime in: Engineer here. Metrology 101. 6km does not suggest 6000 +-1m, it suggests 6 +-1. It's right in the name. And that is appropriate because measurement with a wheel is not good for grass and sand. What is good method? Well it could be measured more accurately with some other method like chains but nobody (who is sensible) cares, because factors like turns, hills, bad footing, and changes in footing due to moisture and pounding by previous runners, mean that you cannot compare times from one course to another even if you know they are the same length, and maybe not even on the same course from one day to another.
What those standardized times really indicate is that the field is peaking for regionals (and nationals in cases of those likely to qualify) and so the difference between her and the field is decreasing, since she was just cruising up in front and didn't even see the Alabama runners closing at the end. She has plenty more in the tank for nationals.
What those standardized times really indicate is that the field is peaking for regionals (and nationals in cases of those likely to qualify) and so the difference between her and the field is decreasing, since she was just cruising up in front and didn't even see the Alabama runners closing at the end. She has plenty more in the tank for nationals.
Looked like Vaporfly, not Pegasus. Why would she even train in Pegasus when she can get free Vaporfly?
Would you choose VF’s for a cross-country race on a wet (from dew) course? They may not be as stressful to the feet/calves as spikes, but unless the VF’s were modified with a spike-plate, the traction would be less than optimal.
Would you choose VF’s for a cross-country race on a wet (from dew) course? They may not be as stressful to the feet/calves as spikes, but unless the VF’s were modified with a spike-plate, the traction would be less than optimal.
I assumed it was dew, but maybe also from sprinklers?